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Husband reactions in front of the kids

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FoxesSox · 15/09/2024 07:54

Bear with me…

My Husband swears a lot, we have an ongoing debate about it because it makes me so unhappy he constantly does this in front of the kids. We have a 6 month old baby and a 2 year old. The 2 year old is like a parrot, her language is amazing and she repeats everything back. Husband swears constantly in front of her. He is very uptight and reacts to everything, eg, a spec of ketchup on his top, a drop of a water on the floor, stubbing his toe, dropping something etc gets a “FK SAKE! SHT… Blcks” etc. Which is all the time. Often multiple times in a few minutes. he scraped his ankle last week and shouted “Fck a Cnt”. When I remind him please don’t swear in front of the kids he snaps and aggressively says things like “well I just cracked the fucking vase in the dishwasher etc” and explains why he swore. (Obviously there is always a reason and I’m not saying he is just shouting for no reason).

For context, we’ve had marriage problems lately and are in counselling and I have only just come home with the kids after staying at my parents house for 2 months because of the behaviour in front of the kids, arguing, and stress, mostly due to a work issue he has had which takes over every part of his life and no space for anything else (he’s been pushed out of his job and not been at work despite being paid still - no immediate financial worries). He made an effort for a few days but it seems to have gone straight back to how it was before.

Anyway, yesterday we had friends over they were late leaving and we were late putting the kids to bed. The bath was stressful as he kept walking to have a go at me for putting the blackout blind back up in the toddler room and that I would further damage the roller blind etc leaving the baby and Toddler in the bath (could still see them but not in grabbing distance). I said not to leave the kids to drown and he did go back but continued to shout at me through the bathroom door.

Bath ended and we did nappies and Pjamas etc and I left him to give toddler her milk and went up to the loft room to feed baby. A few minutes later he was screaming my name and swearing from the floor below “she’s being f*king sick! Projectile fking vomming! Get here now now! Where the fck are you”. I immediately unlatched baby and came downstairs with him, he’s just started crawling and can’t be left alone. Toddler sat in bed covered in sick and all over carpet. He continues “I needed you to get here fucking quicker” (it must have taken less than 25 seconds from shouting to me being stood there). My daughter starts crying. It makes me SO sad. All she needed was a cuddle, take her clothes off and put her back in the bath and kindness. Him shouting at me made her think she had done something wrong and caused a problem and she was crying at that, not because she had been sick. He started madly getting carpet cleaner and stuff and I said we needed to put the kids to bed first.

He says “I have always sworn, and you knew who I was before you married me. Swearing is an auto response and I can’t help it”. I say, he did lots of things before we were married, I wouldn’t expect him to do these things in front of our young children. He is very snobby (private school etc, often looks down on people and calls people “pikeys”). But surely swearing in front of your kids is rough and why doesn’t he care our daughter will pick this up and swear at nursery etc.

I guess my question is:

YANBU: This is unacceptable, he needs to stop swearing and reacting in front of the kids and if he doesn’t this will cause lasting damage and make daughter really insecure.

YABU: Everyone swears, it’s no big deal. He can’t help himself in stressful situations and give him a break.

OP posts:
Pinkchilli · 15/09/2024 09:32

As others have said swearing is not the issue. The aggression and shouting is. You kids are going to be nervous wrecks and walking on eggshells their whole lives. I’m guessing you are on edge all the time too. Time to consider a way out to prevent further impact on you & kids.

Dhama · 15/09/2024 09:35

Crap I hit the wrong button- sorry!

He’s awful, your poor children 😔

You’ve had excellent advice already but you need to get him to leave x

crackfoxy · 15/09/2024 09:35

I'm sorry but you need to leave this man. He sounds awful!!

outdamnedspots · 15/09/2024 09:36

DustyLee123 · 15/09/2024 07:56

I really don’t know why you went back. Is this what you want the kids growing up with?

This.

He sounds grim.

I'd leave him again, this time for good.

He's a terrible parent and role model too. Your poor kids.

MintyNew · 15/09/2024 09:37

You made very bad choices of having two young child so close in age, when you absolutely knew this about him.

You then sit and ask is this behaviour normal? You then leave him but go back. You need to make better choices as a mother- ones that are in your kids interest. This is an abusive environment that you are bringing them up in.

It sounds harsh, but you have a 2yr old and then another one so quickly after when you know what he's like. Just leave, instead of going back and forth trying to minimise his behaviour. Your poor poor kids.

Orangepolentacake · 15/09/2024 09:37

ThinWomansBrain · 15/09/2024 08:15

he was a foul mouthed twat before you decided to have children with him.

correction
he was a foul mouthed twat before you decided to have a child with him
he was still a foul mouthed twat in front of first child when you had a second child with him.

not helpful. This isn’t what OP needs to hear right now.

MintyNew · 15/09/2024 09:38

The words absolutely are the problem too. Young children using vulgar language because it's been normalised to them is neglectful parenting.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 15/09/2024 09:39

He’s awful OP. He’s aggressive and nasty, and this is probably why he’s being managed out of his job also. Please leave him, he’s making your life miserable and your kids will grow up to be jumpy and anxious.

MintyNew · 15/09/2024 09:39

@Orangepolentacake she absolutely does need to hear this and take some accountability for bringing her children into this environment when she had full knowledge of his behaviour.

BananaGrapeMelon · 15/09/2024 09:40

This is awful OP. Your poor DC Sad

Calamitousness · 15/09/2024 09:41

Life sounds miserable with him. He clearly can’t or won’t control his behaviour. Don’t waste your life living with that. Your kids will be miserable around that too.

2kidsnewstart · 15/09/2024 09:43

I pressed the wrong button.

I sometimes swear and my daughter loves nothing more than policing me. We all have a good laugh about it.

He is vile and talks to you horribly. You deserve much better. So do your kids. I'm sorry OP.

Orangepolentacake · 15/09/2024 09:44

MintyNew · 15/09/2024 09:39

@Orangepolentacake she absolutely does need to hear this and take some accountability for bringing her children into this environment when she had full knowledge of his behaviour.

When a woman seeks help because she’s being verbally abused, is asking “why did you have children with him?” Really the best response?

She should absolutely leave and protect them and herself from this poor excuse for a man however She can’t change the past. Her children are here. The focus should be on getting things in gear for leaving him, not berating her for having had the children in the first place.

CanYouHearThatNoise · 15/09/2024 09:45

The swearing is one thing, but the anger and aggression is worse

zeibesaffron · 15/09/2024 09:53

There are so many things here - with kindness why did you go back?

  • shouting at you/ the kids
  • not paying attention to their safety and comfort
  • making your DC probably feel much worse when she was poorly
  • the lack of respect to you (why can’t he deal with a vomiting child?!) whats wrong with him??
  • his tone and manner towards you and the kids
  • aggressive undertones

His swearing is excessive and unnecessary-
he is unkind and the environment in your house must be awful!

Please go back to your parents and leave him - he is a poor excuse of a man!!

GladBluePigeon · 15/09/2024 09:53

I work with small children and we would call social services on your family.

It’s not a good environment for your children. And it’s your responsibility to remove them from the situation, if their father can’t change.

Conniebygaslight · 15/09/2024 09:55

OP your DC are going to live their lives in constant survival mode with this man. They will undoubtedly struggle with anxiety and depression throughout their lives if you do not leave.

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 15/09/2024 09:55

He told you to 'get down here now' while you were in the middle of a feed to sort out (also his) sick child? Who the f does he think he is? F him and get you and the kids away from this useless angry a hole.

Riverhillhouse · 15/09/2024 09:56

Apart from the fact that he sounds like an abusive bully he sounds like a horrible person. The fact that he’s a snob, looking down on others & calling people ‘pikeys.’ Unfortunately entitled & arrogant behaviour often seems to go hand in hand with being privately educated. I agree he won’t change & the whole atmosphere at home sounds very stressful & damaging for your DC. What do your family think of him?

Lemonadeand · 15/09/2024 09:56

He sounds like an unpleasant man. Why couldn’t he have started to deal with toddler vomit on his own while you finished feeding the baby? You’re both parents.

RampantIvy · 15/09/2024 09:57

I don't understand the snobby attitude when he can't even control his potty mouth.

Ljcrow · 15/09/2024 09:59

What a complete bell end. Why do so many women have such very low standards? Demand better.

thereiscustardinthejamtart · 15/09/2024 10:00

MintyNew · 15/09/2024 09:38

The words absolutely are the problem too. Young children using vulgar language because it's been normalised to them is neglectful parenting.

On a scale of 1-10 of “problem”, the swearing is a 2, the aggression is a 9. Perspective is important.

user1471556818 · 15/09/2024 10:02

Swearing is the least of the problems with this nasty piece of work .
Sorry but I think he sounds awful .Horrible to you Horrible to your children .Is this the childhood you want for them scared of the mad man screaming at their mum then likely them .I actually think you're at risk of being hit very shortly.
Please really think about this

Clearinguptheclutter · 15/09/2024 10:04

The swearing is not good but it’s the anger and shouting directed at you which is a far bigger problem

Yabu to still be with him, frankly