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Mil forcing dinner

403 replies

Pleeeeaaasehelp · 03/09/2024 15:50

I’ll make it brief. Mil has never liked me, never really tried to hide it even in front of the kids( constant rudeness and belittling). We don’t see her often as she lives abroad. She’s not your normal Gma, never Birthday or Xmas gifts! But every time we do see her someone ( usually more than one!) ends up in tears when she leaves.
Now the kids are all young adults they don’t want anything to do with her. They pretend phones aren’t working etc…. However that comes back on me.. I’ve turned them against her.
I really haven’t.
For 30 years I’ve put up with her emotional abuse.
Anyway…. She’s coming over, demanding a family meeting about how badly she is treated in this family.
I’ve finally decided I can’t face her anymore and I don’t want to go. I’ve spent 27 years saying to DH it’s only a week, it’s your mum etc…. ( He gave up years ago)
Aibu.
Go She’s old, you’ve put up with it for this long…..

Uanbu. Don't go, let shit hit the fan, but know you’ve been forced a death by a thousand cuts

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Thunderpants88 · 05/09/2024 23:08

I would go. Let her rant then tell her it’s your turn and give a potted history to her with both barrels.

I would also say “certainly you can come and discuss this but it will absolutely not be a dinner and also expect to hear a lot of home truths about your behaviour, attitude and treatment from people who you have hurt in the family. If you are prepared to sit quietly and respectfully listen then yes we can meet but not for dinner. It was only be for a discussion.”

Whatifitallgoesright · 05/09/2024 23:23

This is a good film script. I'm wondering who'd be good casting for MIL. Brenda Blethyn, Julie Waters, Maggie Steed? Can Nicola Walker play the SIL? Good side-plot possibilities with DS and a work-related problem. Flashbacks to previous painful 'meetings'. OP would you like to be mildly depressed yet getting unexpected attention from a man not your husband possibly at work or at a voluntary/community location? Ideas anybody? MIL could fatally discover this.

Theoldbird · 05/09/2024 23:32

NewName24 · 05/09/2024 19:07

The phone thing is possible. Some of us have had the same landline number for the same house for 40 years. Maybe they exchanged numbers around the time of wedding planning decades ago.

except that the OP said her parents were on holiday, so they wouldn't have been by their landline.

Op hasn't addressed this. interesting.

Pleeeeaaasehelp · 05/09/2024 23:34

🤣🤣🤣
Honestly those you’ve suggested are simply lovely. Think more a cross between Glen Close as creulla de ville, and the woman who broke the writers legs in the Stephen King movie( name escapes me!).

I on the other hand would love to be mildly depressed getting attention from a young Clooney

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RampantIvy · 05/09/2024 23:36

Misery - the film.

GeorgesMarvelousCalpol · 05/09/2024 23:37

Kathy Bates

Pleeeeaaasehelp · 05/09/2024 23:39

Theoldbird · 05/09/2024 23:32

Op hasn't addressed this. interesting.

Sorry!
I can only guess my dad gave it to her years ago at a Christening? And has forgotten
Or that he used to use it for work, and she found it by tracing his business, which he closed 8 ish years ago

OP posts:
Pleeeeaaasehelp · 05/09/2024 23:39

RampantIvy · 05/09/2024 23:36

Misery - the film.

Thank you

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Pleeeeaaasehelp · 05/09/2024 23:42

Nicola Walker for SIL is good

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BabaYetu · 05/09/2024 23:52

I'm so sorry she's still subjecting you to such nonsense, OP.

ICallPeopleDudeNow · 06/09/2024 08:53

Hope you are all doing ok @Pleeeeaaasehelp . Narcissists all have the same playbook - if you’re not familiar with it, you’d never believe they could do such things. That’s why they often get away with it because so many people won’t believe anyone could behave that way. Leaves you looking like a liar or an idiot (I speak from experience). Grey rock all the way if you can’t go no contact. Check out the Stately Homes threads here for advice and support x

Pleeeeaaasehelp · 06/09/2024 09:53

@ICallPeopleDudeNow previously if things have needed discussion, she’s always twisted the truth in such a way, that I just can’t respond…..
Then she just shuts down the conversation and moves on to how wonderful she is and belittles me in such a subtle way that only those close notice. Aaaaahhhh, I don’t get it! People think she’s great

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ICallPeopleDudeNow · 06/09/2024 09:55

Pleeeeaaasehelp · 06/09/2024 09:53

@ICallPeopleDudeNow previously if things have needed discussion, she’s always twisted the truth in such a way, that I just can’t respond…..
Then she just shuts down the conversation and moves on to how wonderful she is and belittles me in such a subtle way that only those close notice. Aaaaahhhh, I don’t get it! People think she’s great

Yes it can be so subtle. My family member was a master at it. She’s turned others against me unfortunately but the 10 years I’ve been no contact have saved my sanity. They all act the same - it’s insidious x

REP22 · 06/09/2024 11:01

Thanks for the updates @Pleeeeaaasehelp - your poor son! He must have been mortified that she turned up at work! But now all are seeing the true nature of it all. Ringing your parents and making a nuisance of herself at her grandson's place of business are not the actions of a reasonable person. And I am sorry to read of what happened over the heart murmur; that's appalling.

Good on your DH and your DC though, they sound great (your DD especially). This will probably get worse before it gets better - but you are doing all you can to put an end to this nonsense once and for all, so take strength from that.
I too have an M who is a "pillar of the community" and "so kind". The reality behind closed doors is very, very different.

Your poor DH though; what a rotten childhood he must have had. Hope he (and you) will be OK. I hope that you will emerge from the spectre of this as a stronger, happier (and freer) family together. xx

NewName24 · 06/09/2024 14:13

Lovely post @REP22
I agree with every word.

Pleeeeaaasehelp · 06/09/2024 16:26

@NewName24 i concur

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Dutch1e · 06/09/2024 17:54

This is so textbook. Brace yourself for Flying Monkeys and lawn tantrums.

It will get worse before it gets better but it will end.

In my case I had to emigrate (twice).

YippyKiYay · 07/09/2024 01:00

How horrible for you and your family OP. I agree with PP, def need police involvement if she is turning up at workplaces and harrassing other family members! Once she has a rap sheet, she won't look 'so kind'...

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/09/2024 02:00

Dutch1e · 06/09/2024 17:54

This is so textbook. Brace yourself for Flying Monkeys and lawn tantrums.

It will get worse before it gets better but it will end.

In my case I had to emigrate (twice).

Lawn tantrums? Not familiar with the phrase, what does it mean?

DPotter · 07/09/2024 03:17

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/09/2024 02:00

Lawn tantrums? Not familiar with the phrase, what does it mean?

Sitting on the lawn waiting for the family to come home.

MIL has form for this

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 04:59

Hell no. 30 years of it? Bloody hell. No more. Doesn't matter if she's old.

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 05:02

Pleeeeaaasehelp · 03/09/2024 15:56

She probably will sit on the doorstep until she’s let in. She has done that before. I pretended I didn’t hear the door. And DH came home from work!
Shit really will hit the fan if I don’t go to her demanded dinner!

What are you saying? You are an adult. You say, "No" to her. It doesn't matter what she says. Pretending you didn't hear the door?

Tell her to go away. If she doesn't then you call the police. They won't lock her up or whatever (probably won't) but they WILL make her go away.
Time to stand up for yourself. She's a bully. Don't let her bully you any more.

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 05:03

Pleeeeaaasehelp · 03/09/2024 15:58

He has, she’s not listening. She’s arrived in the country

Doesn't matter. Stand your ground.

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 05:08

MikeRafone · 03/09/2024 16:36

Actions speak louder than words

don't go

then if she comes and batters your door down, you see her on your turf on your terms -

you let her know her family meeting wasn't important to you

time has passed - you can't get it back and build a relationship on a dictatorship and as she has turned up at your door that is clearly what she wants - send her on her way to think about how she treats others before standing on your door step again

if she gives you an opinion on anything - then thank her for her opinion but its not important to me - repeat at each and every opinion she wants to share

Its really hard to battle with someone thanking them but agreeing and will piss her off more than any argument you have, but allows you to not rise to her fishing trip as a troll. MIL

Nothing good will come of engaging with MIL as you suggest. The OP should simply refuse to acknowledge her and, if MIL bangs on the door or whatever, then the police should be called. There is no negotiating with people like this.

NonsuchCastle · 07/09/2024 05:20

SleepGoalsJumped · 03/09/2024 17:29

So no one actually wants a relationship with her, but you have been trying to make everyone interact anyway.

The only unreasonable thing is that you have allowed this to continue for 27 years.

Otherwise, yanbu. But someone has to tell her before she spends money to come to you. Normally I would say this should be DHs job as she's his mother, but it sounds like he would have gone NC years ago except for your intervention so you do need to be part of this.

I think you need to draft an email or letter that comes from both you and DH, laying out that you have put in a huge amount of effort to keep a positive relationship going, against DH's better judgement, and that in the light of the continued negativity from her you are no longer prepared to do that. Make it clear that she is very welcome to try to cultivate a more positive relationship with your DC now that they are old enough to interact independently and you will do nothing to obstruct or discourage that, but that you will not be making yourself available to her for any further criticism, so will not be participating in any such meeting. It should be sent primarily from DH but you should put in the work to draft it.

No. It is utterly pointless to try to communicate with her. She will not listen. She will tantrum and manipulate. Pointless.

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