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To tell DD she can't do it anymore?

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whatawickedgame · 17/08/2024 08:36

I genuinely don't know what to do about this, I feel terrible for even considering it.

DD (8) is a very good dancer and was invited onto her dance companies competitive team. She was thrilled and I was thrilled for her, she tries her very best. She is a competitive person by nature so she really likes doing it. She has classes 4 days a week. However, some of the classes start at 3:45pm (twice a week) and it's occurred to me that now I'm considering going back to work since DC has started school, I can't find a job that is flexible enough for my schedule for DD, even part time ones. I live in a relatively small town and jobs are really hard to get here, particularly part time ones. DD is theoretically tied into this team and these classes until she's 17. The classes don't get later as she gets older. She's only been doing all of these classes for a few weeks before the summer (and currently on break for the summer holidays) and loves it and I feel terrible for considering taking her out of it since I said she can do it, but I don't know how feasible it is for me to continue making this commitment. I cannot find a job that finishes before 5pm, which right now isn't an issue as I don't need to work this second, but eventually I do want to get back to work and I don't know how I'll be able to do both. There is another dance class in the area that we can get to, but it's one class a week and no competitions which is what DD is really excited for. DD doesn't do other clubs, it's just her dance but I don't know if it's feasible. Does anyone else have this kind of schedule and how do you make it work if you do? AIBU to think that it's maybe not feasible? I genuinely feel terrible Sad

OP posts:
MrsWombat · 17/08/2024 14:22

If DH could technically do it, then I would look at an Au Pair or after-school nanny from somewhere like Koru Kids and keep DH as backup for when the childcare falls through.

Dandelionsarefree · 17/08/2024 14:23

whatawickedgame · 17/08/2024 09:16

I understand people think that DH is being unreasonable, but he said don't do it, it's crazy, let her just do one or two classes for fun. One of the classes that DD does is also a class you can do for fun, that I could have opted her into that had a later start time. I promised I'd do all of the running about as he was very clear that, whilst he'd financially support it, he thought that it was too demanding. Plus if DD has a competition at a weekend, I wouldn't be able to work at the weekends as I'd need to take her to these.

OP tell your husband he needs to think ahead. Your daughter is now 8 but one day she will be a teenager. And this is exactly what makes a massive difference in teens.
My eldest DD15 trains also for a competitive sport, many hours a week.
It was and still is an absolute nightmare to bring her and her siblings to their clubs while working both of us full tome and also fitting everything else.
I cannot recommend more to encourage kids to do this.
My DD still loves competitions, has no interest in drinking, vaping and several ways of wasting her life. Her sport teched her to be organised with her time, have a good routine, try hard at everything etc. Her siblings also follow the same example and yes, we are wrecked but I think it's worth it.

Please talk to your husband and don't let him choose the easy route of taking her out of her club
The other club obviously won't be the same. Keep her motivation, it will pay off when she is older.

FlyLice · 17/08/2024 14:30

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 17/08/2024 10:34

Working to bring in an income to house/feed/clothe her etc is also important.

Yes, but my child’s future is more important (to me).

llamajohn · 17/08/2024 14:41

FlyLice · 17/08/2024 14:30

Yes, but my child’s future is more important (to me).

More important than feeding her??

Madamecholetsbonnet · 17/08/2024 14:43

FlyLice · 17/08/2024 14:30

Yes, but my child’s future is more important (to me).

OP has more than one child though and there will be a negative impact on the others if she chooses not to work so her DD can do a hobby.

blueshoes · 17/08/2024 14:44

FlyLice · 17/08/2024 14:30

Yes, but my child’s future is more important (to me).

Sheesh they are not mutually exclusive. How about taking a balanced perspective?

OP's dd's future is not doomed just because her mother did not take her to competitive dance classes when she was 8 years old.

AnywhereAnyoneAnyTime · 17/08/2024 14:45

Only on MN is a stepfather criticised for not looking after his wife’s children and going out of his way for them, whereas if the OP was the SM the response would be that they’re his children and he should be the one putting himself out for them.

Expatfamily · 17/08/2024 15:56

I’d get a job then work with the employer to have two early finishes.

Could always start a bit early each day to compensate or have shorter lunches.

Or, I’m sure there’s another parent who could help out or pay a teenager to walk with her. There’s options to explore before deciding to either not work or for her to quit dance.

Left · 17/08/2024 16:08

What sort of work experience do you have? And are you looking for roles that could be home based/hybrid?

Lots of parents I know structure their breaks on home-working days around school drop off and pick up times, maybe that sort of working pattern could suit you.

CurlewKate · 17/08/2024 18:51

@whatawickedgame
Is the dance company a reputable one? What do you know about the destination of its students? There are a lot of organisations involved in the performing arts for children that are basically money making opportunities......

foodforclouds · 17/08/2024 18:54

Ivehearditbothways · 17/08/2024 12:33

Well… this is a phenomenon which seems contained within mumsnet. Never in real life have I ever met a woman afraid to get in a taxi. Just like not answering the door, not going for walk through woodland. So I’ll stick with a real world approach rather than the mumsnet trope approach.

I’m glad for you that You’ve lived a sheltered life. Why do you think Uber etc have a “share my ride” button/option? It’s not for the fuck of it.
Ask the clients of that black cab driver, Worboys, whatever his name was.

foodforclouds · 17/08/2024 18:55

Dandelionsarefree · 17/08/2024 14:23

OP tell your husband he needs to think ahead. Your daughter is now 8 but one day she will be a teenager. And this is exactly what makes a massive difference in teens.
My eldest DD15 trains also for a competitive sport, many hours a week.
It was and still is an absolute nightmare to bring her and her siblings to their clubs while working both of us full tome and also fitting everything else.
I cannot recommend more to encourage kids to do this.
My DD still loves competitions, has no interest in drinking, vaping and several ways of wasting her life. Her sport teched her to be organised with her time, have a good routine, try hard at everything etc. Her siblings also follow the same example and yes, we are wrecked but I think it's worth it.

Please talk to your husband and don't let him choose the easy route of taking her out of her club
The other club obviously won't be the same. Keep her motivation, it will pay off when she is older.

This is a good point I hadn’t thought about

whatawickedgame · 17/08/2024 19:15

@CurlewKate in terms of the company's reputation, it's a local company for local children (there's nothing for you here); I'm fairly sure no one commutes especially for it. It doesn't produce students that go to prestigious schools or get scholarships etc.

OP posts:
Valeriekat · 17/08/2024 19:54

otravezempezamos · 17/08/2024 08:40

I think the issue is she can’t get her child there from school and kid can’t get there by herself.

Taxi!

otravezempezamos · 17/08/2024 19:58

Valeriekat · 17/08/2024 19:54

Taxi!

Yup. If they can afford it. Although sounds like it’s a case of father CBA to take her.

Pipsquiggle · 17/08/2024 20:02

whatawickedgame · 17/08/2024 19:15

@CurlewKate in terms of the company's reputation, it's a local company for local children (there's nothing for you here); I'm fairly sure no one commutes especially for it. It doesn't produce students that go to prestigious schools or get scholarships etc.

@whatawickedgame

I am going to sound harsh here and I am willing to be told I am wrong.
It sounds 4 days a week at a 'hobby' dance school is a bit overkill and will cause more aggro in the family unit than it will the overall betterment to your DD's ability.
If she's really good, she probably needs to go to a different dance school.
My friend's DD is genuinely very good at dance, her teacher has put her forward for auditions at various prestigious dance institutions, she passed and now has training once a week there. This is since she was 7/8.

I think if my DC was that good at something that required them to train 4 times a week, I would want them to show loads of potential and her teachers recognising their innate talent. Otherwise I would want them to do lots of different activities e.g weekly swimming lessons, brownies/ cubs, football..........

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 17/08/2024 20:04

otravezempezamos · 17/08/2024 19:58

Yup. If they can afford it. Although sounds like it’s a case of father CBA to take her.

Correction - The step father who will be leaving work early two days a week to collect and look after his step children cba

Kipperthedawg · 17/08/2024 20:09

whatawickedgame · 17/08/2024 19:15

@CurlewKate in terms of the company's reputation, it's a local company for local children (there's nothing for you here); I'm fairly sure no one commutes especially for it. It doesn't produce students that go to prestigious schools or get scholarships etc.

So the 'competitive' element is a load of rubbish then. It's a club that charges you to go each day to ensure they stay afloat but it's not really about being excellent at dance. It would be better, if she's serious about dance, to commute once a week to a more prestigious school.

blueshoes · 17/08/2024 20:32

Pipsquiggle · 17/08/2024 20:02

@whatawickedgame

I am going to sound harsh here and I am willing to be told I am wrong.
It sounds 4 days a week at a 'hobby' dance school is a bit overkill and will cause more aggro in the family unit than it will the overall betterment to your DD's ability.
If she's really good, she probably needs to go to a different dance school.
My friend's DD is genuinely very good at dance, her teacher has put her forward for auditions at various prestigious dance institutions, she passed and now has training once a week there. This is since she was 7/8.

I think if my DC was that good at something that required them to train 4 times a week, I would want them to show loads of potential and her teachers recognising their innate talent. Otherwise I would want them to do lots of different activities e.g weekly swimming lessons, brownies/ cubs, football..........

4 days a week at a hobby dance school (with endless classes, competitions, clothes, tickets and videos to buy) sounds like a way to rinse as much money out of unsuspecting parents with children as bait in the shortest possible time before their eyes are opened to what a con cult it all is.

The schools do this cynically knowing that the children will go no where with this circus, disregard the child's wellbeing and self-esteem, massively disrupt family life as well as drain family finances

Abouttimeforanamechange · 17/08/2024 20:39

Correction - The step father who is paying for the classes who will be leaving work early two days a week to collect and look after his step children cba

MoralOrLegal · 17/08/2024 20:40

Pipsquiggle · 17/08/2024 20:02

@whatawickedgame

I am going to sound harsh here and I am willing to be told I am wrong.
It sounds 4 days a week at a 'hobby' dance school is a bit overkill and will cause more aggro in the family unit than it will the overall betterment to your DD's ability.
If she's really good, she probably needs to go to a different dance school.
My friend's DD is genuinely very good at dance, her teacher has put her forward for auditions at various prestigious dance institutions, she passed and now has training once a week there. This is since she was 7/8.

I think if my DC was that good at something that required them to train 4 times a week, I would want them to show loads of potential and her teachers recognising their innate talent. Otherwise I would want them to do lots of different activities e.g weekly swimming lessons, brownies/ cubs, football..........

That's a very good point. It's at around that age that DC who are serious about dancing should be auditioning for RBS Junior Associates or Elmhurst Young Dancers, or similar, depending on which has a location nearer to you..!

Pipsquiggle · 17/08/2024 20:52

blueshoes · 17/08/2024 20:32

4 days a week at a hobby dance school (with endless classes, competitions, clothes, tickets and videos to buy) sounds like a way to rinse as much money out of unsuspecting parents with children as bait in the shortest possible time before their eyes are opened to what a con cult it all is.

The schools do this cynically knowing that the children will go no where with this circus, disregard the child's wellbeing and self-esteem, massively disrupt family life as well as drain family finances

@blueshoes it does definitely sound like OP is being used as a cash cow.

Pipsquiggle · 17/08/2024 20:56

MoralOrLegal · 17/08/2024 20:40

That's a very good point. It's at around that age that DC who are serious about dancing should be auditioning for RBS Junior Associates or Elmhurst Young Dancers, or similar, depending on which has a location nearer to you..!

@MoralOrLegal yes she auditioned for RBS but goes to lessons in Hertfordshire as it's nearer to home

MoralOrLegal · 17/08/2024 21:02

@Pipsquiggle Tring Park associates programme, at a guess!

RBS and Elmhurst (Birmingham Royal Ballet's school, more or less) both also run classes at regional locations. My DS was a competitive ballroom dancer for around three years, and danced with Elmhurst, but was never asked to commit to anything like the schedule that the OP is being asked. He compressed all his classes into the weekend, until unfortunately that started to clash with two other activities in Year 7 or thereabouts.

Pipsquiggle · 17/08/2024 21:28

@MoralOrLegal yes that's the one Tring Park