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Madonna’s younger men

248 replies

Vergus · 22/08/2024 19:52

AIBU in thinking good luck to Madge for her penchant for men 30+ years younger? She is currently dating a man aged 28 and she’s 66. People are outraged by it - but she’s having fun and I think good luck to her! She loves to be controversial and she has the money and the power to do what she likes!

Why is it ok for men to date much younger women but when this is reversed everyone is shocked and outraged and “concerned” for her safety??!! She’s fine! She’s loving life. It’s so silly and pretentious anyway, all this faux worry for her well-being.

Good on her

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Blackcats7 · 23/08/2024 12:16

I don’t think it is ok for men or women. Obviously nothing illegal but an age gap as huge as this just makes both parties look ridiculous imo.
I also think Madonna has gone downhill at a rate of knots and now she is just weird.
These type of situations are transactional for money/fame/ trophy or sometimes a fetish.
What on earth can a 66 year old have in common with a twenty something?

IjustbelieveinMe · 23/08/2024 12:36

CharlotteRumpling · 22/08/2024 20:09

Segue but Tracy Chapman. There's someone who really doesn't care what people think, and has aged brilliantly. That's an excellent, strong woman for me.

Aged gracefully maybe, but not a very nice person in real life.

BowlOfNoodles · 23/08/2024 12:39

GeilistheWitch · 23/08/2024 11:34

I have a 28 year old son...... I can't imagine the family dynamic if he were dating a woman who was older than me.

Well u very much doubt it's going to be a meet the parents type of relationship

BowlOfNoodles · 23/08/2024 12:45

Oldseagull · 23/08/2024 10:06

Neither is ok.

I'm 37 and have noticed that younger men seem like young boys to me. It's actually scary how impressionable and naive they can be. I can't understand anyone who could have romantic or sexual feelings towards someone much younger than themselves. Gross.

A young man in his 20's made a pass at me once and it was almost laughable. The only temptation I had to resist was one to give him a sandwich and send him home to his mother.

There is a clear life experience and wisdom imbalance there.

I can only imagine that it is attractive to defective adults who don't want equality in their relationships, but a young person to mould and influence.

I know a 25 year old ( family friend ) who's a junior doctor and runs a small business he's paying off he's mortgage takes care of he's grandmother and has absolute respect and manner intelligent and well traveled. And there's a 40 year old who drinks outside the off licence and always wants to fist fight with the locals sometimes age is but a number! You don't have to understand Madonnas boyfriend might be educated, worldly and a positive energy at 28

BIossomtoes · 23/08/2024 12:45

Vergus · 22/08/2024 20:00

@RoseUnder

It’s absolutely fine. I love how Madonna is aging disgracefully.

I absolutely agree! She doesn’t give a damn for what people think and she knows her behaviour will be viewed as disgraceful by many. What an excellent, strong woman

I think she’s a deluded stupid woman personally. Her behaviour isn’t so much disgraceful as pathetic and most people who give her a second’s thought are laughing at her.

LadyKenya · 23/08/2024 12:56

IjustbelieveinMe · 23/08/2024 12:36

Aged gracefully maybe, but not a very nice person in real life.

How would you know what she is like?

BeachParty · 23/08/2024 13:07

BIossomtoes · 23/08/2024 12:45

I think she’s a deluded stupid woman personally. Her behaviour isn’t so much disgraceful as pathetic and most people who give her a second’s thought are laughing at her.

Well, don't you sound delightful. 🙄

BeachParty · 23/08/2024 13:08

IjustbelieveinMe · 23/08/2024 12:36

Aged gracefully maybe, but not a very nice person in real life.

Have you met her?

BeachParty · 23/08/2024 13:11

GeilistheWitch · 23/08/2024 11:34

I have a 28 year old son...... I can't imagine the family dynamic if he were dating a woman who was older than me.

He's an ADULT at 28 though.
What his mum thinks about the age gap and how she thinks it will affect her family dynamic/outlook is irrelevant.

lemonmeringueno3 · 23/08/2024 13:40

There's nothing gross or disgusting about two consenting adults in a legal relationship.

We all find different things attractive or unattractive don't we?

I expect many shouting 'gross and disgusting' are married to balding tubs of lard that many would also find gross and disgusting but are too polite to say.

bringbacksideburns · 23/08/2024 13:56

I feel a bit sorry for her in a way. Her relationships don’t seem to last very long and are mostly dancers on her tours it seems. Is it a control thing that she doesn’t really date men her age or older?

I just can’t imagine they have much in common apart from sex really, which is fine if that’s all she wants. No different to Leo and Red Hot Chilis guy and Jimmy Page. ( Page in particular seedily infamous for sleeping with teens.)

Nearly 40 years though. It’s a huge gap.

BowlOfNoodles · 23/08/2024 14:01

bringbacksideburns · 23/08/2024 13:56

I feel a bit sorry for her in a way. Her relationships don’t seem to last very long and are mostly dancers on her tours it seems. Is it a control thing that she doesn’t really date men her age or older?

I just can’t imagine they have much in common apart from sex really, which is fine if that’s all she wants. No different to Leo and Red Hot Chilis guy and Jimmy Page. ( Page in particular seedily infamous for sleeping with teens.)

Nearly 40 years though. It’s a huge gap.

She might not fancy 60 year old men they are usually balding slower metabolism, less sexual function, tiredness, etc when you are a multimillionaire you have options I guess.

IjustbelieveinMe · 23/08/2024 14:18

@BeachParty it's reknown in the music industry that she is a very nasty person to work with.

BIossomtoes · 23/08/2024 14:26

BowlOfNoodles · 23/08/2024 14:01

She might not fancy 60 year old men they are usually balding slower metabolism, less sexual function, tiredness, etc when you are a multimillionaire you have options I guess.

I don’t suppose deep down that most 28 year olds would fancy her either. That’s why she’s delusional.

RoseUnder · 23/08/2024 17:13

IjustbelieveinMe · 23/08/2024 14:18

@BeachParty it's reknown in the music industry that she is a very nasty person to work with.

Pure sexism - because she’s a successful woman.

Show me any equally successful female artist who isn’t accused of being a boss bitch by those male music executives and journalists who like nothing more than to knock ambitious women down.

Horrid to read the posts from women on this thread doing the same, having achieved a fraction of what Madonna has.

Arconialiving · 23/08/2024 17:52

I agree @RoseUnder

Achangearama · 23/08/2024 18:22

BeachParty · 23/08/2024 08:03

What age should we start to "act appropriately", to wear comfortable clothes, stop jumping about uncouthly and only use social media to follow our knitting groups?
(Asking for future reference)
🙄

It’s not about how she dresses or looks at all. Her TikTok reminds me of Britney’s - weird attention seeking dancing like a child saying “mummy look at my new routine”, lots of pass agg messaging that’s a bit like when someone’s had a fallout with a family member or Facebook etc,

I think she looks fine - and I dgaf what she wears.

Mercurial123 · 23/08/2024 21:35

She's not handling ageing well. Her Instagram photos are proof of that.

Madonna’s younger men
LiterallyOnFire · 23/08/2024 21:47

lemonmeringueno3 · 23/08/2024 13:40

There's nothing gross or disgusting about two consenting adults in a legal relationship.

We all find different things attractive or unattractive don't we?

I expect many shouting 'gross and disgusting' are married to balding tubs of lard that many would also find gross and disgusting but are too polite to say.

Huh? At a certain age, most men are bald. Balding isn't disgusting. WTF?

Nothing gross about dating age appropriately; Having relationships without a power imbalance is healthy. I hope when I'm older my OH will be ageing at the same speed I am.

I always feel sad for young things who feel they have to trade their young flesh to get ahead. I very clearly remember what it felt like in my twenties to be drooled over by men in late middle age.

It'd be a rare kink to date up by 30 years in a society where everyone gets a fair go.

Disturbia81 · 23/08/2024 23:26

lemonmeringueno3 · 23/08/2024 13:40

There's nothing gross or disgusting about two consenting adults in a legal relationship.

We all find different things attractive or unattractive don't we?

I expect many shouting 'gross and disgusting' are married to balding tubs of lard that many would also find gross and disgusting but are too polite to say.

There is so much wrong with this post..

IjustbelieveinMe · 23/08/2024 23:34

@RoseUnder what makes you think this is a sexist male execs opinion. This has from crew members who have worked with her on tour. Actual people trying to do their jobs and being threatened of losing their jobs if she was unhappy with a show. Think of her a female Morrissey. But that's ok because she is female. Right.

AutumnLeavesAndSunshineAndRain · 24/08/2024 00:11

I think it's gross, grim, and foul. Whether it's a woman of nearly 70 dating a man young enough to be her grandson (like Madonna,) or a man dating a woman young enough to be his grandaughter. It's bad enough when the age gap is enough to be parent/child, (like Leonardo DiCaprio and his long list of production-line blondes,) but an age gap of 40 years is hideous.

These 20-something men wouldn't look twice at Madonna if she wasn't a major music star with tons of money. I feel embarrassed for them. I wonder how much they're being paid/what's in it for them?

If you've got a son in his 20s, (or a brother or nephew of that age,) how would you feel if he was dating a woman who is nearly 70? No go on, tell the truth. Don't say it wouldn't bother you, tell the truth.

And NO! I am not married to a balding tub of lard! (As @lemonmeringueno3 suggested the posters who are disgusted by it very likely are - at 13.40.)

BeachParty · 24/08/2024 02:45

Disturbia81 · 23/08/2024 23:26

There is so much wrong with this post..

Why?

YankSplaining · 24/08/2024 03:16

Lazysuusan · 22/08/2024 19:56

Would you say the same about Leo De Caprio? Its equally repulsive.

Not that I know anything more about him than anyone else does, but I strongly suspect that he's gay. I think he makes arrangements so he can be seen with beautiful young women and they can get publicity for their careers. Then he ends things when they're in their mid-twenties so they can get in actual relationships and have children if they want to. I find it very weird how none of them seem to ever say a word about their relationships with him - not even, "he's a nice guy, but it didn't work out," or something equally benign.

He became world-famous because of Titanic, and part of his appeal at the time was that girls could imagine there was the faintest chance they could be his girlfriend. It would have been unthinkable for a young Hollywood heartthrob to be openly gay. I always remember that time Kate Winslet said she knew "at least four" actors who were gay, but stayed in the closet because they thought it would hurt their careers. Leo goes pretty much everywhere with Lukas Haas and has for decades.

Anyway. Carry on.

YankSplaining · 24/08/2024 03:29

I don't understand the modern obsession with "age gap relationships." If everyone involved is an adult, I really don't care, and I don't think it's "disgusting" or "wrong."

I bet none of these men would be with her if she wasn't rich and famous, though. There are lots of attractive people her age, but she looks just bizarre these days, unfortunately.