F**king hats in restaurants

[TomAllenWife]

Is my new irritation!!!!

Stayed at a naive hotel last night, at breakfast this morning, two separate men wearing caps for in the restaurant .

On holiday in the summer (boiling hot) men had to wear long trousers for dinner, no shorts, but you could turn up in a baseball cap 🤔

When did this become acceptable?
I resist the urge to knock it off their heads?
I don't know why it makes me so irrationally angry either (peri)

Is it just me?

I'll bet the poster doesn't know the origins either, though. Most people who spout this sort of thing have no understanding of the origins, it's just passed down.

It actually dates back to knights removing their helmets in the presence of ladies/royalty. It was about exposing vulnerability as a sign of trust. This explains why the continuing tradition (hats off in church, etc) did not apply to women as they didn't traditionally wear helmets.

Hats are not worn to protect the heads against weaponry usually. The flimsy cloth of a baseball cap is protection from the sun and that is it.

There might be some argument for the later logic of males removing hats because of potential dust transference. But 'hats off' for males as a mark of respect is firmly rooted in a practice which has no application to modern-day cap-wearers.

The “height of rudeness”? You really can’t think of anything ruder than wearing a hat indoors?

You’ve either had a very sheltered life or are severely lacking in imagination.

What the hell is a naïve restaurant? Is this some dreadful new tiktok thing like "demure"?

I also want to know what a naive hotel is. I don't think 'native' would fit here.

Manners. Someboy saying please and thank you doesnt necessarily impact your life, but we have to have some societal norms in this country.

It impacts me more than some random at a different table wearing a hat.

It was supposed to be a nice/naice hotel.

@TomAllenWife What is a naive hotel?

I agree with you, btw. Hats off indoors.

Edit: Ah, crossed post!

Jesus Christ I’ve heard it all now! Wearing a baseball cap doesn’t make you a pedophile, being a pedophile makes you a pedophile.

🙄

My 16 year old son has autism and he wears one of his many baseball caps everywhere. If there was a ban he just wouldn't go. I can't leave him on his own so that would mean none of us could go except for me and dh when an is at college.

I don’t think harking back to the days of physical assault is a positive thing tbh.

How is it disrespectful to wear a perfectly normal and inoffensive item of clothing anyway?

I get it’s not the best etiquette but “extremely rude” seems OTT. Are you sure your parents weren’t confusing hat wearing with mooning and letting out a rip roaring fart? Now that would be extremely rude.

OP I’d be unlikely to give a toss, but I admittedly have no decorum

My youngest son ( 24) wears a cap when we go out anywhere or for a meal because he is very anxious about his thinning hair.
I don’t really see what harm it does… it certainly doesn’t bother me. I’m not a hat wearer, myself.

Fortunately one isn’t compelled to adhere to a strangled archaic notion of etiquette
Hats inc baseball caps are permissible
Galloping prejudice about Gen Z and carnaptious demeanour is personification of bad manners and being uncouth

The OP is married to a man who thinks strip clubs are OK and she's cool with that.

She also thinks anyone who says they don't know anyone who uses cocaine is naive (and that was naive). Apparently cocaine use is a regular occurence in venues she goes to.

Anyone who isn't cool with their husbands going to strip clubs or who is concerned about cocaine use is a pearl clutcher.

Yeah, people used to be awful, especially to children - things are slowly improving though.

It always used to be the rule that you didn't wear hats indoors. I wonder when and why that changed. I'm quite in favour of some standards being adhered to, TBH.

And I promise you- I won't judge your son now whilst he is 16 or in 20 years time either whether or not he is or isn't visibly obviously disabled.
I live by the mantra- the people that matter don't mind and the people that mind don't matter!

Accept that we're not living in the prime of your generation anymore.

Culture is changing and hats are seemingly accepted in restaurants now.

You sound really silly getting so bothered about hats. 😂

Careful, you're debating with people that think being a paedophile is closer to being a paediatrician than a podiatrist.

C unit! I like it!

Jesus, that comment has already been deleted. Wtf is going on with this thread?

I see ya. Funny post, very clever