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Partner won't ever go down on me

178 replies

Mixedfeelings24 · 05/08/2024 09:13

Posting for trafficand namechabted. I'm not sure if I'm being unreasonable here but feeling conflicted my lovely partner of 9 years just doesn't do oral. I thought I was fine with this and had resigned myself to not having this anymore as the other things he brings to the relationship are great.

Recently though I found out in the past not long before me he was infatued with another woman and more or less performed on demand, rightly or wrongly this has rocked my confidence and made me feel he can't possibly physically want me as much

YABU - No one should do what they don't want

YANBU - If he was giving in the past why not now

OP posts:
Mixedfeelings24 · 05/08/2024 10:42

XiCi · 05/08/2024 10:40

Was coming on to say exactly this. There's a vast proportion of women that only orgasm with oral which is probably why pp have called him selfish. There are many women that would choose not to be with someone that doesn't give oral.

Having said that the OP seems more concerned that there was a woman in the past that her DP was so enamoured with he was willing to do whatever it takes to be with her, he desperatelyjust wanted to please her and make her happy. So it's not necessarily the sex, it could be that he bought flowers for her every week or made breakfast in bed or planned weekends away for her when he would never bother doing that for the OP. Is thst right OP? If so, I totally get it. I think we all like to think that if we have a long term partner that we are the most important thing to them, not that there were women in the past that they cherished and wanted more.

Yes, yes and yes that second paragraph has hit the nail on the head.

OP posts:
Mumoftwo1316 · 05/08/2024 10:42

Startingagainandagain · 05/08/2024 10:31

@Berga
'No one should have to perform any sexual act they don't want to.'

Exactly.

@Mumoftwo1316
'I'm sorry op, I can't imagine a man who is selfish in bed'.

That is really immature. Having boundaries that include not doing something you don't enjoy doing is not 'selfish'.

Would you say the same thing if it was a woman stating she does not enjoy giving oral sex or having anal sex but her partner is really keen on it? would you call her 'selfish'? I doubt it.

I would also stop worrying about what happened years ago with other partners. It is irrelevant to your current relationship.

I refer you to my comment at 10.17am.

And I think what is "immature" and frankly misogynist is treating all sexual acts as equivalent, including those that cause lasting injuries to women.

tigger1001 · 05/08/2024 10:44

Borninabarn32 · 05/08/2024 10:01

And the immature "if you wont give it to me, I won't give it to you" is not OK. Turn sex into a war and nobody has fun.

Do things that you like doing to give him pleasure. You are also entitled to be pleasured, but that doesn't have to be oral. Is it a generally unsatisfactory sex life? There are other ways for him to pleasure you without his mouth and he should be exploring those. I don't know about anyone else but I masturbate quite happily and I can't use my mouth.

Absolutely this!!

This thread is disturbing on a few levels. And the "well stop giving him oral" is a big one

I don't give oral in order to receive it. I do it because I enjoy it. If my partner didn't enjoy giving me oral we'd find something else that gives me pleasure.

No one should do anything they don't enjoy doing. And saying well no more bjs unless I get oral is just coercive behaviour. I woukd absolutely hate to have my partner do something they didn't enjoy just to please me. It would very much have the opposite effect for me - a massive turn off for me. I would feel like a selfish woman if I thought my partner was doing something they disliked just to please me.

SwedeCarrotLimes · 05/08/2024 10:47

JennaRink · 05/08/2024 09:23

Well do you ask him to do it 'on demand' as the previous woman did? Rather than resign yourself

Personally OP it's a delbreaker for me and it seems to be for you. I couldn't go through life without oral and if my partner announced he'd no longer do it the relationship would be over.

You sound swell.

Although DH enjoys giving me oral but in recent years has suffered from TMJ issues which have made oral and eating in general quite painful. Despite several treatments it continuallly returns and I'd be more than happy to dial back and forego oral altogether to not to cause him additional pain if it comes to that.

Can't imagine leaving an otherwise amazing partner because of oral.

Kebarbra · 05/08/2024 10:52

Having said that the OP seems more concerned that there was a woman in the past that her DP was so enamoured with he was willing to do whatever it takes to be with her, he desperatelyjust wanted to please her and make her happy.

I don't think it's admirable that a woman he was enamoured with he felt obliged to perform a sexual act he wasn't comfortable with? It's healthy to have boundaries sexually, and affixing oral as a sign of being wanted or whatever has been done from OPs side and not from his.

SwedeCarrotLimes · 05/08/2024 10:55

Mixedfeelings24 · 05/08/2024 10:42

Yes, yes and yes that second paragraph has hit the nail on the head.

Why didn't you set that from the outset then? Your OP mentions nothing about your partner not treating you or caring for you as well as previous partners. The focus was entirely on the lack of oral after you found out he gave it to a previous partner.

If you're not feeling loved in general in the relationship that should be the bigger concern and focus.

betterangels · 05/08/2024 10:55

YABU. He doesn't want to. That's not an opening for a debate on why he should want to 'take care of you.'

Mixedfeelings24 · 05/08/2024 10:56

SwedeCarrotLimes · 05/08/2024 10:55

Why didn't you set that from the outset then? Your OP mentions nothing about your partner not treating you or caring for you as well as previous partners. The focus was entirely on the lack of oral after you found out he gave it to a previous partner.

If you're not feeling loved in general in the relationship that should be the bigger concern and focus.

Because I was struggling to make sense of what I was feeling? I only had the triggers

OP posts:
betterangels · 05/08/2024 10:57

Mixedfeelings24 · 05/08/2024 10:42

Yes, yes and yes that second paragraph has hit the nail on the head.

Then that's what the thead should have been about.

Beth216 · 05/08/2024 10:57

Doing things in desperation is never going to lead to a happy or healthy relationship OP, hopefully he's grown up since then and realised he's ok the way he is and can be himself with you.

tigger1001 · 05/08/2024 10:58

Op, do you really want him to be so infatuated with you he would do things he doesn't like?

Because that's what you are saying and that's not healthy.

A long term partnership is about mutual love and respect. Being infatuated isn't being in love or a sign of respectful relationship. It's a one sided relationship.

You have been together a long time. Forget what he's done in past relationships. Would you like it if he started comparing your behaviour in previous relationships when you were younger? Concentrate on whether you feel loved and respected. And if these aren't there, have a conversation around that. But without bringing an ex of over 9 years into it

thequickbrowndog · 05/08/2024 10:58

I would be upset by this, and rightly or wrongly assume that he wanted this other woman more than he wants me. My insecurities maybe but that's how I'd read it

Emmanuelll · 05/08/2024 11:00

If he won't do it for you, then stop doing it for him - that would be my advice!

Beth216 · 05/08/2024 11:00

Also after 9 years the romance and trying to impress someone just isn't there/isn't the same any more. It's a conversation to be had of course - but does he show he cares in other ways? Is he there for you emotionally? That's what you need in a long term relationship not flowers every week.

Emmanuelll · 05/08/2024 11:01

I don't give oral in order to receive it. I do it because I enjoy it.

I don't think most people enjoy it.

XiCi · 05/08/2024 11:02

Mixedfeelings24 · 05/08/2024 10:56

Because I was struggling to make sense of what I was feeling? I only had the triggers

You might be better starting another thread, everyone is so focused on the oral sex bit you'll probably struggle to get any meaningful advice. If hearing that from his friend was so triggering for you I'm guessing that the relationship is unfulfilling in other ways too.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 05/08/2024 11:03

Mixedfeelings24 · 05/08/2024 09:36

Yes I do give him blowjobs.

He didn't really have an answer re me it was more about her and how he did what she asked because he wanted more

Do you like giving blow jobs?
What he did years ago has no relevance now, I’d hate someone to do something in bed they no longer enjoy, it doesn’t matter why.

Emmanuelll · 05/08/2024 11:04

Surely the main issue here is the misogyny and the fact that this man is happy to do oral for people other than his wife. That would be hurtful for anyone.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 05/08/2024 11:06

Borninabarn32 · 05/08/2024 09:54

He doesn't like doing it. So he shouldn't do it.

The fact that when he was younger, a person had so much control over him that he did something he didn't want to do becuase he felt like she would ditch him if he didn't. Isn't about jealousy. It's about "I'm sorry you felt like that." NOT "Well if you did it for her why won't you do it for me even though I know you hate it." Imagine a man doing that to a woman. You know he doesn't like it. You know he didn't like it then either. It's good that he now has the confidence, with you, to not do something he doesn't like through fear of losing you.

I agree.

tigger1001 · 05/08/2024 11:09

Emmanuelll · 05/08/2024 11:01

I don't give oral in order to receive it. I do it because I enjoy it.

I don't think most people enjoy it.

If that is true, then you should be asking why you are all doing something you don't enjoy. That's absolutely not right. Don't like it, it's absolutely fine not to do it.

AngleClara · 05/08/2024 11:10

This thread is disturbing on a few levels. And the "well stop giving him oral" is a big one

Don't you think you're being a bit dramatic? Nothing wrong with not giving oral in return.

And even those who've called him selfish have justified their point. Nobody has implied anyone should be forced, more that she should have a talk and possibly reconsider the relationship.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 05/08/2024 11:11

Emmanuelll · 05/08/2024 11:04

Surely the main issue here is the misogyny and the fact that this man is happy to do oral for people other than his wife. That would be hurtful for anyone.

You're missing the point.

He most likely wasn't happy to do this, or the experience was soured because a young man was used sexually.

That's not misogyny.

It's really quite sad that he didn't have the self confidence back then to tell this girl that he would not be a performing monkey, and he was taken advantage of.

tigger1001 · 05/08/2024 11:12

Emmanuelll · 05/08/2024 11:04

Surely the main issue here is the misogyny and the fact that this man is happy to do oral for people other than his wife. That would be hurtful for anyone.

That would only be a (almost) valid argument if it wasn't a long time in the past with an ex.
Its ok to establish boundaries as we go through life. Healthy even.

Its not misogynistic to not enjoy oral sex. It's his personal preference.

We don't need to keep doing things for subsequent partners that we don't enjoy.

tigger1001 · 05/08/2024 11:16

AngleClara · 05/08/2024 11:10

This thread is disturbing on a few levels. And the "well stop giving him oral" is a big one

Don't you think you're being a bit dramatic? Nothing wrong with not giving oral in return.

And even those who've called him selfish have justified their point. Nobody has implied anyone should be forced, more that she should have a talk and possibly reconsider the relationship.

Nope not being dramatic. Just not into game playing. I don't do things in the bedroom I don't enjoy, and wouldn't stop doing something just because my partner didn't enjoy reciprocating. That's just childish. We'd find something else he did enjoy doing.

AngleClara · 05/08/2024 11:20

It would indeed be childish to stop something you enjoy, to spite your partner. But maybe op isn't so keen on giving oral either, if she considers it tempting. Regardless, I don't think it's particularly disturbing to not do oral.