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why doesn't anyone tell you about the grief?

316 replies

FunnysInLaJardin · 28/08/2024 21:57

That you feel when you child goes to university?

I have been struggling with it for months, but it doesn't seem to be acknowledged.

I understand that some people are happy for their DC to leave home, but there are so many of us that feel deep sadness about it.

I wish I had known all of this in advance, that I was going to feel all of this

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Not1Not2Butt3Holes · 30/08/2024 20:33

parkrun500club · 30/08/2024 16:15

I agree. Missing someone who is very much alive and kicking and will be back in a few weeks is not grief.

I also agree. A close friend of mine recently lost her 21 year old son in a motorbike accident. She will never see him or hold him again. That is real, immeasurable, heartbreaking grief.

Hectorscalling · 30/08/2024 20:34

Freysimo · 30/08/2024 18:49

I'm glad someone posted this first. My son died and I wish with all my heart he was just going to uni. Get over yourselves.

I am so sorry for your loss.

Trishthedish · 30/08/2024 20:39

Phase2 · 28/08/2024 22:07

Join that Facebook group What I wish I knew or something. They are all bereft at it. I had to leave it was so maudlin but you aren't alone op, those of us thrilled to see them grow up and go away are a minority.

I always felt that my job as a parent was to ensure that they were prepared for the outside world and for them to go off happily. My eldest chose to go to university in the USA, and I admit leaving him there was awful, but the excitement of holidays and hearing him tell us what was going on in his life was wonderful. He then of course, met an American girl and married her, and he has very recently, now lived in the USA as long as he lived in the uk. My daughter stayed in the uk and had an amazing time at university and we visited often. Love that they’ve both grown up to be such interesting adults and proud that my husband and I gave them the security to fly.

FeralDropBear · 30/08/2024 20:47

Grief is defined as deep sorrow.

My oldest, my rainbow baby, left for the military in 2022. I did not speak to him, see him, text him, for nearly a year due to training demands. I grieved for months. It wasn't that I didn't want him to be independent and have adventures. I did. But I missed him and was desolate that he was so far from me. (and he's still nearly 12,000 km away).

Grief and bereavement often coexist, but they're not necessarily the same thing. I was desolate because I missed my son. I was grieving the loss of the relationship we'd had. I was fearful for the future. There were many emotions all tangled up, and I was an emotional wreck.

I admit that I sometimes got a little prickly at mothers who told me they understood because they'd sent their own child off to university. At the time, I thought there was no way they could understand what I'd experienced. I didn't realize that accepting their feelings at face value wouldn't make mine less valid.

Letting go is the ultimate goal. But it's not always as easy to do as we'd imagine.

For what it's worth, a year after my oldest joined the military, my second went to university, and a year after that, my youngest joined him. My nest is well and truly empty, and I've adjusted. I still miss my kids like crazy sometimes and would love to have them all under my wings again, but they're embracing everything life offers. Yes, the transition can be brutal, but there's often joy on the other side. Hang in there.

GrannyRose15 · 30/08/2024 21:03

It’s known as empty nest syndrome and it is awful. Takes months if not years to get over losing your raisin d’etre. No advice I’m afraid. Just have to plough your way through. It does get better eventually.

GrannyRose15 · 30/08/2024 21:07

Not1Not2Butt3Holes · 30/08/2024 20:33

I also agree. A close friend of mine recently lost her 21 year old son in a motorbike accident. She will never see him or hold him again. That is real, immeasurable, heartbreaking grief.

That is tragic and I wish those involved all the best in the world. But belittling someone else’s grief because you know someone who has endured even more suffering doesn’t help anyone.

Perky1 · 30/08/2024 21:10

I have a severely disabled child relative who will not go to university and will never be able to live independently. I was grateful that my child could go to university and follow a path that would take her into adulthood and independence.

GrannyRose15 · 30/08/2024 21:12

WanOban · 29/08/2024 00:15

Please don’t use the word grief, it’s incredibly insulting to those who have actually lost a loved child.

No it isn’t. Grief comes in many forms. All are valid in their own way.

Gogogo12345 · 30/08/2024 21:24

whatwouldlilacerullodo · 30/08/2024 17:37

I work from home, that's why I worry about living alone. I'll have to look for a different job, a co-working space, new activities, something. It's not only about feeling lonely, but living with other people brings a certain routine and structure to the day - and I need that.

Fair enough.

Not1Not2Butt3Holes · 30/08/2024 21:24

GrannyRose15 · 30/08/2024 21:07

That is tragic and I wish those involved all the best in the world. But belittling someone else’s grief because you know someone who has endured even more suffering doesn’t help anyone.

Where did I belittle anyone? I'm simply agreeing with others who also believe that grief is on another scale to what the OP is experiencing as it is especially associated after the death of a loved one.

Moll2020 · 30/08/2024 21:43

I find it hard that my youngest daughter lives 4 hours away. My eldest lives in the same town as me, happily married etc but I so wish my youngest lived a bit closer. Youngest went off to Uni that was only an hour away but met her BF then they both found jobs and settled but like I said she’s 4 hours away. It’s too far to visit in a day.

CalmMintReader · 30/08/2024 21:59

oh god, they are doing what they want to do and spreading their wings! Be happy and proud! It doesn’t have to be awful - I’m super close to my kids but I’m so grateful I get to see them go to uni, plenty don’t - plenty who really are grieving. That 13 year old lad stabbed to death today. I’m sure his family would rather be seeing him go to uni in 5 years rather than actually grieving. Sick of reading such morose posts about kids being successful in their lives. They have long holidays and we have smartphones now!

CalmMintReader · 30/08/2024 22:01

GrannyRose15 · 30/08/2024 21:03

It’s known as empty nest syndrome and it is awful. Takes months if not years to get over losing your raisin d’etre. No advice I’m afraid. Just have to plough your way through. It does get better eventually.

These comments don’t help anyone! The t just encourages others to feel the same and wallow. Our kids live with us far longer than nature intended and they are home for a large part of the year!

CalmMintReader · 30/08/2024 22:03

Hectorscalling · 30/08/2024 20:34

I am so sorry for your loss.

I’m so sorry. And I hate all these posts about being devastated and grieving over kids going to university. It drives me mad. It’s nothing, NOTHING compared to what you are going through.

Treelichen · 30/08/2024 22:04

I didn't feel grief at all. I was happy that my children were becoming adults and gaining independence.

janbaby14 · 30/08/2024 22:06

I can tell you about the never ending grief when you actually lose a child…. Get a life

CalmMintReader · 30/08/2024 22:07

Mainoo72 · 30/08/2024 15:54

I agree. Many of us get on with our lives & don’t feel grief. I think it’s disrespectful to parents whose DC have actually died to describe it as grief. It’s just so over dramatic.

Totally agree and I think so many mums make each other worse, ‘oh it’s so dreadful, I sobbed for weeks’ - we are bloody lucky!!

Timebomb1 · 30/08/2024 22:20

usernother · 28/08/2024 22:18

People don't tell you because not everyone feels it. I missed both of mine but I was also happy and excited for them. I think you bring them up to set them free and I was glad they had the confidence to be living alone in a strange city and that they were clever enough to be able to go to Uni. They had opportunities I never had.

I love this..

shehasglasses48 · 30/08/2024 22:49

They’ll be back, don’t worry. Too expensive for them to live independently as we did in the 80/90s unless they want to rough it or have a huge trust fund.

CalmMintReader · 30/08/2024 23:34

Phase2 · 28/08/2024 22:07

Join that Facebook group What I wish I knew or something. They are all bereft at it. I had to leave it was so maudlin but you aren't alone op, those of us thrilled to see them grow up and go away are a minority.

Maybe, it definitely feels like it! Or maybe loads agree with you but don’t want to say it. I’m really excited for mine and grateful that I get to see it. Sick of all the negativity, it would be very easy to just sink into it thinking that’s how we should feel and then it just snowballs into depression! .I think some mums think it proves how close they are but that’s a load of rubbish, I’m really close to mine and will miss him so much but I’m not letting that ruin this exciting (and very proud and fortunate) time.

CalmMintReader · 30/08/2024 23:39

Enko · 28/08/2024 22:29

I disagree.. I have a life outside of my children. I have interests outside of them. They are however my most favourite people in the world. Dh and the dog in most favourites too.. dd1s fiance and ds girlfriend slowly getting up there too..

But I have a full life thats not dependent on my children. Doesn't mean I don't want to spend time w them.

That’s not what she was saying though, I think it’s more in reference to the ‘grief’. Just because some aren’t bereft and devastated when their kids go to uni, it doesn’t mean they don’t want to spend time with them or they aren’t their favourite people. I think the majority of mums feel like that about their kids, I certainly do but I don’t want to descend into a depressed state when they are healthy, happy, doing what they want to do and are ready for it.

KittyBeebee · 30/08/2024 23:40

Pantaloons99 · 30/08/2024 18:47

I find this so strange as I know my own mum was overjoyed to get rid of me and avoid coming to visit me at all costs. As hard as it is for you guys, just know your kids must feel very loved in the knowledge you miss them so terribly ❤️

Absolutely yes, like there's always someone and somewhere for them to go, whatever happens

Mygrandkidsaregreat · 31/08/2024 00:02

It is hard,I remember it well and well bereft when my dd went to uni.a friend said she’d give her high teeth to see he DS be able to live independently as he had special needs,and it wouldn’t happen for him.
that made me think.
also she came home every break they have and we soon settled int that routine.Shes on elastic and pings back often!

TheM55 · 31/08/2024 00:05

Sadness, or grief, if you like, is not a competition. I know exactly how you feel @FunnysInLaJardin . My two eldest went to University on the same day (they are a year apart but oldest son had to resit) I even managed to miss taking them, and their Dad did the job, who is far less emotional than me (I was unavoidably in the US with work when the day came). I am not a particularly emotional person, but my heart hurt so much that I could not stop crying, but I knew they would be getting the best opportunity ever and I should just "get over it", so I was also sort of happy too, but as every second and message ticked past "just dropped DC1 off" it hurt more. I eventually pulled myself together, because I knew my kids would not want me crying and they were about to live their best times and I would be seeing them again before too long. But yeah, really hard. And although I said "it is not a competition" you have to justify yourself sometimes on mumsnet - my first son died as a baby. Dreadful time but It is a long time ago, and the grief at the time has now become easier to cope with. No-one should get to tell you what you should or should not be sad about. If i have to offer one bit of practical help, it is worse in the imagining of it, than the actual event and the thereafter. x

RootToVictory · 31/08/2024 00:25

Sadness, or grief, if you like, is not a competition

In the context, this is possibly the worst thing I’ve ever seen posted on this board. Suggest you edit.

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