To be so fucking angry. How many more women and children must die?

[Kianai]

I'd almost become numb to it, with all the news so far this year.

Murder after murder of women and their children. Noone ever seeming to link the common denominator. NAMALT.

This latest one today, I feel like something is beginning to snap inside me. Three babies and a young woman dead, because of a fucking man. Again. And again.

news.sky.com/story/police-launch-murder-investigation-after-woman-and-three-children-die-in-house-fire-in-bradford-13200678

Jess Phillips MP has been appointed as a minister, leading on safeguarding and violence against women & girls. She has her work cut out.

I am also sick of the way violence against women it is reported.

Even in the Metro yesterday there was a headline that started “Jilted boyfriend charged with stalking and harassment”

Just the inclusion of the word “jilted” points towards the idea that there was a tiny bit of justification for this behaviour (he was upset/devastated at being “jilted”).

It is men killing, raping and terrorising women. They are not “jealous boyfriends” driven to this. Or “obsessive” husbands. Or “failed businessmen”

Just men.

I just saw this too and wondered if anyone had started a thread on here. Another woman and three kids. Shocking.

I was reading about the background to Emma Pattison and her daughter Lettie the other day as well and see that she was planning to leave her husband, so he killed her. Yet another example of a woman being in danger when she is planning to leave.

Totally agree. This is getting noticed and something has to give soon. I have never seen it so bad.

I agree. Reclaim Our Homes, I think. Fucking bastard, I saw the headline and knew what it would be.

Until it does when it's their own wife or daughters or sister.

Like the crossbow case.

And the little girls in Southport had dads, uncles, brothers etc as well.

They are very short-sighted if they think it can't affect them. They may not be the ones killed but they can be affected.

It's terrible and yes @Tootingbec the mainstream media don't help. They always report that the men are loving husbands and fathers, nice caring guys. They aren't. They are killers.

Didn't they try to make mysogyny a hate crime a couple of years ago, which would have had criminal implications for 'low level' abuse, but it didn't go through house of lords, prob because every man would end up with a criminal record. The new home secretary is proposing it to be treated as terrorism and i doing if will ever be. Every man, even the 'good' ones, benefits from women being scared of being hurt and abused, so why would the ever vote against their self interest.

And for every woman who posts on here about being in an abusive relationship there's a dozen very happily telling her that they have never had this experience and all the men they know are decent, so NAMALT!!!

The UK is not a safe place

And do you think a murderer would stop murdering because people are striking?

The police still don't take it remotely seriously.

One of my daughters was assaulted last year in her workplace by her ex.

There was CCTV. There were 6 witnesses (including 3 members of the public, so not just her colleagues so no "well her friends will say whatever she tells them" type defence). He was arrested previously for damaging her car.

My DD was still bloody asked if she was "very sure" she wanted to put everything down the official route because of the "long lasting consequences" (he's likely to lose his job if convicted) in a conversation with two police officers.

It turned out he had history with previous partners.

I'm incredibly angry too, whenever you hear news that a woman and two children have died you know that it's only a matter of time until they say a man has been arrested.
With the horrific Southport murders people were up in arms because of the colour of his skin and the fact his parents were immigrants, nobody said it was yet another case of male violence against women and girls he caught a taxi to a yoga studio hosting a Taylor Swift event knowing it would be women and girls, he didn't just flip and stride into a football training camp where it would be men and boys.

I have two young daughters and am terrified about the world they are growing up in, they're at risk being in a relationship with a man and at risk when they break up.

There will be more outrage at the breaking news that a man has been killed by his XL than 'just another dead woman'

I would march with you for that. I'm so fucking sick of this shit.

Good christ. The utter bastards.

Am so very sorry @ARichtGoodDram.

They aren't even men they are literally chimpanzees

So just a tick short of 1/5 attributable to women.

Therefore just a tick over 4/5 committed by men.

That is just over 80%.

So while it's not a man every single time, it would be an extremely safe bet.

As opposed to the way women are portrayed the rare times they kill, as shown further up in the link about Evil mums.

Men are always “family man”, “pillar of the community”, or some other twaddle. Stop making excuses for the vile men of the world.

Agree.

Terms like vicious abuser, dangerous coward, and entitled loser need to be used a lot more.

It’s relentless and soul destroying, day after day after day

Having a female Home Secretary I hope is a start, though the justice system is broken and will take a long time to fix.

That is minimising what such men are.

@user30

There is nearly always a backstory with female family killers. In the case you show, the father of her children was her half brother .What sort of abuse had she endured, I wonder? Many of the women kill children with special needs whom they have been left to care for unsupported; most attempt ( and often succeed ) to kill themselves as well. Several of the survivors have been declared unfit to plead , and in given the desire of society to punish women for being ‘bad mothers’ that speaks volumes as to their mental state.