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F**king hats in restaurants

375 replies

TomAllenWife · 22/09/2024 13:15

Is my new irritation!!!!

Stayed at a naive hotel last night, at breakfast this morning, two separate men wearing caps for in the restaurant .

On holiday in the summer (boiling hot) men had to wear long trousers for dinner, no shorts, but you could turn up in a baseball cap 🤔

When did this become acceptable?
I resist the urge to knock it off their heads?
I don't know why it makes me so irrationally angry either (peri)

Is it just me?

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Thistooshallpass24 · 22/09/2024 15:58

I don't know we tend to only have picnics together....
Also the "dodgy" reference didn't mention where the baseball cap was worn only that it was dodgy, I didn't make the rules you'd have to ask the previous poster

DickEmery · 22/09/2024 16:00

International travel was once a refined and pleasant affair. Now it's all hair transplantation, hat-bothering and other naive buffet escapades. I blame Wayne Rooney.

TheFormidableMrsC · 22/09/2024 16:01

I wouldn't even notice and it wouldn't bother me either. How weird. I've worn a hat all day at a wedding. Am I supposed to take it off because we're sitting eating? You're being ridiculous.

sofski91 · 22/09/2024 16:01

I think it’s an American thing - whenever I see someone wearing a hat inside they’re nearly always American.
I think in Europe it’s considered rude to wear a hat inside, but to be fair I think that is probably an old fashioned view point. If you watch dramas set 50+ years ago you’ll notice people will always remove hats when they come inside.

Growlybear83 · 22/09/2024 16:02

This forum just gets more and more unpleasant. It may be very old fashioned and outdated nowadays, but in the UK it IS still considered to be bad manners for a man to wear a hat indoors. Just because people are ignorant about etiquette and manners and clearly can't be bothered to do the most basic research into why this has been the case for several centuries, it really does make some posters look very foolish with their rude and sarcastic comments.

RainintheDesert · 22/09/2024 16:04

A family member has had chemo in the past and wears a beanie or cap everywhere. Doesn't bother me.

According to all the costume dramas I consume, wearing a hat in a restaurant or cafe was normal at one time.

museumum · 22/09/2024 16:05

I thought men stopped removing hats indoors around the time women stopped wearing gloves and hats outdoors when it’s not cold.
I honestly don’t why this would bother you so much.

DickEmery · 22/09/2024 16:08

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BalmyLemons · 22/09/2024 16:08

CoffeeCantata · 22/09/2024 15:57

Nice!

Tell me - how can a bald man moult?

Either they're not totally bald which most are not, or their hair transplant fails. Sometimes it's best to wear a hat.

Marcellaa · 22/09/2024 16:16

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Peoplerepublicocs · 22/09/2024 16:16

You're not being unreasonable OP, if there's a dress code there's a dress code, if there isn't doesn't matter, They're clearly trying to get people to wear decent clothing so it makes a nice overall experience for everyone. I think it's really disappointing having made an effort to then turn up to venue and people are sat around like scruffs ,and yes I think wearing a fucking baseball cap to eat in a nice restaurant is scruffy 🤷. If you're eating in a fast food place or chain type place crack on, but sometimes people want to dress up and make an occasion, and it then feels deflating to be sat next to folks wearing really casual clothing I think it's rude tbh, and I think a lot of the time people know this and are doing a bit of a f u I'll wear what I want cos I can.

Putting · 22/09/2024 16:20

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Why would anyone care, though? Not as though someone else wearing a hat impacts on your life at all.

Also, I can’t see where OP says this was in the UK.

Josette77 · 22/09/2024 16:23

If I'm dressed up I'm only concerned with what I'm wearing.

I can't imagine why anyone would care what others are wearing.

The title of this thread is the only thing tacky here.

TwitchyJerk · 22/09/2024 16:23

cariadlet · 22/09/2024 13:40

A baseball cap would irritate me but only because I have an irrational hatred of them, especially when worn back to front instead of using the flat part to keep the sun out of your eyes (which is why baseball players wore them originally).

I wouldn't be bothered by anyone wearing other kinds of hats indoors unless they were particularly tall and blocking my view eg at the cinema or theatre.

I didn't know it could be considered rude. It seems a matter of etiquette rather than manners.

Etiquette = rules or social conventions prevalent in a particular society at a particular time.

Manners are ways of behaving that show consideration and thoughtfulness to others.

I have discovered the back of the cap does have a use! Keeping my hair out of the tap when I rinse mouth after brushing teeth!

Don't worry I quickly twist it back round when I am done!

butterpuffed · 22/09/2024 16:23

DappledThings · 22/09/2024 14:06

I think OP was going for the MN cliché of "naice" and got autocorrected

I thought perhaps she meant 'native' but all three of us could be wrong !

Marcellaa · 22/09/2024 16:27

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DickEmery · 22/09/2024 16:27

Why on earth was my comment about fedoras deleted? Surely everyone knows that fedora wearers are very very wrong people.

Flatulence · 22/09/2024 16:29

I don't like baseball caps, even worn during sport - I personally think they suit no one. However, unless the hotel is the Dorchester or similar I don't think I'd notice or care that a stranger was wearing a baseball cap.

Marcellaa · 22/09/2024 16:31

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Daisydaisydaizee · 22/09/2024 16:32

TomAllenWife · 22/09/2024 14:01

It's rude! It's scruffy!

And not appropriate indoors for a meal

I'm sick of everyone having an excuse for everything, DH had a hair transplant and still managed to eat in restaurants without a hat

You are too tough

Daisydaisydaizee · 22/09/2024 16:34

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Please and thank you are good manners, acknowledging others but someone wearing a baseball cap to hide baldness should not be considered ill mannered.

TwitchyJerk · 22/09/2024 16:36

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Beanies can be very good for ear protection! Especially following ear infection!

But I'd still opt of a hat with some kind of eye protection.

I guess the majority of people aren't wearing hats because they lower their neurological symptoms, allowing them to reenter the world for a short time after being seriously ill for 2 years, like in my case... but you never know.

P.s. every doctor says "take these meds", no doctor says "wear a hat!"

republicofjam · 22/09/2024 16:38

Growlybear83 · 22/09/2024 16:02

This forum just gets more and more unpleasant. It may be very old fashioned and outdated nowadays, but in the UK it IS still considered to be bad manners for a man to wear a hat indoors. Just because people are ignorant about etiquette and manners and clearly can't be bothered to do the most basic research into why this has been the case for several centuries, it really does make some posters look very foolish with their rude and sarcastic comments.

In fairness, the OP set the tone with her opening line.

MartinsSpareCalculator · 22/09/2024 16:39

No. I don't have any anger issues and generally speaking I'm enjoying the company of whoever I'm with rather than sitting judging other people's choice of clothing.

I also just don't care if someone wears a hat in a restaurant because I'm not affected by it in any way at all.

DickEmery · 22/09/2024 16:42

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Not if you're Santana.

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