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AIBU - not inviting everyone to the leaving do is a dick move

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Packingcubesqueen · 06/08/2024 15:19

I work in a school. One of the other teachers is leaving. They have invited a group of people to their leaving do and left a few out. The people who have been invited are various ages and job positions (SLT, TAs, Teachers etc) she has basically just excluded a few people she doesn’t like (including me). I have never had any conflict with this person, there is no back story that I know of. I am often excluded from things but never with so many others being included. Usually about half of us aren’t invited. We are also having a lunch on her last day, that is for everyone. She didn’t organise the lunch.
YABU - it’s her leaving do she can invite who she likes
YANBU - it’s a dick move

OP posts:
LouH5 · 06/08/2024 17:05

Packingcubesqueen · 06/08/2024 17:03

There are 20 staff and about 15 or more been invited out of the teaching staff. We are a small SEN school.

Aw yeah in that case I think she should’ve invited you all. I get why you’re upset, chin up and plan some nice things with your friends/family :)

TorroFerney · 06/08/2024 17:07

Packingcubesqueen · 06/08/2024 15:27

She hasn’t left a fair few out most people are invited. Only a few of us are not invited.

I’d look more closely at why you are so bothered since it’s the only thing you can change. Not everyone likes everyone. You aren’t defined by whether she likes you or not (unless you’ve done something atrocious of course).

Lovesacake · 06/08/2024 17:10

I think it’s a dick move, if you’re inviting the majority then you invite everyone unless you’ve actively fallen out which doesn’t seem to be the case here. Not sure why you’ve been getting such a hard time on here Op, I think you’re not being unreasonable

Betterthanyesterday · 06/08/2024 17:10

It may be a RTFT situation but are you completely certain that you’ve been excluded intentionally?

Isometimeswonder · 06/08/2024 17:11

Well, you've saved some money by not going.

Bearbookagainandagain · 06/08/2024 17:11

That seems quite reasonable to me, particularly since she is leaving and doesn't have to pretend anymore.
We either do team leaving do (and invite everyone obviously), or the person leaving organise their own and invite who they want. Or both.

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/08/2024 17:12

Packingcubesqueen · 06/08/2024 16:22

I don’t think my friend was stirring the conversation went something like-
friend- are you going to the night out?
me - no I didn’t even know there was one, is it on email?
Friend - erm I think it was a WhatsApp, maybe they forgot to add you
Me- who else is going?
friend - (awkwardly) while looking at the group - ‘pretty much everyone’.
Me - Even x and y?
Friend - yeah, sorry… I’d go out with you instead though.

She asked if you were invited despite knowing that you weren’t in the WhatsApp group which makes it very obvious who is or isn’t invited?

Of course she was stirring the pot.

MargolyesofBeelzebub · 06/08/2024 17:15

I get it, someone I used to work with hosted a BBQ at her house. She invited EVERYONE in my room in the office to it except me, but she forgot that I was the PA to one of the directors who she invited too. She sent the invite via outlook and so I saw it and all the people who were invited (due to being able to see the director's inbox). It really upset me because it confirmed she didn't like me. I'd always put her rudeness towards me down to her being a bit socially clumsy. At least it taught me not to bother with her in future, although it gave me lots of pleasure to be extra nice to her knowing that she didn't like me ;)

At least this person is leaving so you don't have to think about them ever again!

viques · 06/08/2024 17:16

PeachPairPlum · 06/08/2024 15:23

Agree with you. I've had this and - perhaps childishly- regretted contributing to her leaving gift.

I’ve had this too, and made sure I did contribute, minimally, to the leaving gift, so that I would have no issues about signing the card. I wrote a very prominent message in the card which could have been taken several ways - knowing she would take it the way I intended!

AGoingConcern · 06/08/2024 17:17

That seems quite reasonable to me, particularly since she is leaving and doesn't have to pretend anymore. We either do team leaving do (and invite everyone obviously), or the person leaving organise their own and invite who they want. Or both.

It’s been the same at all my workplaces. In the case of OP’s coworker it’s both - there’s a lunch for everyone. The out-of-hours event was arranged via personal comms (not work emails) and it’s separate from the work event.

And I do think the fact that she’s leaving is key. This isn’t like having a holiday party and only including some of the staff as some PP have said. She stops being responsible for looking after team cohesiveness and rapport at end of day on her last day… you can’t really accuse someone of workplace bullying in a workplace they no longer work in.

Theresalwaystomorrowihope · 06/08/2024 17:17

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 06/08/2024 15:54

Might have something to do with her attitude in this thread?

Her attitude might be something to do with some of the unpleasant comments about her?

phoenixrosehere · 06/08/2024 17:18

EI12 · 06/08/2024 17:00

I am sorry, but I am glad it happened. Now you will know how kids feel, when in class they give out invites. One for you, one for you, none for you, one for you. I think that woman is a bitch and I hope you will make a firm rule for your school - no birthday parties unless every child gets an invite (if it is only a boys' party, then all boys, same goes for girls). I shall never forget (it has been a good 13 years) a begging mum, asking another mum 'Why did you not invite my ....', every boy got an invite, why did you not invite him?

That actually can backfire if the child invites the whole class and only a few turn up though. I’ve seen that happen and it is heartbreaking for the child. Still remember them being reminded that they shouldn’t have done so because their mum told them only to invite specific people instead.

NotTerfNorCis · 06/08/2024 17:19

Inviting most people and not inviting a few is a spiteful move. Others are going to notice, which makes it even worse.

Justcallmebebes · 06/08/2024 17:19

Theresalwaystomorrowihope · 06/08/2024 15:52

Seems to me quite a few pp are making quite unpleasant unfounded assumptions about OP.

I agree. There's some really nasty comments.

OP it sucks and I get you, but not a lot you can do other than hold your head up and refuse to show you're bothered and if you haven't already put in the collection, don't

BetteLaSwet · 06/08/2024 17:19

Packingcubesqueen · 06/08/2024 15:26

I wasn’t hiding that fact. Obviously this is why I’m posting.

I think it’s fair enough for her to only invite people she likes on a night out.

When I left my last job I decided I didn’t like any of them enough to spend an evening of my time with so I didn’t even have a night out. Smiled through the phony leaver lunch and never looked back.

EyeRolling23 · 06/08/2024 17:25

Packingcubesqueen · 06/08/2024 15:28

She may not like me but I have no issue with her.

But if she doesn't like you why would she want you at her leaving so, and why would you want to go- presumably you don't care that she is leaving?

StrawberryWasp · 06/08/2024 17:27

It's shitty to invite nearly everyone and leave a couple of people out.

Fine if there's a small particular friendhsip group to socialise seperately, but when practically the whole staff are going it should be everyone.

It sounds like something being done to be delibrately hurtful or as a power move to establish in group/ out group dynamic.

It's shitty when people go along with this group ostracisation, but they do because they want to be in the in group.

Sounds to me OP you've been targetted as the 'outcast' whihc provides a useful role to bond the larger group. You don't have to have done anything in particular to get this role, it can just be establsihed through a few influential people making it clear to the others you are not liked and not to be included. The wider group then fall in line.

It's horrible to experience. But try to see it for what it is, not a reflection on you, and concentrate on what you know is real: your actual friends and family.

Viviennemary · 06/08/2024 17:28

You are obviously not happy. I would give her lunch a miss Give 50p to her leaving collection.

Packingcubesqueen · 06/08/2024 17:28

EyeRolling23 · 06/08/2024 17:25

But if she doesn't like you why would she want you at her leaving so, and why would you want to go- presumably you don't care that she is leaving?

I’m glad she’s leaving now but I didn’t fell like that yesterday. I’m not desperate for a night out just hurt that I’m disliked I suppose. But clearly I’m too sensitive.

OP posts:
Whatonearthdidyousay · 06/08/2024 17:28

Look, you don't like this person. I don't understand why you'd want to be included. Make the most of the lunch and if it's a boozy one, get as hammered as would be allowed.

Packingcubesqueen · 06/08/2024 17:29

StrawberryWasp · 06/08/2024 17:27

It's shitty to invite nearly everyone and leave a couple of people out.

Fine if there's a small particular friendhsip group to socialise seperately, but when practically the whole staff are going it should be everyone.

It sounds like something being done to be delibrately hurtful or as a power move to establish in group/ out group dynamic.

It's shitty when people go along with this group ostracisation, but they do because they want to be in the in group.

Sounds to me OP you've been targetted as the 'outcast' whihc provides a useful role to bond the larger group. You don't have to have done anything in particular to get this role, it can just be establsihed through a few influential people making it clear to the others you are not liked and not to be included. The wider group then fall in line.

It's horrible to experience. But try to see it for what it is, not a reflection on you, and concentrate on what you know is real: your actual friends and family.

Thank you

OP posts:
jennii · 06/08/2024 17:30

Sometimes people have to do this. My colleague recently got basically forced out / left with no job to go to. No way could he invite everyone to his leaving do. The small discomfort they felt being left out was nothing compared to what had happened to him-

whereisthelifethatirecognize · 06/08/2024 17:31

Ivehearditbothways · 06/08/2024 15:53

Sorry, but when someone says they are often excluded… then it’s clear there is some kind of issue with them. We all have some people who we don’t get on with or who don’t like us, but when you’re habitually excluded by more than one or two people then there is something going on. There is a reason.

I've seen this in schools where the teachers are autistic and miss a few social cues sometimes and others do in fact exclude them and treat them poorly. It's really shitty.

BlueSmurfPantMan · 06/08/2024 17:33

She doesn't like you and you said she has invited a load of bitchy people.

Why would you even want to go?

Are you going to the lunch?

lazyarse123 · 06/08/2024 17:34

Yes it's a dick move. A bit like all the nasty pp who are implying that the op is some sort of pariah.
I would be upset too op.

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