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Was my husband unreasonable? Maintenance

254 replies

lifeuniverseeverything · 21/08/2024 19:52

My DD has a friend she's known since primary. This girl has lived at our house for months while her mum was travelling and they're inseparable. Both got into university.

Friend's parents are divorced. Acrimoniously. Her dad was supposed to pay maintenance and child support but his previously highly profitable company suddenly/ mysteriously found itself making no money so he's paid nothing.

Mum working 2 jobs hence the travel.

DDs friend gets a maintenance grant but not a full one because of her dad's previous income. Her mum is barely holding on so DH and I discussed things and decided to take both girls university shopping for stuff today, and we'd pay. Friend was very grateful and happy.

We stopped for a coffee (in a retail park) and who should park in a space in front of us but friend's dad and his new girlfriend. Anyway he sees DH (initially not me, DD or friend) and moseys on over to say hi. This is where the AIBU comes in. DH shook his hand, got introduced to the girlfriend and then said loudly "Very sorry to hear about the business failing. Must have been such a shock. Any time you fancy a pint (on me!) let me know. Also, don't worry about (friends name). We love her and are happy to get all her university stuff for her". Girlfriend froze, he froze, it was funny and awful at the same time, then he saw DDs friend and scarpered.

This is the was husband unreasonable question. Friend loves her dad. She hadn't seen him for ages and was really hurt when she saw him vanishing. I think DH should have just zipped it and perhaps he'd have stayed and spoken to his daughter who ended up quite upset.

DH is bullish and said "the man's a c*#t and I'm happy I embarrassed him".

OP posts:
NannyGythaOgg · 21/08/2024 23:18

Team DH.
Poor Kid but the person who donated sperm for her to be born is not her Dad. He is a sperm donor. If he behaves this way, it's shit for her but, why the hell should anyone else be held to account for showing up what a total shit he is. The sooner she realises this, the better.

6pence · 21/08/2024 23:19

I’m so hoping that the gf was in ignorance of his recently straightened circumstances, and if he then explains he’s fiddled the books and isn’t actually now poor, that she realised he’s a lying jackass.

NannyGythaOgg · 21/08/2024 23:20

lifeuniverseeverything · 21/08/2024 20:06

Oh. I I don't think I will show him this thread! He'll be insufferable.

The thing is other dads have met friends dad previously- he's still swanning round Richmond in nice pubs etc living in a flat his cousin apparently pays for. They've all been polite to his face and then bitched later. I just think DH should have put his bullishness away and thought about friend.

Nope. I agree with your husband ALL THE WAY.

TattoedLady · 21/08/2024 23:21

Another one for Team DH. He's a legend.
Hope friends father squirmed and felt deeply uncomfortable.

CatchHimDerry · 21/08/2024 23:27

Another vote for “go on DH”. These sort of people need their arse handing to them

Charliecatpaws · 21/08/2024 23:28

Team husband here sending a virtual high five. You sound like a fabulous family

StormingNorman · 21/08/2024 23:30

Every child with a shit dad needs someone like your DH in their corner!!! 👏👏👏

It was on friend’s dad to act like…erm…a responsible loving father. What he should have done is said “let me get everyone a coffee and I’ll of course reimburse you for DD’s university things when we sit down”. Then made a big fuss of his DD. You may not have wanted the money, but it would have meant the world to his daughter if he’d offered.

Globules · 21/08/2024 23:30

Go DH. He's a legend.

As are you for looking after the girl. What a wonderful pair you are.

Has Dad's income has been taken into account for her student loan as the parents were still together 2 years ago? My DDs student loan is solely based on my income, but my income from 2 years ago. XH's income has nothing to do with it.

It's definitely worth a call to the student loan company to see what can be done there.

Pacificisolated · 21/08/2024 23:31

Umbrellasinthesunshine · 21/08/2024 20:59

Only when men hold other men accountable for their behaviour in society will we move forward and raise our overall expectations for “absent” fathers. All hail your DH!! Legend in the making. And do show him this thread! Men need to understand how important it is to women that they bloody stand up for us against shitty shitbag men.

Exactly this. Men holding men accountable is the only way unfortunately. Your DH was absolutely correct in his approach.

Charliecatpaws · 21/08/2024 23:32

BTW if your DD friend only lives with her mother her fathers income should not be taken into consideration for the university maintenance grant, only her mothers income

csigeek · 21/08/2024 23:39

If he’s been fiddling his books to make his income appear a lot less to avoid maintenance that’s not all he’s been avoiding and it would be a crying shame if someone were to report that.

tolerable · 21/08/2024 23:43

takes "a village"hes the idiot. does friend know wtf got said tho?

lolit · 21/08/2024 23:53

It sounds like the guy is fiddling the books to avoid taking care of his dd financially. I mean seriously, living in a flat paid by his cousin my ass. Report the cunt

ClairDeLaLune · 21/08/2024 23:53

Your husband is AWESOME!!

Dibbydoos · 22/08/2024 00:12

OMG give your DH a hug high five! Well done him. He called out another man for failing to provide for his child and the AH deserved it.

I'm sorry his DD got upset but she needs to see the AH for what he is.

LittlePudding1 · 22/08/2024 00:30

Your DH is a hero

pikkumyy77 · 22/08/2024 01:58

I hope this will be a very formative and empowering moment for dd’s friend. The shame and secrecy of family finances is a terrible burden. A child can’t teally know what is fair or unfair and can’t easily ask. You and your dh are showing her that her father is in the wrong. Her rightful expectations are not met. But at least she isn’t wrong. I think thats invaluable.

ChristmasFluff · 22/08/2024 08:20

In the UK, maintenance grants are awarded based on only the resident parent's income, presumably because of situations like this.

They've filled out the forms wrongly.

Noshowlomo · 22/08/2024 08:58

Your DH is legend. If I was him I’d also follow up with an email or text to shit father to say “your daughter was gutted you ran off the other day, we didn’t know what to say to her. Again, hope all is ok, happy to step up and pay for bits as we know you’re skint at the mo, and it’s what fathers do”

lifeuniverseeverything · 22/08/2024 09:13

Thank you to all who commented. I did tell DH. He's pleased with himself and I've apologised for saying he should have zipped it.

Some developments last night. Husband called friends mum and had a go at her for badmouthing him to people! Seriously. You couldn't make it up. Anyway he then tried to use his upset at being badmouthed, alongside vague threats to "tell the children the truth" (what truth? He's delusional) to try and bully her into expediting the divorce and finalising the financial order later. It's taking a long time because she's had to hire someone to forensically look at his financial situation.

Anyway he was so weirdly insistent about getting divorced that she got off the phone and went all Poirot on his ass. Via another friend she found a screenshot from the girlfriend's social media ABOUT THEIR WEDDING at the end of the year. They've sent out save the dates and presumably paid deposits etc. His kids don't know. Anyway this is glorious m, as now she can insist on the financial order before the divorce, and if he wants his wedding he'll have to be a bit more amenable.

If he'd been less of a cock she'd never have found out...

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Cluborange666 · 22/08/2024 09:18

Your husband is great 🌟

Globules · 22/08/2024 09:41

Oh my word @lifeuniverseeverything .

What an update.

What a triumph for DH!

What a cock the Dad is

What power Mum now wields... 😁

What a sad revelation the poor child is going to have to hear soon 😔

This lass is so fortunate to have you and your very very D H around her to support her through this heartache. What is it about some men, who are so bloody selfish in tossing their kids aside when they leave their wives? Bastard.

cstaff · 22/08/2024 09:53

I love how your Dh was quite discreet and not "calling him out" i.e. shouting the odds at him about being a shit Dad but actually feeling sorry for him and offering to help along with a free pint. The shit dad must have been mortified. Hilarious.

CowTown · 22/08/2024 09:55

lifeuniverseeverything · 22/08/2024 09:13

Thank you to all who commented. I did tell DH. He's pleased with himself and I've apologised for saying he should have zipped it.

Some developments last night. Husband called friends mum and had a go at her for badmouthing him to people! Seriously. You couldn't make it up. Anyway he then tried to use his upset at being badmouthed, alongside vague threats to "tell the children the truth" (what truth? He's delusional) to try and bully her into expediting the divorce and finalising the financial order later. It's taking a long time because she's had to hire someone to forensically look at his financial situation.

Anyway he was so weirdly insistent about getting divorced that she got off the phone and went all Poirot on his ass. Via another friend she found a screenshot from the girlfriend's social media ABOUT THEIR WEDDING at the end of the year. They've sent out save the dates and presumably paid deposits etc. His kids don't know. Anyway this is glorious m, as now she can insist on the financial order before the divorce, and if he wants his wedding he'll have to be a bit more amenable.

If he'd been less of a cock she'd never have found out...

Oh dear. When’s the wedding? He’s cutting it tight!

FarewellMsSorrow · 22/08/2024 10:13

Whoops. That's glorious, he really doesn't know when to stop digging.

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