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F**king hats in restaurants

375 replies

TomAllenWife · 22/09/2024 13:15

Is my new irritation!!!!

Stayed at a naive hotel last night, at breakfast this morning, two separate men wearing caps for in the restaurant .

On holiday in the summer (boiling hot) men had to wear long trousers for dinner, no shorts, but you could turn up in a baseball cap 🤔

When did this become acceptable?
I resist the urge to knock it off their heads?
I don't know why it makes me so irrationally angry either (peri)

Is it just me?

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Rosscameasdoody · 22/09/2024 15:39

TheShellBeach · 22/09/2024 14:05

What's a naive restaurant?

Similar to an inexperienced cafe I’d have thought.

DillDanding · 22/09/2024 15:39

One of my sons wears a baseball cap - a lot. Including bars and restaurants.

It has never occurred to me to think it’s impolite. He’d obv never do it somewhere fancy.

BalmyLemons · 22/09/2024 15:39

I'd rather a scruffy, entitled genZ in a hat than your bald husband moulting all over the buffet!

BunnyLake · 22/09/2024 15:39

cariadlet · 22/09/2024 15:26

Why is it rude?

Genuinely baffled that keeping a hat on when eating in a restaurant could be considered rude. How does it affect anyone else?

Letting kids run around a restaurant - rude
Talking loudly on your phone - rude
Spitting out your food - rude
Being obnoxious to serving staff - rude
Making audible comments about other diners - rude

Wearing a hat?????

It’s just a made up ‘rudeness’ and in reality is no more rude than wearing a blue top or a red skirt.

Persephonegoddess · 22/09/2024 15:39

How does it in anyway effect you? If a man needs to wear a hat/ head covering let him, same as if a woman needs to wear a head covering, it has nothing to do with you.
Read up on the mental anguish of young hair loss and let people do themselves and you do you!

WooleyMunky · 22/09/2024 15:41

Hatfishing?

A real thing apparently, and why I am so glad to be out of the dating nonsense...

ObelixtheGaul · 22/09/2024 15:42

TomAllenWife · 22/09/2024 14:01

It's rude! It's scruffy!

And not appropriate indoors for a meal

I'm sick of everyone having an excuse for everything, DH had a hair transplant and still managed to eat in restaurants without a hat

But why? Why is it 'rude'? Why is it 'scruffy'? Can you give us logical reasoning? Who decided it was rude and scruffy? For what reason?

The trouble with many of these things, and the reason they have fallen out of fashion is that nobody really understands the reasoning behind it. It simply becomes something of habit, of upbringing. And if you don't really know the reason why, beyond traditional social mores, then are you simply blindly clinging to something of no intrinsic value for the sake of some sort of baseless superiority?

BunnyLake · 22/09/2024 15:42

LoobyDoop2 · 22/09/2024 13:30

It bugs the hell out of me too, OP, but clearly we are ridiculously old fashioned and unreasonable.

Why does it bug you? Is it all headwear or just baseball caps?

JohnSt1 · 22/09/2024 15:43

It's nobody's business.

JessicassLavalier · 22/09/2024 15:43

@Thistooshallpass24

Surely that's quite a broad assumption?

It's not 'an assumption'. It's just a well known thing, a well known symbol. Everyone knows it! Older man + baseball cap= probably dodgy. So chosing to wear one is just dumb because it looks revolting because of those associations.

Or having an open shirt, gold medallions and a big cigar. We all know what that reminds us of.
Like going out in a flasher mac!

MaryofTeck · 22/09/2024 15:45

I think the late Diana, Princess of Wales was fond of a baseball cap.

Thistooshallpass24 · 22/09/2024 15:46

George Clooney is partial to a baseball cap, should Amal be worried? Just an example

Mercurial123 · 22/09/2024 15:47

Sorry - but the OP has asked for opinions and these are mine! 😃 I'm sure my much more traditional choices would wind other people up.

Most people don't care why would they? Unless like the OP, you're a bit (lot) uptight.

BunnyLake · 22/09/2024 15:47

JessicassLavalier · 22/09/2024 15:43

@Thistooshallpass24

Surely that's quite a broad assumption?

It's not 'an assumption'. It's just a well known thing, a well known symbol. Everyone knows it! Older man + baseball cap= probably dodgy. So chosing to wear one is just dumb because it looks revolting because of those associations.

Or having an open shirt, gold medallions and a big cigar. We all know what that reminds us of.
Like going out in a flasher mac!

But those things are not rude? When did wearing a gold medallion become rude rather than just not a great fashion statement?

Supposing the man was a good looking twenty something wearing a baseball cap? How does that fit in with your assumptions of baseball cap wearers?

Ethylred · 22/09/2024 15:47

You do realise, OP, that you have a choice over whether to feel irritated by something trivial?

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 22/09/2024 15:48

JessicassLavalier · 22/09/2024 15:43

@Thistooshallpass24

Surely that's quite a broad assumption?

It's not 'an assumption'. It's just a well known thing, a well known symbol. Everyone knows it! Older man + baseball cap= probably dodgy. So chosing to wear one is just dumb because it looks revolting because of those associations.

Or having an open shirt, gold medallions and a big cigar. We all know what that reminds us of.
Like going out in a flasher mac!

That's made me quite sad that you'd view my partner that way. He's early 30s and I'm a few years older than him. At what point will he be too old to wear a baseball cap before people like you make awful assumptions about him?!?!?!?!

Josephinesnapoleon · 22/09/2024 15:50

TomAllenWife · 22/09/2024 14:02

And neither of these young men were bald and I find it unlikely that both had severe scarring needing a hat

More likely they are scruffy entitled Gen Zers

Judgey much?

BunnyLake · 22/09/2024 15:50

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 22/09/2024 15:48

That's made me quite sad that you'd view my partner that way. He's early 30s and I'm a few years older than him. At what point will he be too old to wear a baseball cap before people like you make awful assumptions about him?!?!?!?!

That pp is spouting nonsense. “Everyone knows it”?

No they don’t. I’ve never once associated baseball caps with ‘dodgy’ older men. Some people do spout utter rubbish.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 22/09/2024 15:53

BunnyLake · 22/09/2024 15:50

That pp is spouting nonsense. “Everyone knows it”?

No they don’t. I’ve never once associated baseball caps with ‘dodgy’ older men. Some people do spout utter rubbish.

Thank you. It's funny the assumptions people have isn't it. Maybe it's not just the caps but just the whole thing put together with an air of the male equivalent of "mutton dressed as lamb" (awful phrase). Who knows!

AlisonWonderbra · 22/09/2024 15:54

I don't understand why anyone would care!

Thistooshallpass24 · 22/09/2024 15:54

Are Prince William and Prince Harry also "dodgy" ? both often pictured wearing baseball caps

Domainedor · 22/09/2024 15:56

JessicassLavalier · 22/09/2024 15:43

@Thistooshallpass24

Surely that's quite a broad assumption?

It's not 'an assumption'. It's just a well known thing, a well known symbol. Everyone knows it! Older man + baseball cap= probably dodgy. So chosing to wear one is just dumb because it looks revolting because of those associations.

Or having an open shirt, gold medallions and a big cigar. We all know what that reminds us of.
Like going out in a flasher mac!

You're mistaking "everyone knows it" with "it's a random thing I've just made up".

CoffeeCantata · 22/09/2024 15:57

BalmyLemons · 22/09/2024 15:39

I'd rather a scruffy, entitled genZ in a hat than your bald husband moulting all over the buffet!

Nice!

Tell me - how can a bald man moult?

CoffeeCantata · 22/09/2024 15:57

Thistooshallpass24 · 22/09/2024 15:54

Are Prince William and Prince Harry also "dodgy" ? both often pictured wearing baseball caps

Do they wear them in restaurants?