TW - Upsetting information: XL Bully attack *edited by MNHQ

[Citylightsarebright]

Another xl bully attack, this time it was in my home town last week.
An xl bully ran out of the house down the road and attacked the nearest dog it saw a little dauchshund ripping both its legs off, it took 4 men and two women to get the xl bully off the other dog. The other little dog is alive thanks to the bravery of other people there at the time , however it had to have both legs ( what was left of them ) amputated.
Its extremely sad. The owner of the dauchshund is an elderly lady who was out walking the little dog ans she is utterly traumatised as expected.
The dog has been seized and owners will be prosecuted we have been told.
The reason I'm posting this is because I feel prosecution and dog being seized hasnt really solved anything has it? What is being done to prevent what happened in the first place? Nothing?? These dogs are still attacking / killing animals and children/ adults
Am I being unreasonable in thinking enough isnt being done to get rid of these hurrendous dogs?????

I have no idea how you would choke one of these things in all honesty. Have you felt an XL bully neck?

I didn't say it wasn't a long shot but there are no good options if you are under attack from one of these!
Unless you happen to be carrying a firearm, even then it can take several rounds to stop them.

Oh I’m not criticising your advice and certainly would try it! I’ve found them a bit like seals with no necks to speak of! They also have huge muscly fronts that make it hard to get round them.

I hate dealing with them at work because one wrong turn and there’s nothing at all I can do.

Dog on dog attacks happen all the time.
My own dog ended up in the emergency vets after being bitten by a collie. I have had to drop her lead and let her run after 2 spaniels tried to have a go at her.
My mum's old dog was mauled my a lab and nearly died, and another time by a JRT. Her current dog was attacked by a pug recently.

But this one is in the news because it is an XL bully.

Thank you for a constructive response.

A dog licence or vetting process would be a step in the right direction. I don't think it's right that anyone can just own a pet.

There is so much neglect, cruelty and irresponsibility. People ought to be vetted which ni think would solve a huge amount of other problems, or at least lead to easier enforcement of other problems. Backyard breeding and puppy smuggling is a huge problem. If people couldn't freely advertise pets for sale in would also reduce wider social problems.

I do feel very sorry for anyone affected by what happened, then people that push to breed this sort of dog are fundamentally jot then sort of people who should ever have a pet. And there is a staggering amount of naivity around what keeping one looks like in reality.

I deal with dog attacks all the time. Generally even when fighting dogs don’t rip eachothers legs off.

Normal dogs that is.

That’s awful, why wasn’t the dachshund euthanised? Why would a vet allow a breed with spinal issues to live after having both of its hind legs ripped off?

This

Big powerful jaws versus a small dog with little peggy legs.

Not all dachshund have spinal issues, just like not all pugs have breathing issues.

Imagine taking your dog to the vet and being told they will be PTS because of known issues with the breed, that you are not in the vets for to begin with, and they have not had issues with it.

It’s the outright stupidity that gets me. I mean, how thick must a person be to not “get” the statistics around this breed.

“it’s bad owners” … well you have “bad owners” of golden retrievers but they don’t tend to go around ripping people to pieces do they? How can anyone not see the logic in this?

“XL Bullies are great with kids” - really? You want a breed that is good with kids so you choose the one breed responsible for more children’s deaths than any other breed? Surely a person must be very hard of thinking to think an XL bully is a good choice when it comes to child friendly breeds?

“other breeds attack, you just don’t hear about it” … I’m pretty sure if a person was ripped to pieces by a Dalmatian, it would be in the news. It would certainly be in the news if a second Dalmatian fatality happened … and then a 3rd … and then a 4th … I’m pretty sure people would then be saying “hang on a minute, there seems to be a problem with Dalmatian’s … “

Seriously people this stupid should not be allowed to walk the streets unsupervised

It was a dog on dog attack.
Like I said in a PP, they happen all the time. The only reason this one made the news was because it was an XL bully.

There was a post on a local facebook group from a complete scumbag thicko who was going to rehome one of these horrible dogs. She has 3 kids under 12 and lives a completely chaotic life style
She is in court at least monthly, as is whichever bloke she happens to be with at the time. She can barely string a sentence together and is very obviously low IQ. Her post was full of idiots egging her on telling her what a saint she was and if anyone did try to point out how stupid the idea was her little band of idiots were all 'don't you listen to them hun, you've got a big heart, '
Unfortunately when you are up against that level of thick scum you are never going to get through to them. They just don't have the intelligence to understand what they are doing.

One of the reasons injuries are so high is the level of dog ownership. When I was at school, maybe one in 20 kids had a dog. Now it’s nearer 50%.

And XLs have bad genes.

And they are bred by ignorant people.

And they are massively effective when they attack.

The PP saying dogs on dog attacks are common but not discussed, we only care because it’s an XL- not entirely true. We all know dog on dog attacks happen- one happened to mine. The difference is when a collie or a couple of spaniels attack another dog, the owners have a good chance of breaking it up before the dog is killed and without risking death themselves.

With an XL, not so much. I mean, I’m amazed they managed to save the dachshund.

Having an XL bully for a ‘pet’ is the equivalent of having a Hyena for a pet.

Owners of such animals are completely deluded if they think they have ANY control over it should it decide to attack.

The size and strength of these animals combined with their now evident inbred propensity to fatally attack humans and animals with no provocation or warning means that, imo, they should be treated just as any other undomesticated/wild dangerous animal.

They should NOT be allowed as pets, and any currently living should either be euthanised or live out their life in sanctuaries where human contact is kept to a minimum like dealing with captive tigers and lions.

Not really - with XL bullies you can get good owner and ordinary dog = attacks.

You can get that with any breed actually. Just the attack is less likely to result in severe injuries. I know of cases of border collies and labradors belonging to good owners who bit someone.

And a good owner will euthanase a dog that is aggressive towards its own family. Lots of people won't do this - they will re-home instead

Dog on dog attacks happen frequently and are not newsworthy or of interest to the police most of the time.
However it's pretty rare for one dog to rip another dog's legs off. Usually it's a few puncture wounds

Have a look on r/banpitbulls on reddit

“Its pretty rare for a dog to rip another dog’s legs off”

this sentence sounds so surreal yet so true. You’re wasting your breath with the bully apologists though, they don’t have the intelligence to understand.

I am shocked there are people defending keeping these dogs as family pets, they’re usually in totally inappropriate living accommodation.
I could see an argument for an experienced dog owner who has studied dog behaviour and has access to space both inside and outside.
As a standard “pet”, they are as unsuitable as having a tiger in a 3 bed terrace in a town centre. Dogs aren’t inherently bad or dangerous which also means those arguments about them being “softies” are bollocks too. That is simply misguided humans projecting our emotions onto animals.

The thing that gets me is the amount of idiots that think it’s ok to own one, and are all “oh they’re misunderstood, mine would never attack etc etc”

Until they do, because they’re so unpredictable. And even with the law around muzzling when out and about doesn’t stop one escaping their owner’s house and attacking the first animal/child/adult they come across. None of us have ANY control over that. I don’t walk around in fear or anything, but this could literally happen at any moment!

There’s several near me that get walked by their young male owners who probably are half the weight of the dogs, none of them use leads or muzzles. This isn’t even in a park. They are walking the streets with no leads. I’m becoming so scared to take my little dog out for fear of bumping into one. I am scared to turn corners in case we bump into them, have had a couple of close calls.

I would put my dogs to sleep if they had their legs ripped off, no dog should suffer that.

That is down to the owner. An elderly dog... maybe PTS. A young one with its whole life ahead of it - owner probably decided to give them a chance.
Dogs are not like people where they are incapacitated for months on end after losing a limb. Animals bounce back rather quickly.
Up to the owner anyway, and I don't think trying to shame them is helpful.

Quite this. I don't think I've ever seen a proper dog fight in 30 years of dealing with dogs. Sure, there has been argy bargy, and a few that were approaching being OTT, but mostly they've just been finding their own level, or telling another dog off for being overly enthusiastic.

XL's are a whole different argument though due to ridiculous breeding.