JKR being uncharacteristically quiet

[Jdugsgsgwyd]

Anyone else noticed since the news that JKR is being sued by Imane Khelif she's been very quiet, unless I'm mistaken she's hasn't tweeted at all in about a week.

and hasn't responded at all to the legal action being taken against her. This is very unlike her, I'm thinking she's been advised by her lawyers to keep quiet. Anyone else think she might have put her foot in it this time?

What?! None of that makes any sense. At all.

Exactly. People can believe whatever they want to believe. People believe the Earth is flat, or that there is a God in Heaven etc. That's entirely their prerogative, but they have no right to insist others must agree with their belief.

And in 100 years time, if an archeologist happens to open up the grave of a trans woman, it won't matter if the headstone says 'Here lies Mary Jennifer Smith. RIP'. Because, with just one glance the archaeologist can identify the skeleton as that of a man. Doesn't matter what the trans woman believed, or felt. Or how many dresses and earrings they wore. Their skeleton proclaims them male.

Do you ever listen to yourself?

You nailed it Rufus.

And yes, there are plenty of male people claiming the label of 'female' too.

I am sure you remember McKinnon once declaring that they are recognised as being female by all those who use those female pronouns. And that they are 'female' and they are made of 'biological' matter so that they are a 'biological female' person as well.

AND McKinnon discussed this with the IOC in 2019 I believe as both a male athlete competing, by then, in female cycling categories, and as an academic extreme trans activist.

Note: I use extreme here because it fits the description of a group of activists that declare that some male people should be included in any or even most spaces that are designated for female people. Based on their philosophical belief that they are exactly like female people and should be treated as such.

But you are potentially misgendering people by calling them cis.

You know these things work both ways, right!?

So, you are supporting a male person who has been JK Rowling's abuser and you are telling us that she should show respect to her abuser? You are saying that she has shown 'needless cruelty' against a male person who had a history of abusing her.

And that her needless cruelty, was denying that male person's philosophical belief that they were a 'woman'.

By saying:

"When I was young all the football managers were straight, white, middle-
aged blokes, so it's fantastic to see how much things have changed."

https://archive.is/zRJ6m

Do you really have the depth of knowledge about what JK Rowling has said and done to be making judgements against her?

Do you understand the point that she was even making? That this male person had all the experience gained by opportunities open to them as a 'male person', and is now using that experience to claim renown as a male person who is now managing a female team.

Why is this something female people should celebrate? And why should any person support an abusive male person who is now managing a female team?

Can you explain why you support an abusive male person in this way, @Jdugsgsgwyd ?

As I said, we'll have to differ.

OK, so how can someone contemplating having their penis removed not know they are male?

Can you talk us through the thought process here?

I guess it depends on surgery. The transwoman I worked with had the 'Full Monty' including 'downstairs'.

Did they also have their pelvis widened so it could fit a baby's head through it?

There are plenty of women who can't manage the head through pelvis bit.

They still have a female pelvis and not a male one.

Having your penis removed might make you look less male but it doesn't make you look female.

Can you then explain exactly what made that male person any different to another male person who has had their penis and testicles removed due to disease or injury?

What specifically happens to the male body, when they have surgery 'downstairs' that makes them a 'woman'?

Or is your position that they are only ever a male person who has had extreme cosmetic modification to their body and that they are 'transwomen' but not women?

And then we are back to Chromosomes.

Yes.

I am one of those women. Still a woman, still a female and nothing like a male who has declared that they are a woman or declared that they are a female.

Your point is irrelevant.

I'm not getting any further into debate over what is, or is not, a trans person.

Another place I visit has over a thousand pages and fifteen thousand posts on exactly that point. Nobody is any further forward and it's just like a hamster wheel.

I'll agree to differ with you and would ask you to extend the same courtesy to me.

Remember ladies, trans women are women. Males with genetic issues are women. But you cunty XX types are cis women, not women. Know your place!

The reason nobody is any further forward is because Team Pronoun will never accept that humans can't change sex, and humans will never be able to change sex.

It is a 'hamster wheel' because you are here trying to convince others of your philosophical belief (ie. your use of 'cis') by attempting to portray that belief as materially objective.

Everyone knows what a trans person is.

What you appear to be having difficulty with is that transwomen are women. Which they are not. The only requirement to be a transwoman, is to be a man. The only thing. Vice versa for transmen. Your belief is not reality.

That really is the end of that debate.

It’s like belief in God and atheism- nobody can claim that they’re in the right because it’s a binary choice between believing or not and you can’t convince people with the opposite pov that they are wrong.

That.

Exactly.

Not really.

That is a description based on faith.

There is plenty of evidence that shows that people cannot change sex and that those who might have been incorrectly registered as female at birth but are proven to be male haven't changed sex either.

Human beings are either male or female and extreme cosmetic modifications don't change this. Neither does philosophical belief.

Unlike a belief in an omnipresent being which is never going to be provable due to the very nature of that being, being intangible and not materially objective.

It’s not. Whether or not you believe in a mythical figurehead (faith based) isn’t the same as acknowledging biological sex, which can’t be changed no matter if you believe that to be true or not. It can be debated until you’re blue in the face. This fact remains. You can’t argue with science.

Except that there is proof that men and women exist.
There is proof that men and women go through puberty and this has a massive effect on the human body.
and there is proof that there is such a thing as a DSD where a person with XY can outwardly present as being female.