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Why is mumsnet so sexist?

324 replies

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 10:41

Been on here a few months, and while it’s nice to see women sticking up for woman, it’s crazy how sexist some people are on here. I’ve seen threads telling a women to leave her partners name off the BC as revenge because he’s cheated, I’ve seen posts saying “not surprised about huw Edward’s, no men can control themselves” and other numerous anti male threads and posts.

im a female for reference.

curious to see peoples opinions

YABU- it’s not constantly sexist on here
YANBU- it is constantly sexist on here

OP posts:
LittleGreenDragons · 23/09/2024 14:19

DickEmery · 23/09/2024 14:12

I'm glad I'm a woman who only has to worry about rape and murder. If I was a man, people might laugh at my dressing gown 😱😱😱

What's that saying?

"men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them".

soberholic · 23/09/2024 14:21

LittleGreenDragons · 23/09/2024 14:13

Male family annihilators are typically driven by loss of control, including financial crises, separation or divorce, and may demonstrate evidence for domestic violence, while for women perpetrators, battery, abuse or mental illness is more common
Birmingham City University
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familicide

There are others but it is common knowledge. I think a lot of the newspapers referenced this fact around the time that man killed his head teacher wife and children.

What's a family annihilator?

poppyzbrite4 · 23/09/2024 14:22

soberholic · 23/09/2024 14:21

What's a family annihilator?

Someone who kills their whole family.

PresTud · 23/09/2024 14:28

I don’t know if I am lucky or not, but I am married to a pretty decent man and we have pretty much true equality at home.

My 20-year-old son often says he feels embarrassed of being a man. He finds a lot of male behaviour disgusting and thinks that most of the problems in the world are perpetrated by men. Whilst being kind and considerate, he is also confident and feels that the world is a much easier place for men still.

‘Sexist’ comments on Mumsnet about men would not remotely bother him or his dad. They would probably agree with most of them.

I don’t think most decent men (who do exist of course) are at all upset by the kind of discussions on here criticising men. They are bright enough to be aware of the patriarchy and the benefits the world bestows upon them.

And a comment about the ‘dressing gown of doom’ would certainly not even register…

Mnetcurious · 23/09/2024 14:28

I think what you see here is skewed, because most of the time the men who are the subject of mumsnet posts, are problematic men. People don’t post about their husbands/partners to say that they’re supportive, faithful and considerate because those people are not looking for advice.

I’m often critical of the man in question when I respond to posts on here. However, almost all the men I know and have contact with in real life are decent guys who don’t behave in the ways that are so often portrayed on mumsnet. I’m not critical of those men.

DickEmery · 23/09/2024 14:30

LittleGreenDragons · 23/09/2024 14:19

What's that saying?

"men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them".

Exactly!

Ihopeithinkiknow · 23/09/2024 14:32

@Fluufer I didn't call anyone bitchy though did I? I have got eyes and can clearly see that some posts are bitchy and like I said we are free to be complete bitches if that's what we want to do, I was making the point that on here it seems to be women are saints and can do no wrong but if anybody even slightly defends a man in any way then they are the "cool girls" and just want male attention and are sexist against their own sex. I'm not a hypocrite at all

Sussurations · 23/09/2024 14:33

Isn’t it mind boggling when you realise that nearly all crime is committed by men? Imagine if there was a characteristic other than sex implicated in nearly all the murders, sexual offences and violent crimes in a society. Everyone would be trying to resolve, or at least mitigate, the issue. But this is the world we live in, one where female people are oppressed and devalued in various ways and varying levels of seriousness, from murder to severe state restrictions to discrimination in the workplace to plain old everyday sexism. When things improve for women, another hydra head of misogyny sprouts up to create a new difficulty. MN is not perfect but bloody hell it’s a fantastic resource in a men’s world and we’re lucky to have it.

AnonymousBleep · 23/09/2024 14:36

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/09/2024 11:43

It's off the scale at the moment.

Every single one of the threads trying to discuss men being absolute cretins - AS A SEX CLASS - whether it's Huw or the monster who allowed over 80 men to rape his wife, the NAMALTS, Not My Nigel and Women commit crimes too! brigade show up. It's relentless and so depressing.

MN is always going to attract MRAs because of the gender critical stuff. There are definitely a lot of them about.

ThisPresetIsSelected · 23/09/2024 14:37

@Sussurations I sometimes let my mind wonder and think about what society would be like if men (as a class of people) offended at the rate of women.

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 14:40

Hobnobswantshernameback · 23/09/2024 12:52

On here I only see well reasoned arguments with statistics to back them from the posters pointing out the issues with violence agains women
The NAMALT brigade wouldn't understand and intelligent argument if it smacked them in the face and tend to resort to making stuff up.
the difference is stark

People who vote YANBU likely don’t want to get into an argument and know their view is controversial. There is no pressure to reply on the thread itself.

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Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 14:40

Mnetcurious · 23/09/2024 14:28

I think what you see here is skewed, because most of the time the men who are the subject of mumsnet posts, are problematic men. People don’t post about their husbands/partners to say that they’re supportive, faithful and considerate because those people are not looking for advice.

I’m often critical of the man in question when I respond to posts on here. However, almost all the men I know and have contact with in real life are decent guys who don’t behave in the ways that are so often portrayed on mumsnet. I’m not critical of those men.

Edited

You’re correct, lots of the posts are about problematic men, it’s more the folk replying “all men are like this” who are the issue.

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LittleGreenDragons · 23/09/2024 14:41

Isn’t it mind boggling when you realise that nearly all crime is committed by men?

Try seeing it as a graphic just for prisons. Absolutely fecking frightening the difference.
https://data.justice.gov.uk/prisons

Why is mumsnet so sexist?
Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 14:41

ByFirmPoet · 23/09/2024 13:27

Yes, MN is sexist.

Most primarily male based forums are also.

Agreed, body building forum is very sexist

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TealTraybake · 23/09/2024 14:42

Sussurations · 23/09/2024 14:33

Isn’t it mind boggling when you realise that nearly all crime is committed by men? Imagine if there was a characteristic other than sex implicated in nearly all the murders, sexual offences and violent crimes in a society. Everyone would be trying to resolve, or at least mitigate, the issue. But this is the world we live in, one where female people are oppressed and devalued in various ways and varying levels of seriousness, from murder to severe state restrictions to discrimination in the workplace to plain old everyday sexism. When things improve for women, another hydra head of misogyny sprouts up to create a new difficulty. MN is not perfect but bloody hell it’s a fantastic resource in a men’s world and we’re lucky to have it.

‘When things improve for women, another hydra head of misogyny sprouts up to create a new difficulty’

💯

All we need to do lately is look at the extreme trans ideology - and its consequences. Women cease to exist as a group - as apparently, for some people (Labour Party I’m looking at you) the definition of women, includes men. 🤢

Fluufer · 23/09/2024 14:42

Ihopeithinkiknow · 23/09/2024 14:32

@Fluufer I didn't call anyone bitchy though did I? I have got eyes and can clearly see that some posts are bitchy and like I said we are free to be complete bitches if that's what we want to do, I was making the point that on here it seems to be women are saints and can do no wrong but if anybody even slightly defends a man in any way then they are the "cool girls" and just want male attention and are sexist against their own sex. I'm not a hypocrite at all

Oh right, you just said other women are being bitchy. That's totally not the same as saying they are bitches. "Bitch" is sexist BTW. Men don't get called "bitches" for expressing an opinion do they?

ThisPresetIsSelected · 23/09/2024 14:43

You’re correct, lots of the posts are about problematic men, it’s more the folk replying “all men are like this” who are the issue.

And you're saying you saw one poster say this? Would probably have been better to challenge that in the thread rather than take it literally, conclude "all posters are like this" and start a thread about it.

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 14:44

GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 23/09/2024 10:46

By ‘sexist’ do you mean why women call out misogyny?

Maybe the fact that 97% of murderers are men.

Come back when the majority of murderers are women and maybe we’ll take you seriously, JULIA.

Edited

Nearly 35% disagree with “we”, I am interested in their viewpoint too PUDDING

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BiologicalKitty · 23/09/2024 14:46

My first post on this thread has 52 likes so far. Interesting.

SidekickSylvia · 23/09/2024 14:51

Mnetcurious · 23/09/2024 14:28

I think what you see here is skewed, because most of the time the men who are the subject of mumsnet posts, are problematic men. People don’t post about their husbands/partners to say that they’re supportive, faithful and considerate because those people are not looking for advice.

I’m often critical of the man in question when I respond to posts on here. However, almost all the men I know and have contact with in real life are decent guys who don’t behave in the ways that are so often portrayed on mumsnet. I’m not critical of those men.

Edited

This is true, I'm married to a good'un and I don't think I say much about him on here because he doesn't give me any problems. Occasionally you'll see a thread asking for examples of how great your partner is, but not very often.

MsKatia · 23/09/2024 14:53

I don't agree that MN is sexist. Some individuals may be but on the whole I see women talking about their experiences with men. I've seen such a deterioration over recent years, generally in male attitudes and behaviour.
I think calling it sexist is just a reason to tell women to be quiet, because NAMALT/my DH would never xyz, etc. The problem is that there are so many problematic men and nothing can be done to change that seemingly. And of course we can't ask "the good ones" to step up because it's not their fault, certainly not their problem, so it continues.

turbonerd · 23/09/2024 14:54

Shakeoffyourchains · 23/09/2024 12:27

It's not sexist. It's just not male centric, which is apparently the crime of the century for some.

Exactly!
It centres women. And what a brilliant thing that is.

I wish I’d left my children’s father of the BC. Good lord, he’s fucked up their lives in innumerable ways. And would you believe it, the older two are young men now. Not misogynistic pricks like their Dad, might I add.

Megifer · 23/09/2024 14:56

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 14:40

You’re correct, lots of the posts are about problematic men, it’s more the folk replying “all men are like this” who are the issue.

So do you agree, mumsnet is not constantly sexist?

Brefugee · 23/09/2024 15:07

Lovefromjuliaxo · 23/09/2024 14:40

You’re correct, lots of the posts are about problematic men, it’s more the folk replying “all men are like this” who are the issue.

yes. So many replies saying "OFC IT'S ALL MEN"

Where are they? Because it is actually the contrary: the place is full of NAMALT and "not my nigel" and it is tediously exhausting

ErrolTheDragon · 23/09/2024 15:20

Yeah... one or two posters saying or implying it's all/most men, that means obviously the whole of Mumsnet is condemned as sexist.
I'd call it ironic but I'm not sure it's as subtle as that.

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