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Would this annoy you- husband - plane seats

350 replies

airc · 09/08/2024 07:33

We went away recently, 3 hour flight.

It turned out our seats were not together.

My husband was on his own at the back and I had two seats, one for me and my 1 year old son on my lap and one for my 3 year old.

When we sat down, I said- don't worry I'll be fine. Let's see how it goes, maybe we can swap. Come and see us when we are up there.

He did not move from his seat once. I saw him go to the toilet. But not ONCE did he come up to our row, ask how we are OR take one of the children.

I was furious.

AIBU ?

OP posts:
GiantHornets · 09/08/2024 10:16

Thelittleweasel · 09/08/2024 09:56

This sounds like a "budget" airline where you booked a flight but did not book seats [and pay extra] at the same time. Put simply in that case when you check in they simply "allocate" seats. Children have to be next to a carer [of course] but there is a theory that "couples" are, as a policy, seated apart.

The idea is that if you all want to sit together you pay for that "privilege" in advance. It is probably likely that - in any event - if you leave seating to check in most, if not all, of the three seat rows will have been taken.

I have been looking for a flight and have found one at £18.90 basic. Seat is an extra £11 at the time! I believe it is called "drip pricing". Bag at £35 so from £20 basic to about £66 in reality!

No, in reality the price is £18.90.
Nobody in my family would pay for seat selection (all adults capable of sitting alone on a short flight).
Everyone would travel hand luggage only so no need for a checked bag. I can easily pack enough for a week’s holiday in a Ryanair underseat bag

AtomicPumpkin · 09/08/2024 10:18

LoremIpsumCici · 09/08/2024 09:03

You can’t swap seats. There is a legal requirement to stay put so that in the event of a crash, they can match body parts to identities. The most he could have done is take the baby on his lap. I don’t know why you didn’t send 1yr old back with him in the first place so you’d each have a kid with you instead if volunteering to take both kids.

Edited

Of course you can swap seats. People do it all the time. Sometimes the cabin crew will ask people to move, to even out the weight distribution for take-off. You obviously don't fly very much.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 09/08/2024 10:19

cannellonies · 09/08/2024 10:14

What?

Babies on laps get allocated seats (on the parents lap) the plane based on which seats are suitable for them. It might not be the case for all airlines but for many they can only go in certain places based on the oxygen masks etc. You can’t just move them to a completely different row as it might not be one that allows infants on laps. (Note, this does vary a lot by airline)

PinkyFlamingo · 09/08/2024 10:19

airc · 09/08/2024 07:53

@Procrastinates that's not true. We had an understanding he'd come up and we'd see how it goes. He didn't do what he said he would do.

he should have come up and then we could have decided what to do, as discussed.

So when you asked him why he sat on his backside the whole flight what did he say?

cannellonies · 09/08/2024 10:23

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 09/08/2024 10:19

Babies on laps get allocated seats (on the parents lap) the plane based on which seats are suitable for them. It might not be the case for all airlines but for many they can only go in certain places based on the oxygen masks etc. You can’t just move them to a completely different row as it might not be one that allows infants on laps. (Note, this does vary a lot by airline)

I can’t count how many times we’ve flown, around the world wirh my children since they were three months old. I have never experienced this. Even last week on our flight within Europe there were several parents swapping.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 09/08/2024 10:23

He was so unreasonable I’m spitting on your behalf!

I never had my two both so little at the same time, but having one in that age range was always a nightmare.

I think I would have gone crazy trapped with two little ones in a non aisle seat anyway, but him not coming to check, and at least take the one year old off you, would not be forgotten easily.

Its things like this that lead to the divorce rate being so high as you can’t forget the utter, bone-deep selfishness.

cannellonies · 09/08/2024 10:25

cannellonies · 09/08/2024 10:23

I can’t count how many times we’ve flown, around the world wirh my children since they were three months old. I have never experienced this. Even last week on our flight within Europe there were several parents swapping.

@LiquoriceAllsorts2 There is always one extra mask on each row as far as I know, to accomodate children.

But a couple traveling with two babies might be different..not sure if they could sit in the same row.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 09/08/2024 10:26

The lady sitting next to you was wise— saw right through your husband.
By saying “I’ll be fine” — do you often feel you have to say this to allow him to duck out of his responsibilities?

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 09/08/2024 10:28

cannellonies · 09/08/2024 10:25

@LiquoriceAllsorts2 There is always one extra mask on each row as far as I know, to accomodate children.

But a couple traveling with two babies might be different..not sure if they could sit in the same row.

Edited

Yeah so if there is already a baby on a lap in that row another one can’t be accommodated. Yes maybe that didn’t apply in this situation (we don’t know) but it does mean that on lots of flights they wouldn’t just allow you to move a baby to a completely different part of the plane in case it isn’t able to accomodate them.

Choochoo21 · 09/08/2024 10:30

I would be so annoyed!!

It wouldn’t even cross my mind not to check on you.

If I was him I would have swapped half way through and not taken no for an answer.

whereisthelifethatirecognize · 09/08/2024 10:31

When you saw the seat assignments and no options to change, why didn't you hand him the baby to hold for the flight?

ValerieJ · 09/08/2024 10:33

I get why you're angry but to be fair, you did say "don't worry, I'll be fine". Could it be that he took you at your word? Was there a time when things got out of control, and was he close enough to have noticed if they did? What was the rationale behind not reserving seating for all three of you beforehand? And more importantly, is this an isolated incident, or do you tend to feel like this a lot in the relationship?

Using this episode in isolation, I do wish he had been more considerate BUT I also think the planning could have been better on both your parts and you didn't do a good job of expressing your needs or giving him the room to help.

That said, given that you were angry enough to post here, I doubt it's isolated, and I think there are deeper issues in your relationship. It might help to seek counselling (perhaps as a couple, but more importantly for yourself) to figure out what exactly is going on and how to move forward.

cannellonies · 09/08/2024 10:34

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 09/08/2024 10:28

Yeah so if there is already a baby on a lap in that row another one can’t be accommodated. Yes maybe that didn’t apply in this situation (we don’t know) but it does mean that on lots of flights they wouldn’t just allow you to move a baby to a completely different part of the plane in case it isn’t able to accomodate them.

A couple traveling with twin babies might not be able to sit in the same row, I guess.

We once had one of those cots for our baby, so he could sleep. Not the best 24hr flight I’ve ever had.. 😅

WickieRoy · 09/08/2024 10:34

RosesAndHellebores · 09/08/2024 10:14

That's why when ours were 1 and 3 we had the good sense to go to Cornwall or Norfolk Grin.

We went to the Costa del Lockdown, but wouldn't have made it past Center Parcs regardless.

mightymam · 09/08/2024 10:39

My stbxh does shit like this which is why we're now divorcing. It won't get any better. As someone upthread has said, this shows exactly what he thinks of you- not much.

NeverEnoughPants · 09/08/2024 10:40

HowIrresponsible · 09/08/2024 09:07

The OP has said the children are clingy without her in unfamiliar situations.

But she also said that not once did he take one of the children. So it's clearly an option.

ValerieJ · 09/08/2024 10:44

airc · 09/08/2024 07:43

I reserved the seats but it was too late to get seats together. I assumed we'd be swapping. The kids can be pretty clingy with me, especially when we are somewhere different. However he could have come up and talked to us and seen how we were.

The lady sitting next to me was also appalled by his behaviour. She was twice divorced herself and was like ' this is not a good sign '. ' you deserve better '. It was funny at the end when he made an appearance the lady looked him up and down and gave him the dirtiest look..

We can't hold other people responsible for our assumptions. I think it would have helped if you communicated that assumption as a request or boundary. "Can you sit with X and I'll take Y?" or "I'm going to sit with X and you'll take Y." But what makes things worse is you did communicate , but you communicated against what you wanted. So even if he had read your mind or intuitively wanted to help, you shut the door to that.

I'm not sure what in the relationship dynamic or your own belief system made you feel like you couldn't tell/ask him, but that's where the problem lies.

You're both BU.

thebookdragonz · 09/08/2024 10:44

I have absolutely no idea why you didn’t just pass him the baby .

im assuming that the toddler had to be next to you in its seat for take off , but the baby on a lap pass it to dad . Even if you are feeding baby , dad can bring them back when hungry.

I can’t imagine a situation where I wouldn’t have just passed a child to my husband In this situation.

yes he should have checked, but I think you have made the mistake of giving the option to be selfish

Purplecrush · 09/08/2024 10:47

Just another selfish prick on MN.
Take it as a real sign as just what a loser you married and had children with and start adjusting YOUR tolerance level for him.

How did you convey your annoyance?
You were very silly to tolerate this.
i would have asked the hostess to get a message to him to get his arse up here now.

He has just shown you exactly who he is and the wise woman beside you could see it clearly.

Keep family, friends and your career close, you will need all three.

RobinEllacotStrike · 09/08/2024 10:49

I had a client who used to fly first class while his wife and child flew economy.
He was very wealthy.
Not only did he do this, but he felt totally cool about it and would tell people, including me.

I mean if I was going to engage in such shady behaviour (I wouldn't) I wouldnt boast about it!

DaisyChain505 · 09/08/2024 10:53

Onehotday · 09/08/2024 07:42

Oh I see the man haters are out in full force this morning 😂

It’s got nothing to do with man hating. It’s the fact this individual who had two children to look after didn’t do just that. It’s selfish and just shows he thinks it’s not his problem.

TheBirdintheCave · 09/08/2024 10:54

My husband would immediately have taken the baby and then we would have swapped half way. But then, we also would have made sure our seats were together because being separated on a flight is no fun.

DiscontentedPig · 09/08/2024 11:02

I've travelled on my own with my two at that age, and while it's not exactly relaxing it's been fine. If my wife had been on the same plane but not able to sit with us, that would also have been fine.

So if I'd been in this chap's position, and my wife had explicitly told me "I'll be fine", I've a horrible feeling I'd have taken her word for it.

scotstars · 09/08/2024 11:09

YANBU however surely would have been better for him and 3 year old to take the 2 seats and you sit with 1 yo on lap in the other seat?

5128gap · 09/08/2024 11:21

Horrible selfish behaviour with no thought for you or his children's needs. Unfortunately with one if these you can only fight fire with fire. Tell him on the return trip its his turn to sit next to 3 year old with one year old on his knee. And if you're still together next time you go away, tell him you're taking a child each, or one has both and you swap half way. If he hasn't got the decency to support a flexible arrangement without taking advantage, you need to set a fairer one out.