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SS visited today

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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 20:07

I recently had a HV come round. She appeared a little rigid and looked like she was attending a wedding but she seemed chatty and reflected back lots of positive things she was seeing. Today I had a SW unexpectantly visit and after she read out everything that the HV had raised, to say I was shocked is an understatement. Both my DH were there and the HV literally fabricated and misrepresented things she saw. The SW was lovely and stated she had no concerns and let me know I could make a complaint (I have).

So WTF! I'm still in shock. The HV asked me at the time whether I wanted another visit and I said no, and then SS turn up!

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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:20

Hillsmakeyoustrong · 20/08/2024 22:14

Well my 7 yr old DD is often scurrying around on all fours pretending to be a dog. I'm glad to say that she stopped sniffing our dogs' bums some time ago and seems to be gradually becoming human again (we have wondered about autism tbh and her twin brother is awaiting assessment.) Anyway, It's very unnerving when people in authority are incompetent or make incorrect judgements as the consequences can be significant, incredibly stressful. We had a horrible encounter with the police a couple of years ago and it's completely eroded our trust in them. We made a formal complaint which didnt go anywhere but I'd say make one regardless.

Im so sorry. The crux of what you've gotten at so much more succinctly than I have, is at the heart of the confusion and anger I have been left with today. A decision has been made and it was totally not required.

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Myserenebird123 · 20/08/2024 22:23

@sotiredandconfused are you or your OH neuro diverse yourselves ?

Nadeed · 20/08/2024 22:23

IrisPallida · 20/08/2024 22:18

What do you mean you agree? OP hasn't said what she was wearing or what OP would consider as 'comfortable' clothing. So what are you agreeing with?

That HVs should wear trackie bottoms and t shirts covered in shiny metallic stars rather than a skirt & jacket?

You dress appropriately for teh job. Dressing like you are going to a wedding when you are actually visiting families in a poor area is not dressing appropriately.

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:23

@IrisPallida

What you wear matters, and pretending it doesn't is baseless. In a profession where connection is key, dressing ‘fancy’, ‘posh’ etc will cause distress in some people who are feeling vulnerable. This will impact how the appointment/meeting goes. It can shut down people as they may feel judeged etc.

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Stresshead84x · 20/08/2024 22:23

Nadeed · 20/08/2024 22:12

I agree with you OP about the way the HV is dressed.

I too would raise concerns at a dad co sleeping with his 4 year old DD while the mum sleeps in a separate bed.

I don't think it's weird a child sleeping with their dad- if there are otherwise no concerns.

My house is like musical beds, some nights we're all in bed together other nights i end up in one bed with some kids, my oh in another with some of them. We just sleep anywhere to make sure we get the best sleep we can with restless little ones.

Janedoe82 · 20/08/2024 22:23

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:06

Another concern... Our daughter cosleeps with dad and I sometimes leave to sleep in the spare room. There was an insinuation because dad is a male and therefore a deviant. It was written and read in ‘that’ way. My DHs face fell, and all I could say to him was ‘im so sorry’.

What age is the child

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:24

Myserenebird123 · 20/08/2024 22:23

@sotiredandconfused are you or your OH neuro diverse yourselves ?

@Myserenebird123

Both of us neurodiverse.

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Gratchet · 20/08/2024 22:24

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:23

@IrisPallida

What you wear matters, and pretending it doesn't is baseless. In a profession where connection is key, dressing ‘fancy’, ‘posh’ etc will cause distress in some people who are feeling vulnerable. This will impact how the appointment/meeting goes. It can shut down people as they may feel judeged etc.

So what did she wear???

How can we agree or disagree, when you clearly have reasons to hate the woman (rightly or wrongly).

Facts please- what was the outfit?

Edingril · 20/08/2024 22:25

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:23

@IrisPallida

What you wear matters, and pretending it doesn't is baseless. In a profession where connection is key, dressing ‘fancy’, ‘posh’ etc will cause distress in some people who are feeling vulnerable. This will impact how the appointment/meeting goes. It can shut down people as they may feel judeged etc.

People feel judged because they chose to be if your posts are the way you react to HV and SS then I would not be surprised if you get more visits, maybe work on this first

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:25

Ok,

Outfit.

White heels.
White fitted dress with floral pattern, like a satinmatetial?

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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:27

@Edingril

I was open with both. SW openly stated she had no concerns but she would still have to do lateral checks. SW hhas disagreed on HV opinions.

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Perpetuallydaisy · 20/08/2024 22:27

While the OP's experience wrt London Bridge and the Taj Mahal sounds bizarre and stressful, I just want to balance the view of health visitors in general with my really good experience.

We were unfairly reported to social services (who then apologised and asked if we wanted to make a complaint) when I was pregnant. Our health visitor was amazingly supportive, wrote to SS standing up for us, visited regularly and helped us through the process.

Not to invalidate others' experiences, as it's true there are unprofessional professionals in any profession, however good/mad at lego! Just to say some are lovely people and great at their jobs, too.

againtomorrow · 20/08/2024 22:28

i agree that a 4 year old girl should not be left to sleep alone with dad, why does the OP move to a different bed, why can't dad go?

Nadeed · 20/08/2024 22:29

Stresshead84x · 20/08/2024 22:23

I don't think it's weird a child sleeping with their dad- if there are otherwise no concerns.

My house is like musical beds, some nights we're all in bed together other nights i end up in one bed with some kids, my oh in another with some of them. We just sleep anywhere to make sure we get the best sleep we can with restless little ones.

It does not automatically mean anything. But OP talked about her DP co sleeping with her DD while she sleeps in a separate bed. She did not talk about musical beds. It is an unusual set up for a 4 year old to sleep with their dad and the mother to sleep in a separate bed.

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:29

againtomorrow · 20/08/2024 22:28

i agree that a 4 year old girl should not be left to sleep alone with dad, why does the OP move to a different bed, why can't dad go?

I have a neurological condition and I take meds which cause sedation.

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Myserenebird123 · 20/08/2024 22:29

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:24

@Myserenebird123

Both of us neurodiverse.

This may be part of it tbh and could be where some of the miscommunication arose. I have a family member who has been in situations with health professionals that arose because they didn’t have an understanding of her communication style and that she reacts in a particular way when feeling anxious.

Expatfamily · 20/08/2024 22:30

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:32

She looked lovely but ‘posh’ and I remember thinking at the time how this could come across given her job. She works with vulnerable people and obviously isn't self aware in how she could come across? I wouldn't say she was ‘warm’.

‘Dressed for a wedding‘ made me picture Bridget Jones’s mum wearing this outfit/hat with a clipboard.

funny enough there’s not too many images of Bridget Jones’s mum wearing this hat on the internet.

SS visited today
TwigletsAndRadishes · 20/08/2024 22:30

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:04

I've given a few examples but I will not list all the bogus ‘comcerns’ she raised.

Then I will have to conclude that they were probably not bogus at all.

againtomorrow · 20/08/2024 22:30

i just googled what a lateral check was;

In the UK, health professionals may perform "lateral checks" when they have safeguarding concerns about a child. These concerns may include:

The child has not attended appointments on two or more consecutive occasions

A third-party organization requests a lateral check

if the SW had no concerns why do they need to do lateral checks?

offyoujollywelltrot · 20/08/2024 22:30

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 20:17

I don't want to say exactly but imagine you had a lego set for London bridge, this hv built the taj Mahal and the solar system.

Not only did she have the gall to sit in my front room regailing her experiences of other visits (negative ones), she reflected back some lovely things she was seeing with my child. Along the lines of ‘its so nice when I come to a visit where ‘insert positive remark’.

The downright lies this HV has stated will be corroborated with the lateral checks that the SW now needs to do.

This isn't about having a low threshold for safeguarding but its displaying no ability to adequately assess a situation and then when she did refer, no process was followed!

This makes absolutely no sense.

Appledoughnut · 20/08/2024 22:30

Nadeed · 20/08/2024 22:29

It does not automatically mean anything. But OP talked about her DP co sleeping with her DD while she sleeps in a separate bed. She did not talk about musical beds. It is an unusual set up for a 4 year old to sleep with their dad and the mother to sleep in a separate bed.

This is mostly because dad's are crap though, not because all the ones that do step up are abusive.

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:30

@Myserenebird123

I think you've made a valid point.

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Janedoe82 · 20/08/2024 22:31

Just to play devils advocate as this is my field of work- there are lots of crap social workers too. Wouldn’t assume that as the SW disagreed she is the reliable professional. Lots comes down to experience and we aren’t being told what the raised concerns or reason for referral are.

Nadeed · 20/08/2024 22:32

Appledoughnut · 20/08/2024 22:30

This is mostly because dad's are crap though, not because all the ones that do step up are abusive.

Or both parents would both co -sleep with their DD.

againtomorrow · 20/08/2024 22:32

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:29

I have a neurological condition and I take meds which cause sedation.

in my eyes thats even worse, you are stone cold asleep sedated by drugs... so you wouldnt know all was well with adult male and girl child in bed together