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Mil forcing dinner

403 replies

Pleeeeaaasehelp · 03/09/2024 15:50

I’ll make it brief. Mil has never liked me, never really tried to hide it even in front of the kids( constant rudeness and belittling). We don’t see her often as she lives abroad. She’s not your normal Gma, never Birthday or Xmas gifts! But every time we do see her someone ( usually more than one!) ends up in tears when she leaves.
Now the kids are all young adults they don’t want anything to do with her. They pretend phones aren’t working etc…. However that comes back on me.. I’ve turned them against her.
I really haven’t.
For 30 years I’ve put up with her emotional abuse.
Anyway…. She’s coming over, demanding a family meeting about how badly she is treated in this family.
I’ve finally decided I can’t face her anymore and I don’t want to go. I’ve spent 27 years saying to DH it’s only a week, it’s your mum etc…. ( He gave up years ago)
Aibu.
Go She’s old, you’ve put up with it for this long…..

Uanbu. Don't go, let shit hit the fan, but know you’ve been forced a death by a thousand cuts

OP posts:
NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 05:25

Nanny0gg · 03/09/2024 17:43

You have a DH problem

Just stick to your guns

And tell him you don't expect to see her in your home

The MIL is inside the husband's head and has been since he was born. The poor lad has a narcissist for a mother. Very difficult to stand up to.

I've seen it happening with a friend of mine. A very intelligent woman in thrall to her narcissist of a mother who manipulates and tries to control her.

The OP should stand her ground though.

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 05:27

Babychewtoy · 03/09/2024 17:43

“As it’s only one dinner it won’t matter that I’m not there, it will be nice for your mum to have you to herself” 😁

No, she should not say that because it's totally dishonest. More dishonesty is not going to help this situation.

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 05:28

WheresthesaladTheresthesalad · 03/09/2024 17:57

NC with father following almost 50 years of horrendous nariccistic behaviour. So I feel your & H's pain.
My young adult daughter said to me, "Why do you keep going to the buffet when you're the one on the menu?"
Quite. Game changing advice.
Blocked since then.

Protect your peace.
Do not attend this meal.
Do not engage further.
You've tried. She wants to be the 'winner' and the victim. No more.
Good luck.

Superb. And very pleased for you.

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 05:30

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 03/09/2024 17:58

Too late to move house I guess?

Are your kids still at home? Could you go stay somewhere for a couple of days so if does sit on the doorstep no one is coming home anyway? It's extreme measures but if she's going to turn up no matter what you say at least it gives you some control.

No it doesn't give her some control! You are suggesting that she leaves her home for a couple of days. Allowing herself to be manipulated into leaving her own home? Why on earth should she?
She should stay in her home, refuse to engage with the MIL and call the police if she batters the door.

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 05:34

Irridescantshimmmer · 03/09/2024 18:54

She may be trying to control you all through manipulation.

She may see herself as the head of the household, an old way of exerting control of the younger members of a family rather than her meeting you and your DH half way in a compromise.

Communicate with her, your DH should do this as he is her son and hopefully that may break the ice.

There is no ice to break. This woman will never ever change. There is no communication to be had, only more and more manipulation. You'll be suggesting family therapy next.

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 05:39

ICallPeopleDudeNow · 04/09/2024 04:41

High five to your daughter @Pleeeeaaasehelp !

Yes. It's unfortunate that hubs let her in, but given that he did I think that meeting went as well as it possibly could. You removed yourself from her presence, daughter left the house after telling granny "what for", and hubs raised his voice for the first time to her. Very good.

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 05:40

Maddy70 · 04/09/2024 04:54

Maybe she has realised and wants to amend her ways
Go if you think it may be constructive. But this is your Dhs issue

Ig he goes and wants your support then go

I probably would go as i do believe family is important and its a chance to reach a compromise. You are in different countries so you dont have to see her often and she is your husbands mother

I would bet half a crown that you have not read the whole of this thread.
This woman is incapable of mending her ways or compromising.

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 06:02

Asiama · 04/09/2024 09:50

OP I have a difficult mother who I went NC with 3 years ago, mainly to protect my children. So I get where you are.

I find it odd that you describe her coming to your house as "going to dinner". I thought you meant going to her hotel, a restaurant etc but actually she is coming to your house. It feels to me that you feel so passive and helpless in this that you don't even see your house as your home. You aren't "going to dinner", but she is coming to dinner to you uninvited. You need to mentally reclaim your house as YOUR home!

No, she instructed the OP or the OP's husband to make a reservation somewhere for dinner. But she also came round to their house to enact her usual behaviour. Two separate things.

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 06:05

Pleeeeaaasehelp · 04/09/2024 15:51

Ok, so it gets worse!
This morning she turns up at son’s work, he’s 20, and refused to leave until she spoke to him.
Management told her he’d ring later!!
He’s left through a back door and is now hiding out at a friends.
And my landline has been ringing all day. I’ve not picked up. I’m also now at a friends.
Hubby left at 6 am so I haven’t had a chance to speak to him yet.
Dd is also out, and finding this all hilarious, while I’m stressing but trying not to show it

So why haven't you reported her to the police for harassment? You are still allowing her to control you. Why did you leave your house? Turn the ringer off on the landline. Come on now.

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 06:23

Pleeeeaaasehelp · 05/09/2024 23:34

🤣🤣🤣
Honestly those you’ve suggested are simply lovely. Think more a cross between Glen Close as creulla de ville, and the woman who broke the writers legs in the Stephen King movie( name escapes me!).

I on the other hand would love to be mildly depressed getting attention from a young Clooney

OP, may I ask a personal question? Was one of your parents an alcoholic?

Pipsquiggle · 07/09/2024 07:19

God this just sounds awful.

You need to make it clear to your DH that you are done with MIL. No more contact with her at all.

If he wants to remain in touch, that's his choice but it cannot be in your home.

Why the hell did she turn up at your DS's workplace? How utterly embarrassing for him.

PattiSmithsPattis · 07/09/2024 08:18

So that'll be a table for one with a side order of bile?
30 years is a long time to put up with this level of batshit.
I hope she returns from whence she came & doesn't darken your door again ( but for good measure change your numbers, don't tell anyone your new address and tick the box that's keeps your details private on the electoral register)
Good luck 🪻
(And check out Stately homes thread for your husband)

Bodeganights · 07/09/2024 08:34

Second zombie thread I've come across, is someone plundering the archives.

RampantIvy · 07/09/2024 08:36

Bodeganights · 07/09/2024 08:34

Second zombie thread I've come across, is someone plundering the archives.

??

This thread was only started 4 days ago.

CaptainKiddies · 07/09/2024 08:41

I've name changed for this as its very outing.

My mother's parents were like this but there were two of them to enable each other. They were insidious, played the golden child game with my mother's brother, were abusive emotionally, misogynistic and, there were allegations of SA committed by him towards my mother. She would never really talk about it but I believed her as it explained so much.
They were a nasty piece of work but very good at fooling people and picking on the isolated. If confronted he would feign a heart attack and she would go on the attack about how awful we were.

Anyway, once I grew up and saw who they really were I begged my mum to go no contact with them. I saw how miserable they made her but she constantly sought their approval and attention in an unhealthy way. I couldn't understand it, I still don't fully if I'm honest. I feel so sad for her having grown up with them as parents.

I joined the military when I was an adult and served in Iraq. After one horrendous incident with the loss of multiple servicemen, we were repatriating the bodies to their parents who were waiting at Brize Norton to receive them. It was a horrific day, one I will never forget. I went back to my accommodation to check my emails to take my mind off what had just happened. There was an email from the pair of them that contained the most manipulative attention seeking narcissism I had ever seen. How they were old and shouldn't be treated this way, it was just manipulative bile. I decided there and then I would never speak to them again. They knew I was serving in Iraq. They knew I was in a frontline situation and under pressure. They didn't once ask me if I was okay or tell me to stay safe. It was just about them. I never spoke to them again or went to their funerals. It took that terrible incident to bring into focus how short life can be and how you don't have to put up with abusive people.

I can completely sympathise with your son. He's been put in the middle of a bad situation that he is suffering the consequences of. She is an abusive person and should never have been allowed around the children.

Don't let her cause anymore damage to your lives. Life is short.

Isometimeswonder · 07/09/2024 08:42

Campergirls1 · 03/09/2024 16:41

Oh OP, how could you do that to your husband, further abuse him by insisting he sees his abusive mother.

Absolutely horrendous behaviour on your behalf.
And your children too.

For me this is hugely unreasonable behaviour.
To think you know better than your spouse about his relationship with his parents.

What must they think privately about what you have forced upon them all for years.....an now this...

Pack up and leave the house with him.
Its the very least you can do.

I don't like to be harsh, but that you could persevere with this for so many years is so shockingly unloving behaviour towards a spouse.

Fix it now by going away together or telling him to go stay with someone and YOU will involve the police once and for all.

You owe it to your husband to fix this mess once and for all, together with a MASSIVE GROVELLING APOLOGY.

Wtaf are you talking about? Why is it OP's fault?
The husband should stand up for his wife and kids, it's HIS mother who is the problem.

justasking111 · 07/09/2024 08:43

I remember a thread on her awful MIL from abroad. Poster went to her mum's with baby to avoid the dreaded visits because husband wouldn't stand up to her.

The MIL moved in!! Poster held firm. After a few days the husband told his mother she had to leave he'd finally seen the light.

I was so impressed that the poster had such a good result.

You can't fix a narcissist.

porridgecake · 07/09/2024 08:44

Bodeganights · 07/09/2024 08:34

Second zombie thread I've come across, is someone plundering the archives.

Second time you have posted on a new thread saying it is a zombie thread. It IS September 2024. What date do you think it is?

Bodeganights · 07/09/2024 08:55

RampantIvy · 07/09/2024 08:36

??

This thread was only started 4 days ago.

Yes, i just realised i read the date wrong. Soz.

Campergirls1 · 07/09/2024 08:56

Isometimeswonder · 07/09/2024 08:42

Wtaf are you talking about? Why is it OP's fault?
The husband should stand up for his wife and kids, it's HIS mother who is the problem.

The OP has MASSIVELY drip fed AFTER my post.

How about you read the full thread.🙄

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 07/09/2024 09:31

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Isometimeswonder · 07/09/2024 09:37

Campergirls1 · 07/09/2024 08:56

The OP has MASSIVELY drip fed AFTER my post.

How about you read the full thread.🙄

I have. And I still think you're batshit crazy.

Nanny0gg · 07/09/2024 09:43

Pleeeeaaasehelp · 05/09/2024 21:35

@MrsLeonFarrell DH, hasn’t spoken to her yet. But is mad, says he’s done, and that he will not initiate contact. When she does, apparently he is going to tell her that any meetings will need to be out, as she is no longer welcome in the home.
We shall see……

Why any meetings at all?

What exactly does she have to do to be told to go away permanently?

Pleeeeaaasehelp · 07/09/2024 09:54

@Campergirls1 i don’t think I’ve massively drip fed. My op did state 30 years of rudeness, belittling and emotional abuse. In the op I just didn’t go into those details.

I didn’t expect the thread to take off as it has!
in response to that I answered questions.

Thank you to those who have shown understanding of how it’s got this bad, and for support to myself and my family for getting out. And get out we will…

The landline is disabled, two out of four kids have blocked.

DH is currently ignoring a barrage of messages. And we’re taking ourselves off for an unexpected
weekend away!

OP posts:
allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 07/09/2024 10:08

@Pleeeeaaasehelp DH is currently ignoring a barrage of messages. Is your husband not able to block texts and messages from her?? is that possible?

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