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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 20:07

I recently had a HV come round. She appeared a little rigid and looked like she was attending a wedding but she seemed chatty and reflected back lots of positive things she was seeing. Today I had a SW unexpectantly visit and after she read out everything that the HV had raised, to say I was shocked is an understatement. Both my DH were there and the HV literally fabricated and misrepresented things she saw. The SW was lovely and stated she had no concerns and let me know I could make a complaint (I have).

So WTF! I'm still in shock. The HV asked me at the time whether I wanted another visit and I said no, and then SS turn up!

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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:30

Ivehearditbothways · 20/08/2024 21:23

Why are you still allowing health visitor into your home for home visits when your child is about to turn 4? Did you ask for extra support or something?
They don’t need to come by to weigh them or anything by that age. And if you have any concerns or need an appointment or help with something, you can call them up. There is no reason for a 4 year old old to need a home visit unless you’ve been asking for them?

Its part of the checks they do in this area - pre school visits.

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YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 20/08/2024 21:32

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:30

Its part of the checks they do in this area - pre school visits.

Are you outside the UK? You say she just turned 4 wouldnt she be going into Reception not pre-school

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:32

takeyourluckwhereyoufindit · 20/08/2024 21:25

Also, can you explain the bit where you said the HV "looked like she was attending a wedding".

I know you're all for metaphor, but I'm neurodivergent and really struggling to understand your post when you don't just say what actually happened. That's not a dig, I'm just asking you to consider a range of readers for your post.

She looked lovely but ‘posh’ and I remember thinking at the time how this could come across given her job. She works with vulnerable people and obviously isn't self aware in how she could come across? I wouldn't say she was ‘warm’.

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DreamTheMoors · 20/08/2024 21:32

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:10

My daughters aninal behaviour was regarded as abnormal, including how she spoke (she’ll imitate animals sound). As the SW observed my daughter more she saw a decline in this otherwise innocent behaviour.behavioir that doesn't interfere with her everyday activities, sleep etc. SW stated she didn't have concerns about this behaviour. The HV should have known this, yet regarded it as abnormal (incorrect and used this as evidence?

It’s a shame the HV isn’t coming back.
You and your husband and daughter could all bark and meow and quack at her and give her the full animal treatment.

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:34

takeyourluckwhereyoufindit · 20/08/2024 21:24

I had no idea HVs visited four year olds. How did that come about?

Fyi

hduhb.nhs.wales/healthcare/services-and-teams/health-visiting/

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Staunchlystarling · 20/08/2024 21:35

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:32

She looked lovely but ‘posh’ and I remember thinking at the time how this could come across given her job. She works with vulnerable people and obviously isn't self aware in how she could come across? I wouldn't say she was ‘warm’.

It’s ok to be posh though? I mean you can’t criticise someone for their class.

takeyourluckwhereyoufindit · 20/08/2024 21:35

I'm further confused. So you won't tell us what happened for confidentiality, but you've shared the Health Board the HV works for and given a description of her dress and demanour?

WhompingWillows · 20/08/2024 21:35

takeyourluckwhereyoufindit · 20/08/2024 21:29

This is baffling. What's the correlation between predicted English GCSE grades and pretending to be a cat?

The thread is bonkers.

No, it really isn’t. Animal noises can be part of an autistic child’s vocal stimming.

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:36

WhompingWillows · 20/08/2024 21:27

Oh god, is your daughter in her ‘cat’ phase?! If so you have my every sympathy. Been through this twice with two DDs. Elder one 16 now and predicted 9s in English in her GCSEs and younger now eight and at greater depth for all her Y3 subjects. I will just say that both of them are now diagnosed with autism and ADHD. We do not and have never owned cats or any other pets.

Omg yes!

When the HV was here I spoke about possible autism which I've already referred her for. So my daughters cat like behaviour was seen and reported as abnormal with an insinuation that we encourage it!

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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:36

@YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer

Pre school as in before entering school.

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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:37

fatphalange · 20/08/2024 21:30

The SW presented you with a list of concerns ('insinuations' no less- very strange) as opposed to making their own observation? And then shared her opinion about the Hv with you?
All of this is very odd! Why did the HV even visit in the first place?

hduhb.nhs.wales/healthcare/services-and-teams/health-visiting/

Recently relocated to wales

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whyNotaNice · 20/08/2024 21:37

I'm glad you posted it. Let England knows vile people work in that field and be on their guard.

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:38

@PatchTheGiantStuffedDog well done you for probably shitting down the other thread. Yes I commented on that thread too. Pure coincudence. I'm wondering whether you are also prone to unnecessary escalation of things?

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takeyourluckwhereyoufindit · 20/08/2024 21:38

Well, I vote you ABU for being so shady here about what actually happened.

HTH.

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:39

fatphalange · 20/08/2024 21:30

The SW presented you with a list of concerns ('insinuations' no less- very strange) as opposed to making their own observation? And then shared her opinion about the Hv with you?
All of this is very odd! Why did the HV even visit in the first place?

She read out the concerns.

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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:39

@DreamTheMoors

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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:41

@Staunchlystarling

The issue is she works in a role where she works with vulnerable people. People need to be able trust her, of course she can dress smart, but approachability etc matters. She literally looked like she was going to a wedding.

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minipillquestions · 20/08/2024 21:41

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:16

The SW was pretty good tbh and although she couldnt pull up the HV actions as rubbish (not very professional) she commented that what had been written down was not evidenced in person.onviouslt shell have to do the lateral checks but she stated shell do this asap and then I can have a copy. She reiterated during the visit that she had no concerns and reminded me that I could make a complaint (which I already have).

Professionals will never support a complaint against each other if safeguarding is concerned as they want to protect (rightly) anyone in future making a referral - they’d rather have hundreds of referrals that lead nowhere than to put someone off making the one that matters so nothing ever comes of these kind of situations it’s all just case closed we had to follow procedure kind of attitude, which I feel is probably the only way and as long as social workers are well trained and experienced should always work out fine as they know what’s a genuine concern and what isn’t.
You can’t have people scared to report concerns that’s the bottom line so unfortunately this kind of mistake will happen when the net is cast wide.

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:42

@takeyourluckwhereyoufindit

If you can find her from this then ill eat my hat!

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sectionscarhelp · 20/08/2024 21:42

I was pregnant with my second child. A HV come round to do their standard pregnancy visit, she said she could see a mark on my then 13 month old DD's face, it was a spot. She actually got her fucking phone out and used the torch on her face to look at it clearly, I then pointed out it was a spot and she agreed. A few minutes later she said she thought she could see a mark elsewhere on her face. Unbelievable. At this point I was fuming and made it clear there was nothing to see. She ended the visit positively, said she could see I was a good mum and she had no concerns. As soon as she left I rang my mum crying my eyes out.
Ever since I've been so anxious about any professional, I have absolutely nothing to hide but it's no wonder some people withdraw from these services. She was actively looking for bruises in front of me with no reasoning what so ever.

Dodo23 · 20/08/2024 21:42

YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 20/08/2024 21:32

Are you outside the UK? You say she just turned 4 wouldnt she be going into Reception not pre-school

You do realise that there are four countries within the UK? Her thread makes perfect sense in Scotland. Home visits until she 5 I believe and plenty of kids go to preschool/nursery until their 5 depending on their birth date. Reception is an English thing as far as I'm aware.

JudgeJ · 20/08/2024 21:42

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 20:17

I don't want to say exactly but imagine you had a lego set for London bridge, this hv built the taj Mahal and the solar system.

Not only did she have the gall to sit in my front room regailing her experiences of other visits (negative ones), she reflected back some lovely things she was seeing with my child. Along the lines of ‘its so nice when I come to a visit where ‘insert positive remark’.

The downright lies this HV has stated will be corroborated with the lateral checks that the SW now needs to do.

This isn't about having a low threshold for safeguarding but its displaying no ability to adequately assess a situation and then when she did refer, no process was followed!

Record every word of any future visits and even set up cameras for evidence.

IntrepidCat · 20/08/2024 21:42

My five year old frequently pretends to be a cat.

Dodo23 · 20/08/2024 21:43

Dodo23 · 20/08/2024 21:42

You do realise that there are four countries within the UK? Her thread makes perfect sense in Scotland. Home visits until she 5 I believe and plenty of kids go to preschool/nursery until their 5 depending on their birth date. Reception is an English thing as far as I'm aware.

God, ignore my typos please!

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:43

@takeyourluckwhereyoufindit

And just checked this isn't the right area in wales. She works elsewhere.

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