To think this is too early for a house guest to get up?

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My husband's sister and her husband are staying over for the weekend. They don't have children we have two young teens but they are both at friends this weekend.

DBIL has just gone to bed and cheerily announced as he did that he would be going out for a run at 6.00am and would bring a key (they have a spare as they house sit sometimes). Plus he casually mentioned something about making a smoothie beforehand so it actually sounds like he's getting up at more like 5.30am.

Neither DH or I are confrontational and so we both just sort of sat there shocked. But I am just not sure what to say. Our house isn't tiny but equally I am pretty sure all his getting ready etc is going to mean we wake up. And weekend lie ins are rare with two kids and associated activities!

I mean I guess he could be joking but he's not really that kind of person. His wife (DH sister) is normally quite sensible and she didn't seem at all embarrassed about it which is making me worry we are the weird ones for being a bit horrified!

Of course I'm not waking anyone up deliberately. If anyone is being woken up by 6am runners, which I doubt, it's because of their own issues with sleep or paper-thin walls. It's an amusing thought because I don't actually believe it happens to that poster, whose comment seemed more fuelled by an all-purpose dislike of runners in general.

As a runner you certainly notice that a minority of people out there seem to disapprove of, or dislike, runners on a point of principle. I see the cat's bum mouths and glares. That amuses me.

How interesting. A runner is such a strange person to dislike. It's not like they hang around! 😆surely they have passed you before they get a chance to do anything annoying?

Do you have any insight into why runners are disliked?

Why on earth is this such a problem - just let him get on with it and stay in bed?

The OP has made it pretty clear that switching on a blender to make a smoothie at 5:30 would disturb her sleep.

I’m a runner. I’ve had abuse shouted, things thrown and one prick stuck his leg out to trip me when I was running quietly past, with loads of space, on a shared path. I actually reported him. He ran into my path and stuck his leg out, I sort of jumped up to go over him and wound up pushing off his knee, which made him shriek out. Terrifying and ludicrous and hilarious all at once. Unfortunately for him I wear a small body cam when running in that particular path after a man attacked me.

Hide the smoothie maker!

you shouted back as he retired to bed - and don't wake us as you get up for your run!

I certainly would not put up with it, it would be the last visit just make excuses not to receive them again. Who in the right mind wakes the whole house at 5.00/5.30 totally inconsiderate.

. My DH has barred his sister and her family staying at ours as they are awake into late night so we are putting them in an Airbnb next time.

Good idea, there’s nothing wrong with having a few boundaries

Unless the runner is wearing hobnailed boots I fail to see that this would be considered a nuisance.

I am not against runners but I think some people have had bad experience with them running fast along fairly narrow paths and expecting others to move out the way.

Two different things
There's nothing objectively wrong with it. Everyone is entitled to their own preferences
But yes, a grown adult going to bed before 9pm on a weekend is objectively strange/unusual

And as @napody has very fairly pointed out, if early risers are allowed to denigrate night owls as lazy layabouts I am allowed to consider anyone who goes to bed before 10.30 at the absolute earliest (with the previously expressed caveat for illness/shiftwork/etc) as a bit immature and/or lame. Particularly if you are visiting someone who is kind enough to host you, its rude to go to bed at a frankly ridiculous hour (before the 9pm tv watershed ffs!)

That's horrendous! Did the police manage to get him?

Nope, they weren’t particularly interested in the trip man. They got the one that attacked me though.

Anyway, I don’t routinely use it because it’s horrendous, but I did set up a throwaway account and post my trip footage to the hellpit that is Nextdoor 😈. That was after the police took no interest. So I know who he is. His local business was named and panned on the thread because his job would involve him going into people’s houses on his own, and lots of women said they would now not feel safe with a man who behaved that way.

Weird running derail going on.
It's a house guest being up and about at 5am that's the issue here, not the fact they're planning a run!

I agree but doing other things at that hour (such as making smoothies?!) could be.

Oh, that's beautiful. What a fucking dick of a guy!

if the smoothie wasn’t pre made he wouldn’t be getting back in if it was my house.

The problem with most MN posters, is that we’re too damn polite! We put up with some real rubbish, then feel bad on the odd occasion that we challenge a CF. We’re far too British!

Nothing worse visiting someone and lying in bed waiting for them to get up. If I have guests, I'm up at no later than 7am but usually 6am to get ready and prepare breakfast. You don't have a lie in with guests

When we have guests the sods want a lie in - so I'm tiptoeing around in my own home not to wake them. Once it gets to 10a.m I stop making the same amount of effort - and if they want breakfast they make it themselves. Guests can get up when they want but it's not their home and they should work around their hosts routine.

Not a derail. A detour as one poster said something about hated everyone who ran. Which another poster pointed out was sort of an odd thing to hate.

but usually 6am to get ready and prepare breakfast

Crikey. What kind of breakfast do you provide?

It is toast or cereal in our house. Sometimes croissants.

This is completely normal for my house when people stay we are happy for them to treat the house as their home (it means I don’t have to play hostess)

when we have people stay we regularly have the early runners, children who seem incapable of sleeping past 05:30 and my MIL has dementia and currently likes to wander the house at night.

noise is just part of inviting people into your space.

Ha ha, nope.