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Husband made lists about what I have done ‘wrong’

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IfIwasablackbird · 27/08/2024 10:24

We were in the car with the kids recently and I opened his phone to put google maps on. He was driving.
It came up with a list of things about me ‘No food shopping left Tuesday, nothing to cook for dinner’ and it went on, chores and things.
I asked and kind of ignored it as the kids were in the car.
When I asked later he said it was in case I brought up things he hasn’t done, so he’s made lists about me!!?!? I was so shocked.
I pointed out that I am not solely responsible for food shopping, he had actually done it that particular weekend.

We both work full time and it’s fair to say I do just about all life admin, all the school stuff, Drs, dentists, school uniform etc.
I then realise there are more lists, with stuff such as ‘went for a run, had to watch child2 while she went to have hair done’.

I’m just so hurt and upset and he sees absolutely no issue, won’t even apologise.

I can’t get past it and he doesn’t care. Basically it’s more convenient for him if I just pretend I didn’t see this.

Am I being unreasonable to feel this is a dealbreaker? It just shows a total lack of respect. We’ve been together 20 years and he has always been quite selfish but this is just next level nasty.

OP posts:
MounjaroUser · 27/08/2024 11:15

Kokomjolk · 27/08/2024 11:13

Ask him straight out, do you actually like me at all?

Because it's not how anyone behaves towards someone they love or even mildly like. It's the behaviour of someone seething with resentment and contempt.

No point in asking him that. He's shown what he thinks of her.

PulpFaction · 27/08/2024 11:16

This would be my line in the sand OP.

When I was with an ex, I found a list of pros and cons about me. I stuck it to his kitchen unit with glue and was out of there.

If he had been the catch of the century, I would have got it but he was not and he displayed characteristics similar to those you have added in your later posts.

Leave. This sort of thing only escalates and he does not see you as an equal in any way.

Overtheatlantic · 27/08/2024 11:16

He doesn’t like you. Ducks in a row and all that.

MounjaroUser · 27/08/2024 11:17

Twenty years is enough, OP. No need to put up with twenty-one years.

catscarestars · 27/08/2024 11:17

What a git, I'd be making a list to get myself out of bring in a marriage like that!
Look after yourself Op 💕

Investinmyself · 27/08/2024 11:18

You sound very capable Op. Without him dragging you down your life would be much easier. At minute you are walking on eggshells and likely to neglect yourself as you are hardly likely to book in with dr/dentist/hair knowing he’s writing had to mind my own child for an hour in his phone.

Tamrastarr · 27/08/2024 11:18

I used to make a note of the way my OH treated me, but this was because he gaslit me and would say that things never happened or that I had totally imagined something. I actually had to make a list so I could go back and make sure I wasn't going mad, because this is what he would tell me "you're mental, you need help!".

But I didn't make petty lists like "he forgot to take the bins out"

Kokomjolk · 27/08/2024 11:19

MounjaroUser · 27/08/2024 11:15

No point in asking him that. He's shown what he thinks of her.

Just to try to get him to address what the actual issue is instead of pretending that everything's normal.

But you're probably right, probably a waste of time trying to discuss it.

SarahSosej · 27/08/2024 11:20

This is very weird behaviour. Imagine having your every move watched and then documented on a naughty list. I couldn’t be arsed with this strange behaviour. He clearly is resentful of you and keeping scores. Just plain odd!

PulpFaction · 27/08/2024 11:22

Actually, his initials aren't J P are they? He sounds just like my ex.

The fact that he resents minding his own kid and sees it as your role that he is being forced to do in your absence is as bad as it gets.

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · 27/08/2024 11:23

IfIwasablackbird · 27/08/2024 11:14

I doubt he’s having an affair. I don’t think he has the capacity.

Thanks everyone. I think the fact he thinks this is such a nothingness was starting to make me think I was being hysterical.

I really appreciate all the responses.

As many of you have pointed out, he must think very little of me, which I knew was the case anyway really. He makes it pretty clear. He only likes me when I work myself to the bone so he doesn’t have to do anything and I have spent 20 years doing so

youd have probably found his notes on that as well 😉

what an absolute cock. I’m sorry op, he’s justifying the end isn’t he.

mushroomforest · 27/08/2024 11:23

That’s a really petty thing for him to have done and is certainly not a normal thing for a loving partner to do. You’re not overreacting at all. It sounds like he has a lot of resentment, and resentment breeds contempt.

benefitstaxcredithelp · 27/08/2024 11:23

So you do ALL the life admin work AND he makes a list about what he perceives you’ve done ‘wrong’ ?!!?!?

This is bad even by MN standards of bastard men.

I’m sending love and solidarity @IfIwasablackbird 💐

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 27/08/2024 11:23

I agree with @Investinmyself
"At minute you are walking on eggshells and likely to neglect yourself as you are hardly likely to book in with dr/dentist/hair knowing he’s writing had to mind my own child for an hour in his phone."

Sorry you are going through this OP. Its so mean and resentful of him. And hard to cope with.

As a starting point, would it be worth getting him to face the fact that he wrote these things, by getting him to counselling, if nothing else it might reveal what his actual thinking is.

But as he'd rather you pretend that you never saw this list.. I doubt it will be easy to drag him along as he'll know he'd be in for a bit of stick from any reasonable councillor. Maybe it would help you to visit on your own.

If nothing else its made you see him in a whole new light, which must be hard to deal with.

KimberleyClark · 27/08/2024 11:23

Dear god that's appalling.

KeepinOn · 27/08/2024 11:24

Sorry OP, your relationship is dead and it has been for quite some time.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 27/08/2024 11:24

Fuck that shit. Ditch the cunt. I couldn’t live like that.

Franjipanl8r · 27/08/2024 11:26

Both being full time working parents is like doing a job share. The family admin load is massive. Yes he’s been sneaky and snide and he sounds like an arsehole, but it sounds like neither of you have put in the time and effort to actually fairly divide up all the life admin. Why are you doing it all? Why haven’t you both listed and divided up the chores and mental load?

This is either the catalyst for a break up or the kick up the arse you both need to share everything fairly.

Createausername1970 · 27/08/2024 11:27

I am not an LTB person. But honestly I think your marriage is dead in the water. If you can access the list again and forward to yourself, I would do this.

Don't know how old your kids are or whether you want to split up, but I would, from this point forward, stop doing stuff for him such as laundry or any if his life admin.

Crikeyalmighty · 27/08/2024 11:27

I rather like @katseyes7 suggestion- list 'on the fridge' - if you didn't have kids who would see it I would think it's a brilliant idea

Perplexed20 · 27/08/2024 11:27

My dh says you should tell your h to f off.

Pedallleur · 27/08/2024 11:28

Good to know he has time to make a list. Not much happening in his world?

PulpFaction · 27/08/2024 11:28

IfIwasablackbird · 27/08/2024 11:14

I doubt he’s having an affair. I don’t think he has the capacity.

Thanks everyone. I think the fact he thinks this is such a nothingness was starting to make me think I was being hysterical.

I really appreciate all the responses.

As many of you have pointed out, he must think very little of me, which I knew was the case anyway really. He makes it pretty clear. He only likes me when I work myself to the bone so he doesn’t have to do anything and I have spent 20 years doing so

This behaviour is called gaslighting OP. If it wasn't important, he would never have gone to the effort of making a list. It is clearly super important to him.

UnnecessaryOwl · 27/08/2024 11:28

CrunchyCarrot · 27/08/2024 10:34

Goodness, what is he doing, making a list of things to justify leaving you?? Does sound a bit that way OP. Not surprised you feel upset.

This is how I read it too.

lemonpepperlady · 27/08/2024 11:28

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