To be so upset about the stories in Julie In Gender land?

[TorghunKhan]

I'm just staggered at the stories, staggered. I knew it was bad, but social workers treating good, caring parents like criminals, forcing the transition of gay kids, the damage to parents and their mental health, let alone the huge damage to children

Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/5XK1wTA4PTgvwLvDZcKwP9
Julie's substack link with all episodes https://substack.com/@juliebindel

it's hard to move on from this sort of thing, I am a parent, I can't believe most parents know how bad it is out there in our schools

The cognitive dissonance on this is off the scale.

So people KNOW this is horrifying to talk about, but also want everyone rot shut up about it so that they can continue to support it.

I think it's only just dawning on people that the so called 'good guys' got us here. And they don't want to think about their own complicity in supporting them. Or how it happened.

Its going to take a long time to unravel all this

YABU to post in aibu. You have dedicated board for this stuff.

What “stuff”? Child safeguarding?

Stop trying to silence women talking about harms to children. This needs to be widely talked about not confined to the ‘naughty corner’.

it affects all children.

Well, 15% of voters here clearly believe child safeguarding is actually being a bigot so…

And here comes the attempt to silence. Right on cue.

Why don't you want AIBU readers to see this? Are you anti child safeguarding or something? 🤔

What I said earlier, btw, this is you. This is what you're doing here ...

So people KNOW this is horrifying to talk about, but also want everyone to shut up about it so that they can continue to support it.

Not at all, I just think it's a bit silly to post it in AIBU just so all the same users who would respond to it on your dedicated board can do so 🥱

Why would child safeguarding be a silly topic for AIBU?

Also you find child safeguarding boring? What the hell is wrong with you?

Getting a serious issue regarding child safeguarding to a broader audience is a bit silly?

Oh do give over, many people are blissfully unaware of this harm to children.

Even if people don’t post they may read and, hopefully, listen to the podcast and become aware of the issue.

One thing that always strikes me posting on these kinds of topics are the likes that come from posters who are lurking. People are reading and engaging even if they aren't posting.

I don't support anything? Stop reaching FGS.
Op is not genuinely asking if she is BU about anything, she wants to discuss a topic that has a dedicated board so the rest of us can enjoy reading about cheeky fuckers and actually AIBUs.

Oh noes!!!

The nasty poster wanted to discuss children and their welfare on a parenting forum! How utterly vile - that topic should only ever be hidden away unless given permission by other posters to post on the AIBU board.

And oh noes!!!! Even worse!! Adult members of the forum lack the impulse control to scroll past posts they don’t want to read!

OP- you are SO very unreasonable.

(this is sarcasm)

‘This stuff’ - what is ‘this stuff’?

Please elaborate. Thanks.

There's someone asking for food/recipe help currently on AIBU. Are you going to hop over there to tell them there's a dedicated board for their post? In fact most AIBU can be slotted elsewhere.

What is it about child safeguarding you're against 🚩

Good Lordy it's going to take you forever to trawl AIBU for threads Which Don't Belong and instruct the OP of their mistake.

Or is it just concerns with safe guarding that you think need to be shoved back in the naughty corner?

No one is forcing you to read every thread on AIBU.

You know that of course.

So enough deflection cheers. Other people are interested in their children's safety.

“Your dedicated board”?

I’ve yet to see the dedicated child safeguarding guards g board. Can you show me please?

But thanks for perfectly demonstrating what we're talking about in terms of people having huge problems confronting this topic.

I too was deeply moved. Especially by the Brummie couple.

OP I’ve just listened to the first episode and found it deeply upsetting.

Like the families interviewed our daughter is autistic, when she was struggling with her mental health and sensory issues (she wore boys clothes & hair short) , a CAMHS mental heath nurse tried to explore ‘gender’ with her.

It never got as far as the situation those families found themselves in but my god , if you have a child needing mental health services and social work support the child is at rock bottom, putting gender ideas into the child’s head then saying the parents are the problem, well I don’t have words I can use on here without being banned, to describe how I feel about that.

Autistic girls are not boys ffs 😡

Where did I say I was against child safeguarding? 😂 You'll pull your arm reaching that far. It's just a bit that because you don't feel you get enough traffic on your dedicated board to post in AIBU just for you all to discuss amongst yourselves (with the usual arsey jumping on anyone and throwing assumptions at them too) boring!

I'll respond to what I like thanks and tell OP she is BU if I want.
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Those brave, brave parents in episode 2 who affirmed their daughter, who was fast tracked onto testosterone, then realised they'd made a mistake. So brave to be able to change tack and their daughter has now desisted and is much happier.

Awful to hear the guilt and blame they were heaping on themselves - they did what they did in the face of absolute onslaught from "professionals" telling them to affirm only. So glad to hear Julie encouraging them not to blame themselves (they always had their child's best interests at heart) and blame those who shouldn't have pushed their child down an ideologically driven pathway to harm with so little exploration of what was the root cause.

At one point the father says he hopes there's no long term damage. Him researching and acting as he did will have probably saved his daughter from some of the terrible risks long term female takers of testosterone experience.

It's really heartbreaking listening and something every parent should listen to because it could happen to any one of us.

Julie B finally allowing these voices - silenced for years - to be heard will hopefully protect many children from harm.

It comes across to me that men's kinks and fetishes have come to the fore and infiltrated society.

Men have been fighting to invade women's/girl's spaces, have their fetishes normalised and groom children. Society has largely gone along with this and brought into gender ideology and gaslighting.

Children have been harmed. Women have been deplatformed, ostracized, fired, arrested, lost deals and contracts and silenced.

Madness.