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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or is this unforgivable?

215 replies

AbominablePloughMan · 15/08/2024 07:18

I’ve been married a year. Knew my husband for 3 years before we married.

Shortly after we married I found out that when we had met, he was still in a relationship. He had checked out of the relationship with the ex, but had kept her on the hook for almost 2 years while looking for something better. 6 months before we met, he had cancelled her visa (it was a partner visa linked to him) and she had been forced to move back to her home country. He told me they were broken up, but in reality they were still speaking every day and she was very much under the impression that he was looking for a job in her country. He continued this relationship for a year after we met until she got fed up and met someone else.

This came so soon after the wedding that I was knocked for 6. My husband convinced me that he had no feelings for her and was only continuing the relationship because she was mentally fragile and suicidal. It was only on the phone and it meant nothing. I agreed to try to get over it. I’m from a conservative culture and had to face a lot of opposition for marrying a white man. I was ashamed of losing face with my community. I’ve posted about this bit before. Now there’s more.

I have now found out that he had been visiting this ex in her home country and been sleeping with her, and attended weddings with her as a couple. I’ve seen messages sexting and wishing each other happy anniversaries months and months after he started dating me. This was all during covid, I wasn’t really keeping track of his movements, he told me he was attending the weddings alone.

In addition, I have also found out that a year before he met me he rekindled a relationship with a previous ex, also while still with the more recent ex. The ex ex agreed to move her work location and come to the UK. She moved in with him a few months after we met, and lived with him at least 6 months (possibly more as this was during covid, I don’t know for sure). He says he broke up with her before she arrived, but had to let her live in his spare room as she had moved for him and had nowhere else to go (not true, her job would have provided her paid accommodation). Even if it’s true they were broken up while living together, he had cheated on his more recent ex for 2 years with two different girls while stringing her along. He was also in two serious relationships when he met me, and started another relationship with me. He cheated on me for at least one year with at least one girl after we met.

Please be gentle. My head is all over the place and I don’t know what’s real and fake any more. My husband has dismissed the whole thing saying they meant nothing, it was a mistake, he chose me not them etc. etc. It doesn’t feel like nothing, it feels very very cruel and manipulative. He can be kind but is also very conflict avoidant and a people pleaser, and can be quite selfish in his decisions, as this clearly shows. Ever since I found out about the more recent ex, he seems to have checked out of our marriage, but says he wants to work on things.

We’ve been married for a year. No kids no joint assets. AIBU in thinking that this is very very wrong? Or have I lost all perspective and it was early in the relationship so I should let it go? What on earth could possibly justify what he did? What could he have been thinking?

Due to family and cultural stuff, I need to think about what I do very carefully. I’m not saying that I agree with the cultural bullshit, just that my family will make life hell for me if I leave, but I may well be in a hellish marriage, so I’m kind of between a rock and a hard place.

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AlisonDonut · 15/08/2024 07:21

Well, forget about everyone else. Do you want to stay married to such a horrendous man?

If so then stay. If not then divorce him.

The rest will just have to be dealt with.

Saltedbutter · 15/08/2024 07:22

Oh, this isn’t great, is it?

Has he given you any cause for concern in his current behaviour? Is there a hope that he’s learned his lesson and that’s why he’s made the commitment of marriage to you?

I know that may so naive and people say that ‘once a cheat, always a cheat’ but I do believe people can learn their lessons also.

I wouldn’t be rushing to have children yet.

DustyLee123 · 15/08/2024 07:22

He may well have chosen you, but you wouldn’t have chosen him if you’d known.
And don’t live your life for your family.

Thelondonone · 15/08/2024 07:23

The cultural bullshit will be temporary and your parents, culture will get over it. If you don’t leave you are accepting a lifetime of misery.

AgnesX · 15/08/2024 07:27

You've been well and truly had. What a despicable man. I'm so sorry for the situation you find yourself in.

Leave him obviously. Culturally is there a way to do without fallout? Probably not. Is he here on a visa, is there something you could do in the same way he did

Bellamari · 15/08/2024 07:27

I would not stay in this relationship. When he met you he had one woman living with him and another that he was stringing along on the phone, having sex and attending weddings with! He didn’t tell you about any of this before you married either - he waited till you were tied in with a ring. I couldn’t forgive him or trust him.

ineedtogwtoutbeforeitatoohot · 15/08/2024 07:29

So your family would want you to stay in a very unhappy situation? That's not what family are supposed to do. Your husband is very untrustworthy and always will be. Get out now before you get pregnant. Cut your losses. Be the boss of your own life - Not him not your family. Do what's right for you. You're in a mess and now you need to get yourself out of it. If your family won't support you then honestly they arnt worth it either.

RedHelenB · 15/08/2024 07:30

I'd leave, let your family get all their I told you sos in and then hopefully you'll find someone who doesn't think he's God's gift to women of different cultures.

mrssunshinexxx · 15/08/2024 07:33

I think it's brilliant you don't have kids with this shitty man, divorce him urgently. 12 months from now you will be so much happier and likely being loved by the right man ifnl that's what you want

AbominablePloughMan · 15/08/2024 07:35

Bellamari · 15/08/2024 07:27

I would not stay in this relationship. When he met you he had one woman living with him and another that he was stringing along on the phone, having sex and attending weddings with! He didn’t tell you about any of this before you married either - he waited till you were tied in with a ring. I couldn’t forgive him or trust him.

He didn’t tell me any of this straight up. I found it all out in bits and pieces by accident (friends letting things slip about the weddings etc.). Each time I’ve found something out, he’s reluctantly admitted that and denied anything else. But then there’s been more. There may well be even more that I still don’t know of.

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StormingNorman · 15/08/2024 07:36

Well, you know how your relationship is going to end. Save the heartache of an affair and make a clean break now.

nextdoorconundrum · 15/08/2024 07:38

I think many men behave like this before they meet 'the one' . Until this point they don't feel any shame in sleeping around. He didn't marry either of the other girls. He married you. He can't change his sleazy past.So is frustrated that you have pulled him up on behaviour he can not now do anything about and to him is 'in the past'

That's how I expect him to be thinking.

You on the other hand would not of hung around long enough to become the one' had you known his behaviour.

Only you can know if you can forgive.

FakingItEasy · 15/08/2024 07:40

You only get one life. Do you want to be tied to this man who appears to be a serial cheater for the rest of yours?

My mum married someone who turned out to be a very different person that she'd thought, but my grandmother had said to her on her wedding day "you've made your bed, don't come crying to us if it doesn't work out". When my brother was a baby, she couldn't take it anymore, plucked up the courage to ask my GP if she could come home and they were astonished she was so worried about it, and welcomed her with open arms.

Your family might surprise you. I imagine if it's the choice between seeing you miserable (and constantly worrying about what he might or might not do next) or seeing you divorce, they'd rather see you happy.

AbominablePloughMan · 15/08/2024 07:41

Saltedbutter · 15/08/2024 07:22

Oh, this isn’t great, is it?

Has he given you any cause for concern in his current behaviour? Is there a hope that he’s learned his lesson and that’s why he’s made the commitment of marriage to you?

I know that may so naive and people say that ‘once a cheat, always a cheat’ but I do believe people can learn their lessons also.

I wouldn’t be rushing to have children yet.

I just think one overlapping relationship very early on is maybe an understandable mistake (although I wouldn’t do it), two or three overlapping relationships for several years just seems more sinister. He was well into his 30’s when all of this happened, not teenage stuff that people grow out of. We have very responsible jobs for god’s sake, people put their lives in our hands. I just can’t shake the paranoia that now he’s been found out, he’s checked out and will likely be lining up another one. It seems to be an MO.

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PolaroidPrincess · 15/08/2024 07:42

How difficult will the family make life for you? Will you be physically harmed? Do you worry about your life?

AuntieEstablishment · 15/08/2024 07:44

I'm so sorry OP. Big hugs to you.

He's shown you what he's capable of. It's despicable behaviour, not just towards you but towards these other women too. You will never be able to trust him, and never is a long time.

Octopies · 15/08/2024 07:45

Him not having a 'cards on the table' moment where he was honest about everything suggests to me it's a given he'll continue to be unfaithful. He's cheated multiple times with different women, so seems incapable of being in a monogamous relationship

In yours shoes, I would try to find a way to deal with the fallout from your family and breakup with him. There are plenty of men out there who don't cheat, so I don't see what you would gain by staying with this one, who has basically cheated from day one. The first few years of a relationship shouldn't be this difficult.

Greategret · 15/08/2024 07:45

He is just vile and his behaviour is simply not excusable or capable of being explained away. As humiliating or embarrassing as it is you need to get out of this marriage asap and get an STD checkup.

Doingmybest12 · 15/08/2024 07:46

You don't need this level of complication and uncertainty. If you stay in this marriage your mental health will be negatively impacted. It's been a year, get out. Don't have children with him. Deal with the fall out and start your life again. He is not a partner for life.

AbominablePloughMan · 15/08/2024 07:46

nextdoorconundrum · 15/08/2024 07:38

I think many men behave like this before they meet 'the one' . Until this point they don't feel any shame in sleeping around. He didn't marry either of the other girls. He married you. He can't change his sleazy past.So is frustrated that you have pulled him up on behaviour he can not now do anything about and to him is 'in the past'

That's how I expect him to be thinking.

You on the other hand would not of hung around long enough to become the one' had you known his behaviour.

Only you can know if you can forgive.

I don’t know if ‘many men’ doing it makes it ok. It just doesn’t sit right with me. It’s so dishonest, I would never in my wildest dreams do such a thing. It’s this huge mismatch in moral values that I’m worried about.

I could stay due to parental pressure but I could never truly trust him again. Could I knowingly give my kids such a dishonest father?

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AbominablePloughMan · 15/08/2024 07:48

PolaroidPrincess · 15/08/2024 07:42

How difficult will the family make life for you? Will you be physically harmed? Do you worry about your life?

No not my life. Just a lot of ‘I told you sos’ and ‘you’ve made your beds’ etc. but in a quite nasty, dehumanising way.

Im already in a huge amount of mental anguish as a result of my husbands betrayal, so very wary of adding even more pain on top of that.

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SuncreamAndIceCream · 15/08/2024 07:49

DustyLee123 · 15/08/2024 07:22

He may well have chosen you, but you wouldn’t have chosen him if you’d known.
And don’t live your life for your family.

Edited

Agree with this

Your whole relationship and marriage is based on lies. That's awful.

And like you say, you don't even know if you've got the full truth yet.

I think if you stay, he will break you. Him cancelling his ex partners visa is the action of a very cold, cruel person. The multiple girlfriends and the rest of it point to someone for whom deception is a way of life. The person you know isn't real, he doesn't think of women as people, they are just useful to him, until they are not, and then they are discarded.

TemuSpecialBuy · 15/08/2024 07:51

There is NO WAY I’d stay.

He cancelled her visa and continued this relationship for a year after we met 😵‍💫😱😱😱

these are not the actions of a normal person, he is a cold cold man and you should be very worried about what he is capable of.

Run don’t walk…..
you have a whole life ahead of you don’t waste it on him and certainly don’t have children with him even if you stay.

this guy has no character and no moral fibre.

Catza · 15/08/2024 07:52

AbominablePloughMan · 15/08/2024 07:41

I just think one overlapping relationship very early on is maybe an understandable mistake (although I wouldn’t do it), two or three overlapping relationships for several years just seems more sinister. He was well into his 30’s when all of this happened, not teenage stuff that people grow out of. We have very responsible jobs for god’s sake, people put their lives in our hands. I just can’t shake the paranoia that now he’s been found out, he’s checked out and will likely be lining up another one. It seems to be an MO.

I have to agree with you. It is possible to forgive one mistake but, in his case, it seems to be systematic and I would be uncomfortable with the idea of looking over my shoulder for the rest of my life.
I think you nailed in in your earlier reply. It's a mismatch of moral values. Even if he never cheats again, his moral values will reveal themselves in other areas of your life. It's a non-starter for me.

GeneralUser · 15/08/2024 07:52

There's very little reason for you to stay in the marriage. He is not the man you thought he was. Lies, betrayals, hurt whilst downplaying your hurt is all you will get from him. Can you spend the rest of your life with a man who thinks so little of you? He is not taking responsibility for his actions - he's saying it's not a big deal.

Don't let the culture stop you from doing what you need to do get out of this relationship. It'll be hard, but less painful than staying.