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To be sad about never having grandkids

236 replies

Jjiillkkf · 19/08/2024 17:12

Aibu reasonable to find it sad that none of my children will have any of their own?

OP posts:
backspace2 · 19/08/2024 21:55

Its absolutely fine to be sad about it! I think as long as you accept the choices your kids made then how you feel about it is your business and allowing yourself to feel sad and grieve is probably the best path to acceptance. I chose not to have kids and I am happy with my choice, I don't want to be a mum but I sometimes still feel sad about it and sad that my parents won't be grandparents. Such is the complexity of human life and emotion.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 19/08/2024 22:00

Jjiillkkf · 19/08/2024 20:30

Yes, very much this is the perspective I need to focus on, it's very true.

My daughters are the two older ones, I suspect they may have wanted children but unstable relationships and partners inflexibility have to some extent contributed I think. Its a remote possibility my son will that's true. Partly my grief is for them, to potentially find themselves very alone in late life but of course that could happen to any one of us.

I have thought of volunteering at a play group or something, many of my friends go with their grandchildren but it feels like an odd thing to do without my own. Perhaps that's ridiculous and I should consider it more seriously.

Thank you for your kind responses.

Do you have Home Start in your area? You may be able to volunteer to help a young family.

https://www.home-start.org.uk/

Home-Start UK

Home-Start is a local community network of trained volunteers and expert support helping families with young children through their challenging times. We are there for parents when they need us the most because childhood can’t wait.

https://www.home-start.org.uk

sunnydayhereandnow · 19/08/2024 22:02

Just to say, please do volunteer! I’m a single mum with no local family, and two women with no grandkids have really been a godsend for me and my son, so he gets to have “grandparent” experiences and there is someone who can pick him up or babysit here and there - and meanwhile my son takes the pressure off their own kids who don’t currently have kids, and provides a welcome distraction when life is stressful. There are so many kids and families out there who would love an adoptive grandparent.

RampantIvy · 19/08/2024 22:05

HisNameWasFelix · 19/08/2024 19:57

This comment nails it for me.

And me.

I had DD late in life and love her to bits, but my life isn't better now, just different.

She is adamant that she doesn't want children, and I'm fine with that.

I don't understand women who would be heartbroken not to be grandparents. They have had their children. It's time to move on. Whether their children want children or not is none of their business.

HairyToity · 19/08/2024 22:17

You never know, my cousin became a dad at 51.

BlackShuck3 · 19/08/2024 22:21

I don't think I'm likely to be a grandparent, neither of mine seem interested and time will run out for them soon.
My parents became grandparents when they were 44. I'm not sure if I'd fancy becoming a grandparent at that age if I'm honest, I was still 'having it large' and being extremely irresponsible😬

junebirthdaygirl · 19/08/2024 22:23

Sometimes we have a fantasy about grandkids that may be far from the reality. Kids can live abroad and we see them once a year or as we see here we are not allowed see them for 3 weeks after their born or the other gp is totally involved and we are brushed off. Or we end up minding them and are totally exhausted.
I have one gd who is an absolute joy but she has her own busy life and l have mine. I love her dearly but her life is with her own family and l enjoy the times we have together.
My dm spent her first part of life worrying about all her dc and then the next section worrying about all the gc she got. There was always something happening. I am a great believer in living your own life.
Grieving and then accepting is probably best .

Madeinsuffolk · 19/08/2024 22:30

What about volunteering for a charity that supports mums with newborns. I had twins and lost the plot. A lovely lady would come weekly just for an hour. Sometimes she just held a baby, another time me, sometimes she would take my other child to the park. It’s called home start uk. Good luck. You have so much to give.

ZippyKoala · 19/08/2024 22:31

Just come to echo what others have said - please do volunteer!! I have worked in schools and for several charities who all use volunteers, including older folks, to work with children who really need them. There are a lot of children out there sad that they will never have grandparents who you could be a blessing for! It is definitely not weird to volunteer without having young kids/grandkids yourself. Best of luck x

Madeinsuffolk · 19/08/2024 22:31

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 19/08/2024 22:00

Do you have Home Start in your area? You may be able to volunteer to help a young family.

https://www.home-start.org.uk/

Yes. This. I just suggested the same.

WinterParty · 19/08/2024 22:34

Jjiillkkf · 19/08/2024 17:12

Aibu reasonable to find it sad that none of my children will have any of their own?

No, you’re not being unreasonable. Your feelings are your feelings and you are entitled to feel that way.

I’m not understanding replies about helping in schools listening to children read?
How could that possibly make up for not having any grandchildren I’ll never quite understand.

I’ll never be a grandparent either and it’s sad. I’m working on keeping myself busy now so when friends’ children start with babies, I’ll be focussed on other things.

SamPoodle123 · 19/08/2024 22:35

You never know what may happen. My ds met her dh when he was 45 and they now have 2 dc. Although, yes as time goes by, the chances get smaller.

Oldseagull · 19/08/2024 22:39

Of course it is fine to be sad. It's the norm to have grandchildren, and the breaking of a line that has passed down since humans began. Biologically speaking, it was the whole point of having children.

I understand people who feel relief that they won't have to worry about any hypothetical grandchildren living in such a fucked up world, but don't let others guilt you for feeling a very understandable sadness about what might not be.

GrannyWeatherwaxsHatpin · 19/08/2024 22:44

Jifmicroliquid · 19/08/2024 19:21

There are plenty of other ways to live a fulfilled life.
I am sick of people implying that people who choose not to have children (or can’t have children) are not living a fulfilled life.
It seriously grates.

Absolutely. All this stuff about materialism, “living too much in the moment”, regret and lack of fulfilment is so fucking patronising and offensive.

AcrossthePond55 · 19/08/2024 22:48

@Jjiillkkf

I hear you. Our DS1 has always said he doesn't want DC and we see no sign of change at almost 40. DS2 early 30s really hasn't said much one way or the other. He's painfully shy and has just embarked on a new relationship but is the type to take it at glacial pace so who knows. At any rate, DH and I have 'painfully' put that dream away. There's no sense in pining for something you have no control over.

And of course we'd never dream of saying anything. I'm sure they both 'know' we would have liked DGC, but we never mention it.

Instead, we're enjoying traveling and spending money on ourselves that we'd probably otherwise spend on grandchildren.

Zow · 19/08/2024 22:58

@DancingLions

People often say Grandparents get all the good bits and get to hand them back. But they are also at the whim of the actual parents! They still have all the worries about their GC while at the same time none of it being within their control. What I've seen of it, I'm not sure I want! Of course if I had a GC I would love them dearly but I'm just as happy without.

This is pretty much how I feel. I have seen many an older person - like me - have grandkids dumped on them left right and centre.

Another cousin of mine who is 3 years older than me, got married at 17 to a man of 19, and had 3 kids when she was between 18 and 23, (2 boys first at 18 and 20 - then a girl at 23.) At 24 she took the little girl and ran off with another man (and she announced on leaving that he was the father of the little girl.) Her husband was stunned and so was the whole family. He worked full time and plain and simple couldn't cope on his own with the boys. He told my aunt he was going to put them into care. (Cousin was a full time SAHM.)

My aunt) who was 52 ended up having to look after them. She didn't want social services involved (and didn't want to lose the boys,) so she took them in. Looked after them for FIVE YEARS whilst my cousin lived the life of Riley with her new man and their daughter. This man then left her and the little girl (she was 6 by now,) and moved in with another woman. Cue my cousin and her daughter moving in with my aunt and 2 sons who she had left. (Her DH had divorced her by then.) She was housed by the council shortly after, met another man within a year - and had 3 kids with him all within 5 years. Split when the youngest was 5. My aunt spend her 60s and 70s looking after my cousin's children 80% of the time they weren't at school!

The fact my cousin had fucked off for 5 years and abandoned her sons and dumped them on nana was never mentioned again.

But yeah tl;dr, some grandparents can - and DO end up getting used. Many grandparents get used as free childcare. I sometimes suspect that being a grandparent isn't the rosy, shiny, painting it's portrayed as. Despite all the vom-worthy 'my grandchildren are the best/my world/my everything' type shite you read from people on facebook. And the hilariously cringeworthy posts that say they wish they'd had their grandchildren first (as they prefer them to their children clearly LMFAO!)

I also have a pretty strong feeling somehow, that despite all the suggestions aimed at the OP to volunteer to work with children - and with single mums who are struggling etc - that she won't do it. She won't offer to volunteer anywhere.

FortyFacedFuckers · 19/08/2024 23:19

I totally understand why you feel sad, I will feel the same if my DS decides not to have children.
My Ds is 18 now and when he was young I really really wished he had a dotting grandparent who really wanted to enjoy him and always had a fleeting thought of how good it would be to match people who wanted grandchildren with children/mums who would have greatly benefited from that grandparent role!

Hibernating80 · 19/08/2024 23:23

I would be sad to.

Definitely give volunteering a go. The groups will probably be very glad to have your time and passion for kids. Otherwise look at opportunities for mummy's help or I think there are social service programmes where one takes kids out to give the parents a break. That way the kid is also dependent on you growing a more longstanding relationship.

If I don't have grandkids (due to mine not wanting them rather than infertility) then I'd hope to see it as an opportunity for me to help other children.

InevitableNameChanger · 19/08/2024 23:30

I'd love it to be normal for "grandparent type" relationships to be formed. My parents live far away and when I split with my (abusive) ex I would have loved a bit of grandparenting, and so would my children

Growing up we did see a fair bit of one set of grandparents (the others lived abroad) and our next door neighbours became our bonus grandparents and it was so lovely. They loved chatting to us and treating us and we continued to see them regularly as teens and young adults (until they both died). They didn't have children or grandchildren of their own but had a handful of children like us that they took a huge interest in. They also had lots of interesting and fulfilling hobbies once they retired, so they had a very full life and I loved chatting to them. They both did degrees during their retirement and travelled to all sorts of interesting places. I hope I love to have a retirement like that

Tangerinenets · 19/08/2024 23:36

None of my children want children of their own. I don’t blame them and am not sad in the slightest. Of course that may change their minds but I think they’re very sensible not to bring kids into this crazy world,

KimberleyClark · 19/08/2024 23:45

WestwardHo1 · 19/08/2024 20:44

Both my children live abroad. They don't want children. I have 8 step grandchildren but I will never have a biological one. I feel your pain. It's utterly heartbreaking

If your hypothetical GC lived abroad you would very rarely see them anyway. Would that utterly break your heart too?

I see a lot of this yearning and almost entitlement for GC from people who know they messed up parenting and want another go. I'm not saying that's you of course.

I think you also see it from people who have been SAHM for all or most of their children’s lives and as the children become adults and no longer need them in the same way there is a void which can only be filled by grandchildren.

AnnieMay55 · 19/08/2024 23:53

I also feel sad at probably never having any. You just get to a stage when everyone you know of a similar age have grandchildren. I feel my son would really have made a great father and likes children but his wife doesn't really want them. My daughter is single and 40. I really enjoyed becoming a mum and would hated to have missed out on it. You do feel it's the end of the family line which just feels strange. I was a nursery teacher so always worked with little ones and used to think of all the things I'd do with my grandchildren. Although people have suggested volunteering I don't think that would fill any void as they are not your family.

JudyJudeplusOne · 20/08/2024 00:05

I have two late teens who I adore. They're thriving in different ways, but are both neurodivergent and at least one is possibly gay.

I just want them to be happy. If they go on to have their own children then that would be lovely, but it's their own happiness I'm focused on, not their ability to produce grandchildren.

In fact I haven't given it much thought tbh.

TeaGinandFags · 20/08/2024 00:07

No one is entitled to grandchildren.

Just as there are many ways to become a parent, there are many ways to become a granny.

Think about what it is that you think you will miss out on, then find it elsewhere.

EsmeSusanOgg · 20/08/2024 06:57

Zow · 19/08/2024 18:53

How do you know your children will never have children @Jjiillkkf ???

I have 2 DC (both around 30,) one married, (2 and a half years now,) and one getting married in 2025, and both have said they're not sure if they want children, and are not in any hurry to have them! They said they have seen their once fearsome, bold, and ambitious professional friends have babies - and it's wrecked them.

All the kids are feral demons apparently LOL. I said 'well you two were fab kids and I never regretted a single second of having you, and neither did your dad! I'm sure any kids you have will be fine' I know a number of women who say the best thing they ever did in their life was having their kids. Clearly there are some women who regretted it though.

I think motherhood is what you make it, and the ones who struggle/struggled (IME and IMO,) are the ones who left it a little bit later (mid 30s+,) to have their first. They were feisty, professional, career women, and had total control of their lives and their careers, but couldn't control this tiny human they created, and it messed with their minds, and they couldn't cope. Many of them got back to work ASAP and passed the childcare onto a nanny or childminder. Quite a few of them regretted having a child for a while. (Some still do.)

I definitely don't regret having mine and wouldn't change a thing! Never been a professional though, had them both just before 30, and never been fussed about my job, or climbing the career ladder! Just a regular admin worker who has worked part time (18-20 hours a week,) since my children were born! My 2 DC are both well-educated professionals.

As for me, I really don't care that much if my DC don't have children. I will be happy if they do, and will love them to bits, but at the same time I'm not fussed if they have children. It's very hard to explain. Basically, it would be nice to have grandchildren, but also I am not going to be 'sad' or upset if I never have them!

I have said to my DC though, that if they DO decide to have them a bit later (like nearly 40 or something!) I will be around 70, and will be a lot less likely to be able to help them. I am 60-ish now, have moderate health issues, and struggle a bit with my mobility. I would be reasonably OK with babies/toddlers now - but in 10 years time (or even 5 or 6 years,) it will very likely be a different story.

I dunno, I had my two mid and late 30s. And I adore being a mum. A few friends who were on the fence about kids soon followed suit after our first, and also say it is the best thing they ever did. They are all still and were feisty career women.