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Madonna’s younger men

248 replies

Vergus · 22/08/2024 19:52

AIBU in thinking good luck to Madge for her penchant for men 30+ years younger? She is currently dating a man aged 28 and she’s 66. People are outraged by it - but she’s having fun and I think good luck to her! She loves to be controversial and she has the money and the power to do what she likes!

Why is it ok for men to date much younger women but when this is reversed everyone is shocked and outraged and “concerned” for her safety??!! She’s fine! She’s loving life. It’s so silly and pretentious anyway, all this faux worry for her well-being.

Good on her

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offyoujollywelltrot · 22/08/2024 22:48

BowlOfNoodles · 22/08/2024 22:47

Only a person is nearly 30 it's quite odd to think they can the victim of predatory behaviour how old do you expect somebody to be before we say they are not vulnerable lol.

Again, it's a huge power imbalance, especially because of the money she has.

Bbq1 · 22/08/2024 22:51

Lazysuusan · 22/08/2024 19:56

Would you say the same about Leo De Caprio? Its equally repulsive.

I know, Leo Dc goes after teenagers.

BowlOfNoodles · 22/08/2024 22:51

offyoujollywelltrot · 22/08/2024 22:48

Again, it's a huge power imbalance, especially because of the money she has.

She's being used for money Him for fun.

dontcryformeargentina · 22/08/2024 22:52

ThePoshUns · 22/08/2024 20:26

It's ok for Mick Jagger though?

Double standards

EsmaCannonball · 22/08/2024 22:53

My idea of growing old disgracefully is no longer caring what people think. Madonna clearly cares deeply about what people think. Rather than seeming happy and devil-may-care, she seems desperate for attention and deeply distressed that the sex appeal she relied on is a depreciating currency. I couldn't get any pleasure out of seeing someone who wouldn't look twice at me if I wasn't rich, and that is something I also say about rich old men and beautiful young women too.

TheClawDecides · 22/08/2024 22:54

offyoujollywelltrot · 22/08/2024 22:48

Again, it's a huge power imbalance, especially because of the money she has.

She hasn't stuffed him in a sack and slung him over her shoulder though.

He wants his 15 minutes of fame and everything her money and power will bring him, and she wants a bit of fun and a younger bloke on her arm.

Given he's nearly 30, he's old enough to know the score.

Bbq1 · 22/08/2024 22:55

Although regards Leo/Madonna etc they are very transactional relationships. Of course Leo and Madonna know they are with younger partners who only want the lifestyle they can provide but equally the older partner is getting the sex they want. Everyone are adults and it's consensual but it's still very seedy.

SaintHonoria · 22/08/2024 22:55

What a soulless existence to pay young men to be her boyfriend.

BowlOfNoodles · 22/08/2024 22:55

TheClawDecides · 22/08/2024 22:54

She hasn't stuffed him in a sack and slung him over her shoulder though.

He wants his 15 minutes of fame and everything her money and power will bring him, and she wants a bit of fun and a younger bloke on her arm.

Given he's nearly 30, he's old enough to know the score.

Oh absolutely approaching 30 is a mature adult you can't prey upon

AnonyMoi · 22/08/2024 22:58

I think Madonna is a mentally unwell woman, terribly advised by those around her - who take advantage of her. Nothing empowering, I'm afraid, but sad.

SaintHonoria · 22/08/2024 22:59

Both Madonna and Cher know that if they were Margaret and Cheryl who worked in Walmart, they would not have young men sniffing around them at their ages.

They enjoy the power of having toy boys they they pay to do their bidding.

suburberphobe · 22/08/2024 23:00

All agist shit going on here. Jealousy too.

myfitbitisfucked · 22/08/2024 23:10

In this particular context I would suggest everything is happening for a reason. Those involved know exactly what those reasons are.

Madonna is a control freak and every single aspect of her musical genre manifestations and associated appearance, other career choice, causes she supports or matters she condemns, her friendships, her sex life, choice of partners - including those elements she would have Joe Public believe are the product of not caring and giving a shit - are anything but. Even pretending to not care and pursuing shock value are as choreographed as her concerts.

cupcaske123 · 22/08/2024 23:28

offyoujollywelltrot · 22/08/2024 22:44

Having relationships with people significantly younger than yourself, is predatory and exploitative, especially if the older party has money. The power dynamic in that situation keeps the younger party at their whim, and if you look at Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, that is a perfect example of what a man with a stupid amount of money, can do to a significantly younger woman who dared to speak up about his abuse.

It's revolting.

I see. I didn't realise that every relationship with an age gap or wealth imbalance was abusive. I just saw two consenting adults who were obviously enjoying themselves, but it seems as though she's a serial abuser and he has no agency. Should we log it with 101?

cupcaske123 · 22/08/2024 23:30

suburberphobe · 22/08/2024 23:00

All agist shit going on here. Jealousy too.

Apparently she's a worthless old crone who has to pay for sex. No misogyny here.

BeachParty · 22/08/2024 23:33

RoseUnder · 22/08/2024 20:13

Forty six years of superstardom and she still fills stadiums and has people talking about her.

I love her, few other women - or men- have survived that sustained level of global fame with such a robust, two fingers up attitude!

Well said, love her.
If they're two consenting adults, why the hell not?!

BeachParty · 22/08/2024 23:34

AnonyMoi · 22/08/2024 22:58

I think Madonna is a mentally unwell woman, terribly advised by those around her - who take advantage of her. Nothing empowering, I'm afraid, but sad.

"Mentally unwell?" What are you basing that on? 😕

TempestTost · 22/08/2024 23:36

I don't particularly care about age differences, but Madonna seems quite desperate and afraid of ageing, not accepting of it. Her photos make her look like a sex doll, totally artificially.

Supersoakers · 22/08/2024 23:42

From the woman herself
“People say that I’m so controversial,” she said to the crowd. “But I think the most controversial thing that I’ve done is to stick around.”

Decaffeinatedplease · 22/08/2024 23:54

I'm not worried about his capacity to consent freely aged nearly 30 and with his own career. He may like her, he may like her money, but I don't think there's any crazy power imbalance here, he's good-looking, fit uni graduate and has a career so is bringing something to the table, as is she. The fact that Madge down the chippy wouldn't get a 30 year old is irrelevant, very few people would date someone who wasn't bringing similar value to the relationship, whether it be looks, money, intelligence, companionship or whatever. It has to be perceived as a fair match or exchange by both parties.

I do think trying to cover up your age by wearing gloves all the time is a bit silly though.

ProvincialLady2024 · 23/08/2024 00:08

When I see real (non filtered pictures) of Madonna she looks a bit like Miss Havisham on acid. I'd be embarrassed to be in her company, but as an onlooker - all power to her.

CarpeVitam · 23/08/2024 00:09

ProvincialLady2024 · 23/08/2024 00:08

When I see real (non filtered pictures) of Madonna she looks a bit like Miss Havisham on acid. I'd be embarrassed to be in her company, but as an onlooker - all power to her.

🤣🤣

PassingStranger · 23/08/2024 00:51

Jealousy doubt many of us or any of us would be able to pull a 28 year old at 66.
It suits them both and nothing to do with anyone else and they are not going to be bothered about random online.

Halloumiheaven · 23/08/2024 00:58

myfitbitisfucked · 22/08/2024 23:10

In this particular context I would suggest everything is happening for a reason. Those involved know exactly what those reasons are.

Madonna is a control freak and every single aspect of her musical genre manifestations and associated appearance, other career choice, causes she supports or matters she condemns, her friendships, her sex life, choice of partners - including those elements she would have Joe Public believe are the product of not caring and giving a shit - are anything but. Even pretending to not care and pursuing shock value are as choreographed as her concerts.

Agree with this

Onabench · 23/08/2024 01:09

I think it's gross when much older male celebs date people so young. Women aren't excluded from that, you just don't see it often.