Starmer the non charmer

[Bogginsthe3rd]

Now is the time to set out his vision for the UK, to inspire the UK towards harmony and productivity with a huge majority, which he will never have again. Instead there is a speech , presumably delayed by the riots, which continues to heap blame on the Tories. It was dour, depressing and offered no motivation to the public. There may be huge holes in the public finances and tough tax rises may be necessary, but he also needs to set out a grander plan for economic and societal prosperity. Why can he not do more ?

I guess I'm wrong!

Banning smoking near pubs will certainly help fill that black hole of missing funds 😬

I agree. I was waiting for a Churchillian speech about beaches but it was a bit of a bore fest. Don't understand why he's going on about the Tories, they're last week's chip wrapping.

I don’t think you are wrong. Not completely. The blame needs to be put where it belongs and there needs to be honesty about how bad things are. But I feel like there might have been a better balance to be struck.

Well if fewer people end up poorly Because of smoking it will be better in the long run

And it is the tories fault - they have run everything down, they have lied to everyone , they have spread hate and blame liberally

• he can't unify the country with a few well chosen words because people need results ( takes years ) not words

And because too many people are sulking that the far right didn't get in and too many are sulking that he will tax richer people more and too many will sulk if he tries to prevent the worst of climate change ( which would be eye watering expensive or societal collapse I'm not sure which way the uk will fall )

This.

Perhaps he's trying a brand new evolutionary tactic in politics - honesty?

I don’t think any party regardless of colour rosette would ever be properly honest 🤣

Cat shit or dog shit the lot of them 🤷🏻‍♀️

Are we going to have one of these threads every day?

Isn't the motivation for the public (according to Starmer, anyway) to get out of the hole and return to some semblance of normal living in a functional society? He's basically said that if we do the things his government intend to do we have a significantly better chance of improving than if we don't. He'd also get a load of criticism if he were cheery, upbeat and made promises he can't necessarily keep - e.g., from stiff-upper-lippers, realists, busy people, and the "no time for fairy tales, I take my whisky neat" brigade.

They're pretty relentless.

I wish people would use the politics board

Looks like it.

And all in the same tone - woe, woe and thrice woe.

I wonder whether they realise they sound so dreary whatever it is that they're going on about in each of their litanies?

If they wanted to improve the nation's health surely a tax on sugar, snacks and fast food would be more productive rather than clamping down on cigarettes for the umpteenth time.

Just so long as they leave out Walkers Paprika Max Crunch - in the spirit of taxing everyone else but me.

It's always the same thing: money. How to keep hold of their money.

Well if you look back there used to be one having a go at the Tories pretty much every other day.

Not so easy now the boot is on the other foot though.

No, Starmer isn't charismatic - we've had those PMs (Johnson) and they were incompetent weasels. He's fucking bright though and he's driven by wanting to improve things for people.

And yes we are here because of the last 14 years.

No.

Carrot not stick.
Seriously.

The veg we can grow in this UK should be dirt cheap. Because we have so much lovely farmland we can rewild, solar or house build on it.

Have Jamie Oliver write a book "cooking with UK seasonal vegetables" ..

2tierStarmer and his clampdown on free speech is absolutely terrifying.

Well the Tories were a shit show.

This is yet another statement that demands the provision of evidence.

You not able to spread hate speech anymore?

@cupcaske123

get used to it, we're going to have 4 years of this. everything is going to be the Tories fault, every manifesto point he fails to meet, every tax he increases, everything.

people voted labour, they got labour.

no one can say they weren't warned what it would be like.