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Should he have helped?

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Jelnotjel · 13/09/2024 12:10

I was unwell yesterday (Thursday) - in bed, sleeping on and off all day unwell.
At home with two young children.

Fiancé (who lives about 25 minutes away) helped in the day by choice rather than me asking. Great. Then he had to pick up his car late afternoon from a location about twenty minutes away. No problem.

I asked him to come back to help with the evening stuff for the kids. He refused.

He refused because he wanted to rest up for a new job starting on Monday and declined the offer of a bed and room to himself because he thought he might hear the children at five am, ignoring the fact he has all weekend to rest up. He could also have just left to go home after putting them to bed.

I feel like he should have helped in the evening since he was needed. Yes we made it through, no one died but the children got cold leftovers for dinner and i did fall asleep before them so it wasn't ideal, and he had no good reason not to help.

Aibu for thinking he should've helped out?

He's calling me a parasite now for being upset he didn't help.

OP posts:
HaddawayAndShite · 13/09/2024 14:34

Would be interesting to see when the kids came into this shitfuck of a situation..... Poor bairns

Conniebygaslight · 13/09/2024 14:39

You had me at ‘parasite’ who the hell thinks that’s in anyway acceptable! Then when I read he is your kids dad….I’m speechless.

pinkdelight · 13/09/2024 14:40

Yes we split up, he moved out, we got back together, we worked on things and set a date to go back to cohabitation rather than jumping in prematurely

But you've also said this:

We were looking to move in together next year when married.

So you set a date to go back to cohabitation after getting married??!!

Everything about this is deeply fucked up. The fact that he's an arsehole when you're ill is just the icing on the shit cake of this relationship. End it for good.

ChampagneLassie · 13/09/2024 14:43

sorry you’ve had so much flack @Jelnotjel i think people try to imagine the situation in order to feedback and your initial post one would have presumed new partner not kids dad, your situation makes sense when you explain with subsequent posts but you get rinsed in here for a drip feed. To your question I think he’s treating you and kids really badly. Even if he were not their dad I’d expect more from a fiancé. Jesus some of my friends would step up if I were sick and on my own with kids (I had this scenario when my partner was away for work). Please don’t marry this man. That’s aside from calling you a parasite. You deserve better. 💐💐

Toastghost · 13/09/2024 14:46

Oh boy don’t move in with him. He’ll be just as lazy but he’ll be underfoot and you’ll have to put up with his snoring.

BruFord · 13/09/2024 14:47

So he doesn't care about his children or you. You deserve far better than this, OP, please don't marry him.

I've been unwell this week and have one teenager at home. DH has been v. supportive, just as I am to him when he's unwell. That's what you should expect.

Therealjudgejudy · 13/09/2024 14:49

What a depressing read.

Dont marry him.

Raise your bar and set an example for your kids.

Btw, its not helping, its called being a parent 🙄

tuvamoodyson · 13/09/2024 14:50

Jelnotjel · 13/09/2024 12:32

To whoever asked what changed - he changed.
Regards housing situation I'm not sure how that's relevant to this particular issue.
Yes he pays maintenance.

Jeez!! What was he like before??

FatLarrysBanned · 13/09/2024 14:51
Unimpressed Viola Davis GIF

Both of you are half in and half out. Lucky that have the tax payer to subsidise you whilst you make a decision eh?

EI12 · 13/09/2024 14:51

Brainded · 13/09/2024 12:14

And you don’t live together why??

Probably benefits doooh, I only recently found out that lots of people do that for benefits.

Girlslikepearls · 13/09/2024 14:53

Regardless of you being unwell, what kind of relationship do they have with their father in all of this?

It appears he comes and goes and stays overnight as he pleases. A very part-time dad.

Is this giving your children any stability or reassurance that they have a dad who enjoys being with them?

It comes over as if you are a couple who have split up and are co-parenting (but only when it suits him.)

biscuitandcake · 13/09/2024 14:59

Jelnotjel · 13/09/2024 14:05

'overnight shag' was part of my response to those asking after how often he stays, not a summing up of our entire relationship.

Yes we split up, he moved out, we got back together, we worked on things and set a date to go back to cohabitation rather than jumping in prematurely (because as explained it was convenient to live apart and would've caused disruption not just to the finances and work situation but also the kids if it didn't work out). Mind-blowing, I know.

Anyways, thank you everyone for your input. Truly is appreciated and nice to see others agree I'm not being unreasonable re asking for help when ill!

I am sure others have pointed it out, but techically you ARE being unreasonable asking for help when you are ill. You shouldn't be thinking of it as "helping" at least not anymore than all the childcare you do as "helping" him. They are his children. You can't force him to be less useless, but equally you don't need to see it as "great" if he helps in the day [with his own children!] by choice. Otherwise your standards end up so low that any time he miraculously does the bare minimum, you will see it as somehow making up for all the times he is rubbish. Rather than the bare minimum.

biscuitandcake · 13/09/2024 15:00

What I mean is, he isn't "helping" he is being a parent - and he should always be doing that, not just when he feels like it.

ParrotPirouette · 13/09/2024 15:02

Parasite? LTB immediately, do not marry him. You are worth so much more, have some self respect and dump him now.

LittleGreenDragons · 13/09/2024 15:04

Jelnotjel · 13/09/2024 13:14

Yes, our finances are separate. There's no fraud occurring. It didn't work out before because we didn't communicate well.

He's calling me a parasite now for being upset he didn't help.

I think you will find he is communicating extremely well.

But are you listening?

LoftyPeachSnake · 13/09/2024 15:04

If anyone called me a parasite I wouldn't be calling them my fiance. Why on earth put up with someone who speaks to you that way.

Tengreenbottles2 · 13/09/2024 15:09

He called you a parasite because you asked him to look after HIS OWN children, when you were unwell.

He's not a fucking father, he's a waste of air.

Cherrysoup · 13/09/2024 15:11

Maintenance? Interesting.

A glimpse of your future, I reckon, where he dumps all the parenting on you because he's so important!

Rickrolypoly · 13/09/2024 15:12

Some people deserve the shitty people they end up with.

pottymouth40 · 13/09/2024 15:13

If my dh called me a parasite he’d be out the door, disgusting way to speak to the mother of his children.

And that’s before getting into the extremely unfair living/childcare arrangements.

As others have said: A FATHER LOOKING AFTER HIS OWN CHILDREN IS NOT “HELPING”! It’s the bare fucking minimum.

Why are you with him op? In what way is your life better with him than without him?

I bet the verbal abuse isn’t a one-off either is it?

huuskymam · 13/09/2024 15:14

Yanbu for expecting him to step up and parent his kids when you're sick.
Yabu for even thinking about marrying someone you lived with when it didn't work out and called you a parasite.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 13/09/2024 15:15

Birdseyetrifle · 13/09/2024 13:21

I know a fair few families that do this and it’s to claim benefits as a single parent. Partner lives ‘separately’ or just has bank account registered at another address and other parent claims benefits.

It’s a great way to bring your children up 🙄

Yep I know people who do this too and it winds me up a bit. Bad value for the taxpayer and exacerbates the social housing crisis where social housing is involved.

Doesn't necessarily mean that's what's going on here and we shouldn't assume.

On topic....

OP, he's no good. Don't marry him and keep the benefits you're entitled to since you're clearly a single parent anyway!

TheRavenSaid · 13/09/2024 15:16

Jelnotjel · 13/09/2024 12:19

We were looking to move in together next year when married. As for why we don't live together currently... We did before some years ago and it didn't work out. Going back didn't make sense financially or logistically with work.

So why are you getting married (you call him your fiance) and why would you want to marry a man who doesnt step up

TheRavenSaid · 13/09/2024 15:18

Jelnotjel · 13/09/2024 14:05

'overnight shag' was part of my response to those asking after how often he stays, not a summing up of our entire relationship.

Yes we split up, he moved out, we got back together, we worked on things and set a date to go back to cohabitation rather than jumping in prematurely (because as explained it was convenient to live apart and would've caused disruption not just to the finances and work situation but also the kids if it didn't work out). Mind-blowing, I know.

Anyways, thank you everyone for your input. Truly is appreciated and nice to see others agree I'm not being unreasonable re asking for help when ill!

You're not unreasonable, he is

You would be unreasonable if you marry him though

TheNavyQuail · 13/09/2024 15:20

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