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Husband reactions in front of the kids

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FoxesSox · 15/09/2024 07:54

Bear with me…

My Husband swears a lot, we have an ongoing debate about it because it makes me so unhappy he constantly does this in front of the kids. We have a 6 month old baby and a 2 year old. The 2 year old is like a parrot, her language is amazing and she repeats everything back. Husband swears constantly in front of her. He is very uptight and reacts to everything, eg, a spec of ketchup on his top, a drop of a water on the floor, stubbing his toe, dropping something etc gets a “FK SAKE! SHT… Blcks” etc. Which is all the time. Often multiple times in a few minutes. he scraped his ankle last week and shouted “Fck a Cnt”. When I remind him please don’t swear in front of the kids he snaps and aggressively says things like “well I just cracked the fucking vase in the dishwasher etc” and explains why he swore. (Obviously there is always a reason and I’m not saying he is just shouting for no reason).

For context, we’ve had marriage problems lately and are in counselling and I have only just come home with the kids after staying at my parents house for 2 months because of the behaviour in front of the kids, arguing, and stress, mostly due to a work issue he has had which takes over every part of his life and no space for anything else (he’s been pushed out of his job and not been at work despite being paid still - no immediate financial worries). He made an effort for a few days but it seems to have gone straight back to how it was before.

Anyway, yesterday we had friends over they were late leaving and we were late putting the kids to bed. The bath was stressful as he kept walking to have a go at me for putting the blackout blind back up in the toddler room and that I would further damage the roller blind etc leaving the baby and Toddler in the bath (could still see them but not in grabbing distance). I said not to leave the kids to drown and he did go back but continued to shout at me through the bathroom door.

Bath ended and we did nappies and Pjamas etc and I left him to give toddler her milk and went up to the loft room to feed baby. A few minutes later he was screaming my name and swearing from the floor below “she’s being f*king sick! Projectile fking vomming! Get here now now! Where the fck are you”. I immediately unlatched baby and came downstairs with him, he’s just started crawling and can’t be left alone. Toddler sat in bed covered in sick and all over carpet. He continues “I needed you to get here fucking quicker” (it must have taken less than 25 seconds from shouting to me being stood there). My daughter starts crying. It makes me SO sad. All she needed was a cuddle, take her clothes off and put her back in the bath and kindness. Him shouting at me made her think she had done something wrong and caused a problem and she was crying at that, not because she had been sick. He started madly getting carpet cleaner and stuff and I said we needed to put the kids to bed first.

He says “I have always sworn, and you knew who I was before you married me. Swearing is an auto response and I can’t help it”. I say, he did lots of things before we were married, I wouldn’t expect him to do these things in front of our young children. He is very snobby (private school etc, often looks down on people and calls people “pikeys”). But surely swearing in front of your kids is rough and why doesn’t he care our daughter will pick this up and swear at nursery etc.

I guess my question is:

YANBU: This is unacceptable, he needs to stop swearing and reacting in front of the kids and if he doesn’t this will cause lasting damage and make daughter really insecure.

YABU: Everyone swears, it’s no big deal. He can’t help himself in stressful situations and give him a break.

OP posts:
ClairDeLaLune · 15/09/2024 08:55

It’s not the swearing, it’s the aggression. Your poor DD she sounds terrified of him. Please don’t let her grow up in this environment, it’s abusive. Bin him OP.

Fingerscrossed2015 · 15/09/2024 08:55

I’m so sorry OP, but I agree with everyone else too. However please bear in mind that you are tied to this man for years, due to the kids, and it would be better for everyone if he gets proper help for his issues. I’m only saying this because you have kids together, not because he ‘deserves’ help.

If you agree that it’s time to go, then I would pack and leave when he’s not there and write him a letter explaining that you had really wanted it to work getting back together (if that’s true) but you have realised that he has a serious aggression problem and that, for the entire family’s sake, he needs to get professional anger management. It has now become undeniable that it is no longer healthy for you, the kids or even him to carry on as you are.

Explain that you will no longer put up with his outbursts. You are leaving him and will be starting divorce proceedings. You hope this is the wake up call he needs. If he is able to adddress his anger once and for all, you will happy to discuss access to the children; as you would love them to have a great relationship with their dad. However, at the moment, his aggression and volatility towards both you and the children is so damaging that he needs to take some time to work on himself before he damages his relationship with them beyond repair.

Tell him that you really hope he can take this letter in the spirit in which it is intended. You wish him well.

(Keep a copy of the letter, keep the counsellor but attend separately rather than together, and take care of your babies).

turkeymuffin · 15/09/2024 08:57

MSLRT · 15/09/2024 08:35

Pack your bags and go back to your mums. This man is a bully and a monster. How close is he to lashing out do you think? You need to put your children first and get them away from this abusive man.

This.

Your poor 2yo, moved back into her home & immediately shouted and sworn at for being sick. None of this is her fault and if you stay you will fuck yo her mental health for ever.

Pack up and leave. Today. For good this time.

betterangels · 15/09/2024 08:59

Everyone I know swears. The problem here is that you're married to an aggressive, angry man. Your children deserve better and so do you.

cerebuswannabe · 15/09/2024 08:59

I'm another one agreeing with he will never change. I'm 39 and my dad was and still is exactly like this. He doesn't get mad at his kids or grandchildren but with everything else around him. If my mum would have left him years I wouldn't be as anxious I am around a lot of things.

ladycarlotta · 15/09/2024 09:02

As the adult and the parent he is meant to be able to control his emotions and needs better than a toddler can, but he's already teaching her that she is the one who needs to modify her behaviour around him. To centre his needs and feelings before her own.

This is clearly not about swearing. He doesn't respect, value or like any of you as much as he does himself, so if he is not going to be the grown-up for these babies, it's down to you. Get him away from them. They do not deserve to grow up this way; they should not be seeing you treated this way. It's foul behaviour.

Lourdes12 · 15/09/2024 09:03

Why couldn’t he sort out the vomiting situation himself? Can’t believe you had to interrupt the breastfeeding to go and help a grown up man sort his child out

MagentaRavioli · 15/09/2024 09:03

OP, I think you know this already: you and your lovely dc deserve better than this. Using ‘I can’t help it’ to explain away unreasonable aggression and vile language is a classic - it puts partners and family members on eggshells, because they hate the behaviour so they do what they can to prevent it happening. Why should you and your dc have to tippy-toe around this selfish and volatile man?

Starlight7080 · 15/09/2024 09:07

Who says pikeys!?! That's awful . How was that not a major red flag before having kids.
He can't be that well educated if he can't grasp to use other words then swear words.
He sounds spoilt, entitled and an awful dad . Tell him to grow up .
You sound like you have been very patient with him

BellaBlythe · 15/09/2024 09:13

Apart from the unpleasantness of living through that behaviour. I would worry that his anger could get physical perhaps with you and perhaps with children. What happens when children are older and go through a phase of answering back? They might swear at him!

PattiSmithsPattis · 15/09/2024 09:14

You really don't want your child to be afraid of being sick surely? Especially at such a young age. That could lead to such bad outcomes 😞
Your husband is bully. Whether he was swearing or not, his attitude to you and his children is awful. If this is him 'trying' I can see nothing worth saving.
If it's possible to go back to your parents I would do that today.
Let him fester forever in his own misery, because people like that are seriously unhappy and expect everyone else to be too.

BigStevie · 15/09/2024 09:15

Your husband is a prick. No wonder he is being pushed out of his job. He's got no respect for you, you've just came back after 2 months away and he can't even be bothered trying to save his marriage! I'd run, fast. No way I'd put up with that shit.

Orangepolentacake · 15/09/2024 09:19

Sounds pretty unanimous that this man shouldn’t be around children because of his aggression, not taking responsibility for his own behaviour, and his abusive tendencies (tbh he’s already crossed the line by the way he speaks to you).

Pictures50 · 15/09/2024 09:20

This is a very dangerous man.
You are not wrong.
Get away from him and get those poor children away from them.
It is only a matter of time before he becomes physically abusive.
The way he speaks your children will repeat.
It will be reported.
This is not normal.
I am so sorry but you need to return to your parents and file for divorce.

Bearpawk · 15/09/2024 09:20

He's abusive. You need to get your kids out of there for good.
I swear a lot and I manage not to be aggressive and verbally abuse my family.

Purpleturtle46 · 15/09/2024 09:22

No chance I could put up with this or subject my children to being raised in an environment with so much aggression and anger.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 15/09/2024 09:24

He needs to leave. You gave him a chance, he didn’t take it. His behaviour towards your toddler when she was sick was aggressive, uncaring and borderline abusive.

Lurkingandlearning · 15/09/2024 09:27

He sounds like a lunatic.

He needed you in less than 25 seconds because he can’t care for his daughter??? No prizes for guessing why he got pushed out of his job.

Push him out of you and your children’s lives while he still has some money coming in for somewhere else to live

Werehalfwaythere · 15/09/2024 09:29

For me, it's not the swear words themselves that's particularly troublesome (although still inappropriate and crass), it's the aggression, negativity and disregard for everyone else in the house.

He sounds like a prick, who, despite thinking he's got it covered (evident through his disdain at others), is actually pretty thick. He can't see he's about to lose his wife and kids, despite counselling and his family having to vacate for 2 months due to his disgusting attitude and behaviour.

You amd your babies deserve more.

Beamur · 15/09/2024 09:30

betterangels · 15/09/2024 08:59

Everyone I know swears. The problem here is that you're married to an aggressive, angry man. Your children deserve better and so do you.

This. The anger is considerably more of a problem than swearing.

millymoo1202 · 15/09/2024 09:30

He sounds awful

Goldenretrieversball · 15/09/2024 09:31

He’s right, you knew he was like this when you married him.

SussexLass87 · 15/09/2024 09:31

You all deserve so much better than this OP.

rainbowstardrops · 15/09/2024 09:31

You've only just come back after TWO months at your parents. He's being pushed out of his job. He yelled at you, even though he knew you were feeding the baby and he swears in front of your little one. Depending on your living arrangements, I'd either kick him out or pack my bags.

Nazzywish · 15/09/2024 09:31

Walk back out OP. He isn't going to change and your kids deserve more. It'll be years of you putting up with this and then regretting it and the fact you've wasted time waiting for him to change.