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Husband reactions in front of the kids

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FoxesSox · 15/09/2024 07:54

Bear with me…

My Husband swears a lot, we have an ongoing debate about it because it makes me so unhappy he constantly does this in front of the kids. We have a 6 month old baby and a 2 year old. The 2 year old is like a parrot, her language is amazing and she repeats everything back. Husband swears constantly in front of her. He is very uptight and reacts to everything, eg, a spec of ketchup on his top, a drop of a water on the floor, stubbing his toe, dropping something etc gets a “FK SAKE! SHT… Blcks” etc. Which is all the time. Often multiple times in a few minutes. he scraped his ankle last week and shouted “Fck a Cnt”. When I remind him please don’t swear in front of the kids he snaps and aggressively says things like “well I just cracked the fucking vase in the dishwasher etc” and explains why he swore. (Obviously there is always a reason and I’m not saying he is just shouting for no reason).

For context, we’ve had marriage problems lately and are in counselling and I have only just come home with the kids after staying at my parents house for 2 months because of the behaviour in front of the kids, arguing, and stress, mostly due to a work issue he has had which takes over every part of his life and no space for anything else (he’s been pushed out of his job and not been at work despite being paid still - no immediate financial worries). He made an effort for a few days but it seems to have gone straight back to how it was before.

Anyway, yesterday we had friends over they were late leaving and we were late putting the kids to bed. The bath was stressful as he kept walking to have a go at me for putting the blackout blind back up in the toddler room and that I would further damage the roller blind etc leaving the baby and Toddler in the bath (could still see them but not in grabbing distance). I said not to leave the kids to drown and he did go back but continued to shout at me through the bathroom door.

Bath ended and we did nappies and Pjamas etc and I left him to give toddler her milk and went up to the loft room to feed baby. A few minutes later he was screaming my name and swearing from the floor below “she’s being f*king sick! Projectile fking vomming! Get here now now! Where the fck are you”. I immediately unlatched baby and came downstairs with him, he’s just started crawling and can’t be left alone. Toddler sat in bed covered in sick and all over carpet. He continues “I needed you to get here fucking quicker” (it must have taken less than 25 seconds from shouting to me being stood there). My daughter starts crying. It makes me SO sad. All she needed was a cuddle, take her clothes off and put her back in the bath and kindness. Him shouting at me made her think she had done something wrong and caused a problem and she was crying at that, not because she had been sick. He started madly getting carpet cleaner and stuff and I said we needed to put the kids to bed first.

He says “I have always sworn, and you knew who I was before you married me. Swearing is an auto response and I can’t help it”. I say, he did lots of things before we were married, I wouldn’t expect him to do these things in front of our young children. He is very snobby (private school etc, often looks down on people and calls people “pikeys”). But surely swearing in front of your kids is rough and why doesn’t he care our daughter will pick this up and swear at nursery etc.

I guess my question is:

YANBU: This is unacceptable, he needs to stop swearing and reacting in front of the kids and if he doesn’t this will cause lasting damage and make daughter really insecure.

YABU: Everyone swears, it’s no big deal. He can’t help himself in stressful situations and give him a break.

OP posts:
GabriellaMontez · 15/09/2024 10:07

How do you live with this man?

Why did you go back? I bet your children were happier at your mum's.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 15/09/2024 10:07

He sounds like a primitive simpleton.

GingerPirate · 15/09/2024 10:25

I was waiting for the "brilliant dad" stuff.
Leave this wanker.
Sorry.

Comtesse · 15/09/2024 10:30

He sounds like a nasty bad tempered oaf. It’s the aggression that’s the problem more than the vocabulary.

Blueberry40 · 15/09/2024 10:37

Wow. He sounds vile! What did you see in him? Am guessing he must have some redeeming qualities…..but YANBU. This man sounds like he is completely emotionally dysregulated, with no control over his reactions and he will damage your children emotionally.

The way he speaks to you sounds abusive and your children are watching this. Hold your boundaries and get them away from him. The fact that he doesn’t even accept that he has an issue is a huge red flag and gives you no scope for improvement in the relationship at all.

MistyFruitsAndMellowness · 15/09/2024 10:38

I agree with others here. The swearing isn't the issue. Even swearing in front of kids is not brilliant but also unlikely to cause any long term harm.

It's the way he is using swearing and the aggressive way he is speaking to you - and the kids (eventually).

Anyone that told me to 'get here fucking quicker' when I am upstairs bf their child is going to be very fucking (Grin) lucky to ever get the chance to speak to me again. It's that that is going to damage the children in the long term - either by being in the end of it themselves or by having such a poor relationship template to grow up with.

MistyFruitsAndMellowness · 15/09/2024 10:39

... and yes, I can see why his employer is 'pushing him out'. I wouldn't want to work with him either Sad

Sugarsugarahhoneyhoney · 15/09/2024 10:42

Your child was being sick and he's being aggressive about it that is wrong on so many levels.

Deadbeatex · 15/09/2024 10:44

Your post has really triggered me, please leave and don't allow unsupervised access with your children. This will only get worse.
I rarely post I usually just read/vote and I never go straight to ltb so please the fact I've posted shows how serious this is and how much worse it will get exposing your DC to this behaviour

Thepeopleversuswork · 15/09/2024 10:46

Thatsajokeright · 15/09/2024 07:57

I don't think the swearing is the issue. It's the aggression.

Exactly. It’s not the words he’s using particularly it’s the violence in the way he talks and the sense of entitlement that you will deal with everything and that he gets to tell you what to do.

The fact he is so horrified when his child vomits that he has to hand her back to you because heaven forbid he could clean up after and comfort his own daughter.

The fact that he doesn’t respect your entirely reasonable boundaries about behaviour.

The fact that he you orders you around like a servant.

Its a LTB from me. Theres no point to this man.

RoseGoldEagle · 15/09/2024 10:47

If you stay, your daughter will grow up believing it’s acceptable to be treated this way by a future partner, and your son could end up repeating the pattern with his own partner and kids. It doesn’t sound like your partner is able or willing to change.

Mrsm010918 · 15/09/2024 10:49

The swearing isn't the issue here, it's the way it's used.

I swear around my kids, probably a lot more than I should tbh, but my eldest is 6 and she knows never to repeat it, they are grown up words only.

But the aggression towards you and the overreacting to the situation will engrave itself on the kids memories and damage them.

Go back to your parents today.

Changeiscomingthisyear · 15/09/2024 10:50

Your and you’re children are victims of his abuse. I will say that again. He is absuing your children. Only you have the power here to stop your being abused.

fluffiphlox · 15/09/2024 10:52

Good grief. You need to ask? He sounds awful.

ChiliFiend · 15/09/2024 10:53

My husband swears in front of the kids - neither of us are very good at editing what comes out of our mouths in that respect. But he would never, ever act like yours did in those circumstances (a child who has just been sick in the bed) - his priority would be comforting the child. We have 3 children aged 10 and under and none of them have ever been fearful of him, not once, ever. He is the one they turn to when they are afraid or unwell, even over me. There's a difference between swearing and anger/aggression and I think you're asking the wrong question. Good luck xx

Lifeofthepartay · 15/09/2024 10:54

Sounds like a very stressful family life. Sorry you are going through this, and sorry people in the comments AND your husband are making it out as if it's your fault because "you knew what he was like". Occasionally swearing when we hurt ourselves when it's just adults in the house is not the same, also is not the swearing that is the issue, it is the anger and his inability to manage his emotions, seems the stress of work and parenthood have exacerbated the issue, so, yes sometimes people marry people that swear and people that slam doors when angry but the stresses of life exacerbate these behaviours and when they happen in front of kids and make everyone miserable then it's a problem. He needs to take accountability for his own emotions and stop just saying that's the way he is and you knew about it. You are in an impossible position, but in the end, he needs to put in the work to manage his emotions better, a divorce is of course an alternative but people commenting here advising her to LTB need to remember that he will still have access to the children, without the OP's presence, and I suspect she wouldn't be comfortable knowing the kids will be living in the chaotic environment he creates without her!

offyoujollywelltrot · 15/09/2024 11:12

Why the bloody hell did you go back?!

Divorce him.

Orangepolentacake · 15/09/2024 11:51

Conniebygaslight · 15/09/2024 09:55

OP your DC are going to live their lives in constant survival mode with this man. They will undoubtedly struggle with anxiety and depression throughout their lives if you do not leave.

This

MrsSkylerWhite · 15/09/2024 11:53

Do you want your children excluded because of their language?
He is not normal. Get your children away from him, whatever it takes.

Deipara · 15/09/2024 11:53

Thatsajokeright · 15/09/2024 07:57

I don't think the swearing is the issue. It's the aggression.

Agree.

Purplecatshopaholic · 15/09/2024 11:57

It’s the anger and how he treats you that unacceptable. You made a mistake going back. Leave, and make it permanent this time before it affects you and your kids even more than it already has.

Choochoo21 · 15/09/2024 11:59

He is not happy in this relationship.

You are not happy in this relationship.

The kids definitely aren’t happy being around this relationship.

So why are you still together?
Who exactly is this benefitting?

I cannot quote all of the PPs I agree with because there are just too many.

I would rather be single than allow my kids to have a shit childhood and be raised in an unhappy, abusive home.

I don’t understand how some parents can be so selfish that they’d put their love life before their own kids.
Whats worse is that neither your or DH are happy anyway, so your kids are suffering for absolutely no reason.

Ask him to leave and this time don’t get back together.

Ostagazuzulum · 15/09/2024 12:08

If you've got ability and means to do it now and if he thinks it's acceptable and won't listen to reason or try counselling to see why he's got such a short temper then I think get out. You'll always be on edge and the kids will resent him. I'm
Sorry you're living with this.

Does he do it in front of other people? Does he control himself for show but let's loose around you?

OrangeTeabags · 15/09/2024 12:21

As others have said, it's the aggression behind the swearing rather than the words themselves.

And there are many years of parenting ahead with situations that will be way more challenging and stressful than a toddler being sick - how is he going to deal with them?
It's not fair on your kids to expose them to this. I think this is definitely one of those times when looking to leave is the right thing to do.

Itiswhysofew · 15/09/2024 12:34

Tell him to fuck off out of the house and not come back until he's changed his ways.

Honestly, does he not see how at fault he is? A grown man behaving so hyperaggressively towards his wife and children, is abysmal.

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