Madonna’s younger men

[Vergus]

AIBU in thinking good luck to Madge for her penchant for men 30+ years younger? She is currently dating a man aged 28 and she’s 66. People are outraged by it - but she’s having fun and I think good luck to her! She loves to be controversial and she has the money and the power to do what she likes!

Why is it ok for men to date much younger women but when this is reversed everyone is shocked and outraged and “concerned” for her safety??!! She’s fine! She’s loving life. It’s so silly and pretentious anyway, all this faux worry for her well-being.

Good on her

Spot on. I love madonna, she was the soundtrack to my childhood.

She knows exactly what she's doing and she does care very much. Her curated filtered pics on instagram indicate someone who cares very much about her image, despite what she says.

Someone who simply "didnt care" wouldnt have achieved the wealth, fame, notoriety and longevity that she has. She controls everything with an iron fist and knows exactly what she is doing.

20 and nearly 30 is very different! At what age are we saying you are no longer seen as prey? Because 28 is absolutely ridiculous to suggest can be seen as a predator for fancying!

I don’t necessarily think that someone valuing a partner being wealthy, famous, young &/or beautiful is the worst thing in the world. It can be a mutually beneficial relationship and just because your reason for starting a relationship is transactional doesn’t mean it can’t be genuine or that there are not many things outside wealth/fame/youth/beauty that are valued in the relationship. The idea that the only things a young man could find attractive about a highly successful, creative, driven woman in her 60’s is her money or her fame is pretty misogynistic. The idea that the only thing a young person could ever find attractive in an older person is their money is pretty ageist. I’m sure it’s true that if she was Madge from Bingo she might not attract many 28 year olds but her money or even her fame won’t be the only things separating her from the average 60 something year old woman.
I generally agree that relationship where one person has loads of money/influence and the other doesn’t are ones where there is a higher risk of exploitation/abuse going on but I’m not sure that’s limited to relationships with large age gaps.

I've never watched a single episode of that Kardashian trash (the epitome of gutter tv), but did see an interview where she says she and her toyboy are constantly at it. I don't think she's bothered about the age gap.

I'm 68. I find it yukky whichever way it is. I'm sorry but she comes across as pathetic, trying to be ageless, trying to be relevant, just trying too hard. And yes, I feel exactly the same about men who date women who are 30 plus years younger.
What I find interesting about this is that often there is disapproval for much younger couples where the age gap is tiny, but apparently older women who date much younger men are OK. My son is 28 and I would be horrified if he dated a woman of Madonna's age. He really would be dating his mum.

Ach they aren’t dating in the true sense of the word. It’s all for show. Madonna has always courted controversy.

I think there’s a big difference between 20 and 28 though.

Cmon now. The woman is one ofthe most successful artists in the world. She can still sell out an arena. In seconds. She’s raised many children. Yes it’s shame she feels the need to alter herself and struggles with ageing , but she’s always courted controversy, she’s not dating these men, or shagging them. It’s just more controversy she outs out there,

to call her pathetic is just embarrassing , what have you achieved in comparison that you feel able to judge?

I can't stand Madonna's music. That's my opinion you are entitled to yours. It's not my style at all. If I can't judge then no one can judge anyone else. So most of these threads become redundant.
Whatever I have achieved isn't the subject is it?

Women really are women's worst enemy aren't they? This comment is a typical example. Why do people have to be so bitchy and try to knock successful women?

Good luck to her! She’s a strong, empowered woman who knows what she wants and gets it. Do I agree with everything she does? No. Does she give a shit? No! P

She’s managed to stay out of the alcohol/drugs/prescription drugs issues that plagued so many of her contemporaries too.

I wish people wouldn’t police others’ relationships. If both parties are of legal age and are entirely happy with the situation then i can’t see the problem. The ‘power imbalance’ that people so often refer to on here may not be the obvious one anyway - purely being younger doesn’t necessarily make one the vulnerable party.

There was a thread on mumsnet a few years ago about would you let your son date her. A lot of parents said yes as long as they treated it like a short term relationship as they would get to experience a fab time for the relationship period, going to fancy restaurants, flying private jet etc.

It looks to me like they're using each other. I very much doubt they'll still be together in 20 years time, madly in love. I'd be happy to be proved wrong though!

I absolutely agree! She doesn’t give a damn for what people think and she knows her behaviour will be viewed as disgraceful by many. What an excellent, strong woman
I really don't get this on MN. Everyday we get posts about how women are still being viewed in a poorer light than men, how there is still so much inequality, and how disgusting it is than men use their money and power to use vulnerable women.

I agree with the above, but not on the basis that the roles should be reversed, but that it is unacceptable to behave as such whatever sex you are.

Yet here we have women who are not supporting sex equality, but just applaud women who act as disgracefully as men, but who are praised as being strong and a role model.

I'm sorry but you are just as bad with this mindset as the men who think it's ok to use their power to their own kinky gains.

I haven’t had much time for her since that book of wank fodder she published back in the early 90s.

It wouid be a very boring world 🌎 if every 68 year old looked the same I love looking at dolly parton and Cher! Why should they change who they are to avoid criticism?? That's who dolly is a very glamorous well groomed tweeked queen! Why on earth should she fit into what YOU expect when it's her life/money/choice!

A lot of parents said yes as long as they treated it like a short term relationship as they would get to experience a fab time for the relationship period, going to fancy restaurants, flying private jet etc
And by default might even get to experience a bit of it themselves. Who cares that their self-esteem and self worth might get shattered in the process, as long as they get to have a taste of fancy life for some years.

I would never ever want this for my son and hope with all my heart that he values himself more than being used for the sake of fancy holidays, restaurants and limelight.

What age should we start to "act appropriately", to wear comfortable clothes, stop jumping about uncouthly and only use social media to follow our knitting groups?
(Asking for future reference)
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What, two grown up consenting adults in a relationship is disgusting now?

It wouid be a very boring world 🌎 if every 68 year old looked the same I love looking at dolly parton and Cher! Why should they change who they are to avoid criticism?? That's who dolly is a very glamorous well groomed tweeked queen! Why on earth should she fit into what YOU expect when it's her life/money/choice!
They are free to be who they want but providing themselves as role models, certainly not. They would be nobody but icons of history if it wasn't for the money they throw trying to stay in the limelight because they are desperate for the need to still be the centre of attention.

I admire stars who age naturally and gracefully and are pointed out very occasionally for doing so without caring how often they are being twitted. They know there is a time for everything and everyone.

I'm wondering what age people are suggesting you can't be taken advantage of lol 🤔 is it 40 now?

That's who dolly is a very glamorous well groomed tweeked queen! Why on earth should she fit into what YOU expect when it's her life/money/choice!

I agree! Dolly is fantastic, she's super honest about the fact she loves the way she looks and doesnt give a crap if others dont like it. She's one of the genuinely loveliest celebs I've ever seen interviewed, gives great life advice, and she gives away loads of money to help educate children with reading books.

She is one of my role models. I love her.

Exactly, WTF 😁

Dolly is a great role model to me 🙂 Has done so much for this world! Generous charitable and energetic I don't care what face lifts/liposuction was involved she's an icon and a superb human thats all that counts/matters.