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MIL inviting visitors to our home

271 replies

MooMa83 · 13/08/2024 16:11

So my MIL has been very kind in helping out with a few odd days of childcare over the summer hols for our toddler and 7 year old at our house. Her relationship with my DH (her son) is strained, and I don't get on that well with her, but try to keep the peace as the kids love her and I want them to have a close relationship. However something is irking me....the last couple of times she has helped she has mentioned to my DH in the morning "I've invited so and so over for lunch/coffee today". These are people she is close to, that my husband knows from the past, but that I haven't met. I feel like she should have asked beforehand, and I'm not sure how I feel about someone I don't know in my house and around my children. Would this bother you?

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phoenixrosehere · 14/08/2024 22:06

TomatoSandwiches · 14/08/2024 21:58

I can't speak for everyone but in my case I wouldn't want my mother inviting anyone but family over and asking me if it was okay first, her judgement in people isn't as good as my MIL who I adore ( love them both )
The issue I have is that this is MY house not an extention of my MILs or mother's property and as an adult who doesn't rely financially on either of them deserve the respect of another adult.

I wouldn't dream of inviting someone without asking permission or telling my MIL or mother so and so is coming over.

I'm not sure why mothers and MILs think they are above or owed more leeway with things like this.
I'm not saying there are no instances where family members take the mick in asking for childcare or babysitting above and over what is acceptable but in general let's not pretend that babysitting your own grandchildren is a completely selfless sacrifice and that should mean you get to trample over boundaries and decide things without asking.

It's just rude.

Same here.

My parents wouldn’t invite people to our home and vice versa. They’re the ones that taught me it was rude to invite people to a home that is not yours and to ask first. DH’s parents are the same and he also asks them if he can have someone over, regardless if they met them or not.

It would have taken seconds to ask and something should have been said earlier.

Mischance · 14/08/2024 22:17

Why would you need to keep your house "visitor ready"? What's that about? What does it mean? Visitors are just fellow human beings - what needs to be ready for them?

People are welcomed into my house at any time - they take my home as it is.

Middleagedspreadisreal · 14/08/2024 22:27

Well done for letting your kids have a relationship with her when you don't like her. I don't know how I'd feel about her having friends round. As long as she's not neglecting the kids while she's entertaining. Is she just wanting to show them off?

Sometimesright · 14/08/2024 22:28

StarryDance · 13/08/2024 16:32

Free child care.

Op did say the kids really love her

Ilovechocolatelimesandsherbertlemons · 14/08/2024 23:07

I can't believe how horrible some young women are to their mothers in law nowadays, particularly to those who are kindly looking after their grandchildren. Having worked for 40 years with other people's children, as well as bringing up three of my own it's the last thing I would have offered. I never expected my parents to look after my children, they were my responsibility. I am happy to babysit or take the grandchildren to the theatre or on holiday, but never would I expect to be treated like this.
What goes around will come around though. Wait till you are mothers-in-law yourselves, and desperately trying to build a kind relationship with your own daughter in law and grand children. Your hearts will break with the effort.

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 14/08/2024 23:38

Not quite the same but we built our own house and while we were on holiday my friend was popping in to feed the cats (something I did in return when she was away).

When we came home my friend told me that she had invited various friends of hers around and gave them a tour because "I knew you wouldn't mind". I most certainly did mind!

I was so shocked I didn't say anything.

Tourmalines · 15/08/2024 02:38

Ilovechocolatelimesandsherbertlemons · 14/08/2024 23:07

I can't believe how horrible some young women are to their mothers in law nowadays, particularly to those who are kindly looking after their grandchildren. Having worked for 40 years with other people's children, as well as bringing up three of my own it's the last thing I would have offered. I never expected my parents to look after my children, they were my responsibility. I am happy to babysit or take the grandchildren to the theatre or on holiday, but never would I expect to be treated like this.
What goes around will come around though. Wait till you are mothers-in-law yourselves, and desperately trying to build a kind relationship with your own daughter in law and grand children. Your hearts will break with the effort.

Yep .

Stoptherideiwanttogetoff24 · 15/08/2024 09:54

mathanxiety · 14/08/2024 19:55

Nonsense.

And it is good for children to not have guaranteed adult attention and interaction every time a thought crosses their minds. There is more to emotional and social needs than turning yourself into a human Siri or Alexa, always ready with a response.

I had a lock on my bathroom door, and when I used the loo or had a shower, I locked it. If I was on the phone, I had a rule that they could only interrupt me if the house was on fire. All my DCs survived and turned into mature adults despite me having ten minutes to inhabit my own head occasionally.

I totally agree when at home with parents but when with a grandparent you rarely see I think the focus ought to be on the grandchildren not on socialising with friends

Leanmeansmitingmachine · 15/08/2024 10:45

I know you’ll have replies of ‘she’s doing you a favour, she can basically shit in your flowerpots if it pleases her’

😂 yep.

Tourmalines · 15/08/2024 10:49

Stoptherideiwanttogetoff24 · 15/08/2024 09:54

I totally agree when at home with parents but when with a grandparent you rarely see I think the focus ought to be on the grandchildren not on socialising with friends

🙄

JudgeJ · 15/08/2024 10:50

payens · 14/08/2024 19:09

Omg another MIL bashing thread. If it doesn't suit you pay for childcare

Exactly, and why do women always refer to 'my' house, are they anticipating a divorce and taking him to the cleaners?

Leanmeansmitingmachine · 15/08/2024 10:50

On the morning of my wedding (which was held at our home) my in-laws ran guided tours with their friends around my house while we were trying to get ready. My bridesmaids were caught in the shower and another in her underwear and my grown up nephew was caught getting dressed. I didn’t find out until afterwards. I was horrified. These were the same in-laws that let themselves into our home while we were on honeymoon and I got home to find the whole extended family plus friends in my pool. 🤯 (house was messy too).

JudgeJ · 15/08/2024 10:55

Stoptherideiwanttogetoff24 · 14/08/2024 17:04

Means the grandchildren will be ignored while she chit chats with her mates not ideal

The grandchildren would probably love a granny who roared up on a Harley especially if they were allowed to sit on it. My granddaughter loved to sit in the little 2 seater I had!

JudgeJ · 15/08/2024 10:57

EI12 · 13/08/2024 18:29

Exactly, how dare she focus on anything but unpaid childminding! Sack her! And don't pay her the statutory exit fee.... Oh, wait....

I wonder if these affronted mothers ever have a friend over for coffee or, heaven forbid, lunch, are they not bright enough to chat over coffee and keep an eye on the children wrecking the happy homestead?

Grammarnut · 15/08/2024 12:03

She should have asked if it was ok. I would not dream of inviting a non-family member into my step-son's house, though I might bring DS in to say 'hello', if he has given me a lift there - he'd be welcome btw.

PemberleynotWemberley · 15/08/2024 12:50

Leanmeansmitingmachine · 15/08/2024 10:50

On the morning of my wedding (which was held at our home) my in-laws ran guided tours with their friends around my house while we were trying to get ready. My bridesmaids were caught in the shower and another in her underwear and my grown up nephew was caught getting dressed. I didn’t find out until afterwards. I was horrified. These were the same in-laws that let themselves into our home while we were on honeymoon and I got home to find the whole extended family plus friends in my pool. 🤯 (house was messy too).

Awful. But not really comparable....

As far as I can see, the MIL's only mistake here is clearing it with her own DS rather than the lady of the house. I suspect the underlying problem in truth is that the OP doesn't really like her MIL, so is hypersensitive to perceived wrongs. There's no suggestion she's not trustworthy, and the guests weren't strangers but longstanding friends known to the DH.

If ever I'm a GM asked to provide childcare I'll offer to do so in my own home, or clarify that I'm expected to treat their home as my own. Looking after young children in a house where she's not welcome to relax properly is an unreasonable ask.

Donsyb · 15/08/2024 12:58

TeeBee · 13/08/2024 16:25

Yes, my MIL used to do the same! It's bloody cheeky. She also used to pop in to go to the toilet if she was at the beach, even if I was out. She is lovely in many, many ways but I had to draw boundaries before I throttled her.

A friend used to come home and find his MIL in his house for no reason whatsoever. During the middle of the day, she’d just be sat there reading the paper and drinking coffee 😂 they changed the locks when she kept doing it after being asked not to.

TeeBee · 15/08/2024 13:02

Donsyb · 15/08/2024 12:58

A friend used to come home and find his MIL in his house for no reason whatsoever. During the middle of the day, she’d just be sat there reading the paper and drinking coffee 😂 they changed the locks when she kept doing it after being asked not to.

Yep, mine would do similar. I think she felt because it was her son's home, it was also her space to do whatever she wanted. I've very much a more private person. I still love her dearly (even though she is now my ex-MIL) and meet with her often but people just have different boundaries. God love her!! :-D

MummyPencil · 15/08/2024 14:23

If you know your MIL and if (according to your standards) she is decent I would imagine so are her friends therefore should be no issues if your children are around them.

You could mention next time to inform or ask if she is willing to invite someone to your family home.

saraclara · 15/08/2024 14:29

As far as I can see, the MIL's only mistake here is clearing it with her own DS rather than the lady of the house.

Yep. On Mumsnet, MILs are not supposed to pester their DILs about arrangements. Communication with MIL is supposed to be their DH's responsibility. But when MIL gets permission for something from her son, without checking with DIL, that's also wrong.

Again, I'm so relieved to only be a MIL to sons in law. Mine are entirely chilled with the relationship, bless them!

Ewg9 · 15/08/2024 16:59

At the very least I'd consider this cheeky to not okay it in advance and not hours before the friend was turning up. The positive slant is that she feels comfortable to welcome people round, but it sounds rude and disrespectful to not give proper warning or check that you would both be comfortable.

Coco1379 · 17/08/2024 18:41

I would wonder if she is looking after your children diligently or entertaaining her friend. I would worry that she’d be chatting and not really paying attention to the children. I wouldn’t like people I didn’t know in my house either.

Skybluepinky · 17/08/2024 19:00

The joys of not paying for childcare!

JillMW · 17/08/2024 19:43

My friend often invites me round when she has her grandchildren. Her daughter in law loves it. Two ladies having fun with two children is a bonus particularly when the children are different ages. One can be colouring while the other feeds the baby. One pushing the swing whilst one has the little one in the push chair. One singing and playing baby toys while the other bakes with the big one etc etc.
Maybe if you met the visitor first you would feel more at ease?

Noodles1234 · 17/08/2024 21:31

Free childcare never ends up being free.

I wouldn’t be happy with this either, but if you say no you’re likely to end up with a cross MiL who may decide not to babysit anymore, or take them out to meet her friends with your kids to places you may not like where she won’t have full attention on your kids. Maybe safer all round to either bite your tongue or look for alternate childcare provision.

if DH knows them and says they’re ok I think might help, maybe try to meet them to rid any fear.

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