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to expect my dd 14 to act a little more mature and help out with newborn

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the3e7s · 08/09/2024 16:52

Just had a baby and of course really stressful husband has gone back to work and could use a bit more of a hand just with little things. Don't get me wrong I'm not expecting my dd to ever miss out on seeing her friends to help me or anything like that I just would like a bit more of a "mature attitude" and willingness to offer a hand with a few things if she's home. I do think she needs to grow up a little for example I needed something from the shop the other day but had to embarrassingly ask neighbour to get it as dd didn't want to go to supermarket on her own and she just constantly comments things like "that's disgusting" and walks the long way round the sofa to avoid coming close to me if I ask her to fetch me something and she comes in the room and I'm breastfeeding. I feel like having a right go at her and telling her to "grow up you are nearly 15 for gods sake"

OP posts:
FatmanandKnobbin · 08/09/2024 17:09

the3e7s · 08/09/2024 17:05

She's just started year 10, which yes the supermarket is a 5 minute walk and I think she does need to start taking some steps to go out of her comfort zone and learn how to buy something from a supermarket by yourself.

She doesn't know how to buy things at the shop herself?

Have you not been teaching her how to be independent?

But now you've had a baby you suddenly expected her to know how to do things?

stichguru · 08/09/2024 17:09

How much has her life changed as a result of her sibling? My child is only 11 and I'd frankly be annoyed if he wouldn't help out a bit if I needed, like nipping to get milk at the corner shop. However this would/should be reciprocated. For example if he needs help with homework or wants to tell/ask me something, I would make every effort to do it for him when HE wanted. How often is "mum I don't get this homework" or "mum, can you help me find X" reciprocated with "when baby has been changed" or "when I have finished this job"? Expect your daughter to make you wait in the same way.

rainbow1902 · 08/09/2024 17:10

You had a baby she didn't your the mum she's not.
My mum put so much responsibility on my eldest sister she grew up not wanting kids.
People shouldn't have kids if they are expecting their older ones to do more donky work.
Or even chip in with a new baby.
Sorry op baby is not her responsibility.

CherryValley5 · 08/09/2024 17:11

She’s 14. Your newborn, your choice to have him/her, your responsibility. End of.

You’ve completely uprooted her life and are expecting her to be happy and helpful about it?

the3e7s · 08/09/2024 17:11

cheezncrackers · 08/09/2024 17:00

You wanted to have another baby - I don't suppose she was consulted - so I'm afraid OP you need to suck it up. If you had no 14-year-old DD you'd have to do this stuff anyway, but YABU to expect her to pick up all the slack around the house. She's 14, her job right now is going to school, doing her homework and picking up after herself. She is a child too and she deserves to continue her childhood, whether or not her DM (parents?) have decided to have another child.

I don't expect her to "pickup" all the slack. Just the odd helping hand, I.e. do dishes or help with dinner

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lazyarse123 · 08/09/2024 17:11

kitsuneghost · 08/09/2024 17:06

No. Children are not there to do the donkey work because you chose to have another baby. Did you even ask her before getting pregnant.

Wtaf why would she ask permission? No wonder young people have no resilience. This thread is bonkers.

Username917778 · 08/09/2024 17:11

Assuming she was already (surely) helping with some chores then no, not unreasonable.

Even my 6 year old was able to fetch me a nappy or get me a glass of water if I was breastfeeding. Everyone in the household should be able to help and support each other where possible.

Synchronisedwitches · 08/09/2024 17:12

I was ready to say YABU from the title of the thread but from what you've actually put I think yanbu. It is ridiculous that at 14 she calls breastfeeding disgusting and it is ridiculous that she can't go to the local shop to get items for the household at her age.
These things aren't really 'helping with the newborn' which obviously she shouldn't be expected to do as it's her sibling not her child. But they are basic decency.
I have a baby abd a 9 yo son and he will happily fetch me things if I'm breastfeeding. He's not old enough to go to the shop by himself yet but he absolutely would do that. He's always had household chores to do as do all my children. If you live in a house you contribute in some way to the running of the house. Basic respect.
I don't expect my kids to look after their baby sibling but I do expect them to help in general if they are around abd able to. And I wouldn't tolerate being told breastfeeding was disgusting at all.

Purplecatshopaholic · 08/09/2024 17:12

Overtheatlantic · 08/09/2024 16:55

She’s a child and not there to help you with your newborn. Poor girl.

Exactly this. Good grief op, why should she help out with your child? She’s 14, and probably has a lot going on without having to deal with her mum having another child - she’s feeling pushed out, jealous and upset.

MrsDrDear · 08/09/2024 17:12

Surely she did things around the house before the baby came along? I was always running to the shop for my mum when I was that age. It was no big deal.

However, if she has been a princess up until now and had everything done for her then she's probably a bit put out.

HamSad · 08/09/2024 17:12

You should be encouraging her to take steps towards independence for her own sake and benefit, not just because you've chosen to have a baby. You could have gone yourself.

SwiftiesVSLestat · 08/09/2024 17:12

the3e7s · 08/09/2024 17:05

She's just started year 10, which yes the supermarket is a 5 minute walk and I think she does need to start taking some steps to go out of her comfort zone and learn how to buy something from a supermarket by yourself.

But You only think that now, because it benefits you and helps looking after your baby.

If that was something you wanted her to be able to do, you would have been working on it before, if she struggles.

needhelpwiththisplease · 08/09/2024 17:13

You put the baby in the pram and walk to the shop or get it delivered.
You don't ask your eldest child to start doing thing they haven't been expected to do before the baby arrived

Oceangreyscale · 08/09/2024 17:13

Overtheatlantic · 08/09/2024 17:08

That’s surely not most children’s experience

I'm not saying it's the thing to aim for but it's completely normal in London anyway for kids to be on the tube alone from the start of secondary school. My friends and I would go out to the shops, cinema, supermarket etc from about 12.
So it's not unreasonable to expect a 14yr old to go to the supermarket at all unless you've never introduced the idea to her, then it's on you.
My 9 yr old can go into a shop and buy something.
I'm confused by this idea that teenagers shouldn't have to help at home where they can and where it doesn't interfere overly with their lives.
I also can't quite believe that some think it's fine for her to voice disgust at breastfeeding. That's very rude and for me it would be unacceptable from anyone, let alone my daughter.

Newuser75 · 08/09/2024 17:13

Oceangreyscale · 08/09/2024 17:05

I actually do think it's fair to expect her to help by going to the shop or whatever.
I'm sure you help her with things all the time. I'd have little patience with a teenager embarrassed at the idea her parents have procreated again. But then I don't have a teenager myself so perhaps I'll adjust my thinking when I do.
But I expect my primary aged kids to help out and do what they can to make our household run as smoothly as possible.

I agree with this.
My kids help around the house and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect her to nip to the shops to pick k something up.

I'd ignore the comments about breast feeding. She is obviously uncomfortable about it.

No one is saying she needs to raise the baby but surely as a family everyone should muck in and help if they can?

Synchronisedwitches · 08/09/2024 17:13

I think you should change the title of the thread because people are voting YABU due to that. When you actually describe how your 14yo acts I think a lot more people would vote yanbu based on that.

the3e7s · 08/09/2024 17:13

Hoppinggreen · 08/09/2024 17:03

You chose to have a baby and she may not be too happy about it.
She shouldn't be rude but I think you are expecting too much from a teenager who is dealing with a big adjustment.
Where is her/babys Dad in all this?

Dad works full time

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Ilovelifeverymuch · 08/09/2024 17:13

Overtheatlantic · 08/09/2024 16:55

She’s a child and not there to help you with your newborn. Poor girl.

She's 14 she can helps round the house. Of course I'm not expecting that she does everything and overworked etc but can you please fetch that or go pick something from a nearby supermarket is now too much for a 14 year old?

RitaFires · 08/09/2024 17:14

My youngest sister was born when I was about the same age as your daughter. It took me a long time to warm up to her. I had guessed my Mum was pregnant long before I was told but didn't feel like I could confide in anyone about it, it was embarrassing at school to tell people as my parents had clearly not planned to have another baby and lots of comments were made.

The arrival of the new baby meant nobody had any time for me and I had to give up dance classes as nobody could give me a lift anymore. I absolutely felt pushed out and like an inconvenience. My mother has since apologised that my needs got overlooked and I did grow to love my sister but it was a really rough adjustment.

Miyagi99 · 08/09/2024 17:14

@JustFrustrated I agree, asking a 14 year old to go to the supermarket is not a big ask baby or no baby!

the3e7s · 08/09/2024 17:14

LessOfMe99 · 08/09/2024 17:03

She should not be expected to do more chores because you have had a baby. If they were pre existing chores/expectations then yes, but she should not be expected to suddenly do more.

She has never had to do any chores ever, now baby is here I expect a little contribution in terms of chores. Really too much ask?

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Josette77 · 08/09/2024 17:14

How old are your other kids?

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 08/09/2024 17:14

My assumption would be that’s she’s not happy you’ve had a baby and probably not happy that she’s now part of a blended family (assuming you are in a relationship with a man that’s not her father).

NeverDropYourMooncup · 08/09/2024 17:15

I disagree with the majority of posters - no child should be telling a woman that feeding her infant is disgusting. It's completely unacceptable to be making misogynistic comments like that.

PorridgeIsNotSlimmingTheWayIMakeIt · 08/09/2024 17:15

Oh god I was horrible at 14. When asked to help with housework, I couldn't see why I should bother. As far as I was concerned, it wasn't my job. I'd imagine she feels the same way about baby care. She'll be fine by the time she's 32 but at this age you probably can't expect her to suddenly grow up just because you could do with having a helpful adult around 😁

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