Farage inciting hate and division - Hos much longer do we have to endure this hideous individual?

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So Farage now has a video statement on Twitter claiming that the current rioting is “nothing in comparison to what is to come.”

Anyone else hearing reverberations of Enoch Powell’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech back in the 70s?

He is also, ‘just putting it out there’ that the police and authorities are ‘withholding the truth’ - ie. insinuating that the murderer in the Southport tragedy was actually acting on behalf of a wider terrorist network and this is being hushed.

If this isn’t inciting fear, paranoia, violence and division, I don’t know what is!

I notice he’s gone very quiet about his pathetic accusation that Channel 4 tried to set-up Reform by somehow planting an ‘actor’ to trundle around Clacton spouting racist filth.

No Nigel, you know full well who that campaigner was - and the other Reform campaigners in Clacton caught on camera with their hate speech. These are your people.

I cannot abide this man. The damage he had caused to the U.K. I have been abroad this last month and don’t want to come back. Years and years he’s been provoking hate. He has ruined the country with Brexit - but he always has someone else to blame. I don’t think I’ve ever despised a U.K. politician so much. How much longer do we have to tolerate this?

If they weren't using foreigners as a pretext, it'd be gays, or left wing activists, or people from the next town. These people just dress their lust for disorder up in whichever clothes seem expedient.

Agree.
He's an utter shit stirrer, and there's just not enough done about those stoking up racial hatred /tensions online. It's not taken seriously enough, and well meaning (for want of a better phrase) people with so called "legitimate concerns" are getting swept up and radicalised.
My local FB page is absolutely vile lately. Not using that word lightly either.

Nigel Farage, Lee Anderson, Suella Braverman, GB News all want locking up & taking off air for fuelling the fires of the riots, they are the ones who have caused this. Suella Braverman speaking of swarms & invasions was frankly hate speech, Nigel Farage has been doing the same along with Lee Anderson, I feel sorry for the people of Clacton who didn't vote for him because they will be left without political representation as you can bet he won't be holding surgeries or doing the work he is supposed to do, he is too busy running after Donald Trump,the rest of Clacton who voted for him have got exactly what they deserved.

Yeah people with no brain cells need other people to do their thinking for them, and no I am not speaking about Farage or anyone other than the people rioting

I hope they get locked up and the key thrown away

Farage is a clever rich man, brainwashing a lot of hardworking but low income people.

Exactly. Made a lot of money out of his Brexit con, and is now on to the next grift. I hope that the people who voted for him weren’t actually expecting him to act as their local MP; they need to get used to not having one for the next five years.

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Where's your evidence of the numbers and how they pass their days, or why being men is relevant.

This. They are very dangerous people. Suella, Nigel, Priti Patel and our racist press all need to be held accountable. The people that are rioting are not the people that represent our communities not the country and certainly not the majority. The people who are rioting have for decades been terrorising our communities through anti social behaviour, drugs, crimes and all sorts. They are thugs. What our politicians and certain press have done for years is stir hatred and basically have been rattling a cage of poisonous snakes, they've been targeting their dangerous rhetoric to these people not the majority in this country. People who are out there damaging businesses, burning vehicles, libraries and attacking people on the streets and burning buildings where people are in are not frustrated people that should be listened to, they are criminals and criminal minded people that have been terrorising and disrupting our communities and our way of living. They are one of the few reason why our teachers are quitting education, the reason why our car insurances shoot up because of their crimes in certain areas, the reason why people want to move away from certain areas, the reason why businesses don't invest or the likes. They are like the armpits in our society where people want to avoid. So please don't tell me they are frustrated people.

What is it you think she stands for?

Can you explain this, Dotty? “from speaking to literally hundreds of people today whilst filming ”

Who was talking to hundreds of people while filming? Were you there filming or are you talking to Farage? I’m trying to understand your perspective.

I don't want Trump to win the US election. But one bonus would be that Farage would move over there. His incendiary speeches remind me of the bile and hatred Dr Ian Paisley would spew against Catholics - long before the Troubles started. Although the Rev Paisley was teetotal.
Nigel is Paisley with a pint.

It seems less harmful than the thugs out in Middlesbrough this weekend smashing up and setting fire to people's cars in working class neighbourhoods or throwing bricks through the windows of affordable homes. A lot of the serious vandalism was being carried out by children - what does that say for the future of society? It's violence and destruction for the sake of it. I'd say asylum seekers living in hotels are not the threat here. And if the rioters are angry about immigration, why burn and smash people's cars and wheelie bins and hurl bottles and bricks at the police? It makes no sense. All they want is a fight; they have no coherent purpose or justifiable pretext for their anger, and they're causing immense suffering to ordinary people just because they can.

Sitting in his little ivory tower in his london bubble he really is clueless.

How is this not describing Boris or Sunak?

Yes. It means this country gets to coexist with other countries in a global network underpinned by concepts of human rights and international law.

About sums it up for me...

No benefit of course. They are costing us money while they wait to be processed.

But what's the alternative? We can't stop people wanting to come here and we already take fewer than most of Europe.

Stoping them would be a vote-winner and successive governments have tried various methods. Many are stopped. We pay France to stop them, and many are stopped. We work in their countries of origin to discourage it at source. But some arrive, just like they arrive in virtually every other country.

And then we treat them humanely because it's the right thing to do.

They are put in hotels because countries that don't do that end up with tent cities.

We pay them £9 per week, or £40 per week, depending on how food is allocated in their accommodation, because it is right to provide food and toiletries. It's on a card to ensure it is spent on those things.

And then, if allowed to remain, they get jobs and pay taxes. Some claim benefits and commit crimes, it's inevitable that a percentage of any population will do this, but data suggests that they bring an economic advantage overall.

So what part do you disagree with? I guess some want their boats destroyed on approach? They don't want to admit that but that's exactly what they want.

The people involved in these protests can talk about not being listened to all they want but why should anyone listen when they can't articulate what they want :

1. Everyone I've seen interviewed has given a different reason for the 'protests'. It's immigrants, it's keeping kids safe, it's knife crime.

1. What they are asking for when they say 'stop the boats' is barbaric and impossible.

They are racist thugs intent on violence, or they are more moderate people who can't accept that they've been duped by racist thugs online or in their communities.

I'm glad the PM didn't say 'I'm listening'. I guess we'll all need to at least pretend we are once the dust settles but not now, they can't win by violence or feel that they've achieved anything.

I am going to say this, but what if he is right?

We really have to stop screaming down everyone that speaks from their truth and their lived experience, no matter how different or 'vile' we find it. The way we stop the riots is how we have always proceeded with difference in this country.

We sit down and talk about why these people are so aggrieved and angry. What IS going on for them? Just screaming and calling them far right thugs is only going to make things worse and feel even more othered, and even more likely to continue to riot. It is about time someone in government acknowledged the pressure and the issues (including immigration and the strain on the infrastructure) rather than simply close it down with insults, and started to ENGAGE with the issues.

I am horrified by the riots. Horrified.

I know from experience that you do not solve burning, long standing issues by insulting and silencing people.

At some point we are as a society going to have to acknowledge the difficulties this country is facing, and start to listen to each other.

I am deeply disappointed that Starmer's leadership so far has amounted to calling them FR thugs, almost inciting more violence. This is not going to work.

This eruption has been a long time coming, it is not going away, we need to start to treat the people that feel totally overlooked and ignored in this country with a measure of respect so they do not feel they have to smash up at their own towns to be heard.

I know many of you will kick off at my post, but that is part of the problem no?

Well it's necessary because of the stipulation that asylum seekers can't work until their case is decided. What would you like them to do while they wait?

I don't think they'd imagine themselves to have major support in those issues.

It's the Reform vote at the GE that has emboldened them. On top of which Farage is using his new found MP status as a combination of pretext and cloak for stirring the sediment up.

Has everyone seen his little editorials on GB news? I think I was a bit late finding the clips (I don't have Twix). It's really chilling the way he's treading this line.

@Hummingbird75 I'm with you

Tbf you can exist within those and not have what @lollipoprainbow said

As for the op I don’t really listen to any of them, but he is saying something bthat resonates to about half the number of voters than Labour. If the people weren’t feeling as they do he wouldn’t succeed

And no I didn’t vote for him / his party but many did

None, that is a Tory policy. They want to get, and should be, working after having their claims heard quickly and justly. Tories cut the number of home office staff and distracted them all into Brexit work.

I absolutely do not agree with the thugs who have started these riots. I suspect some have jumped on a band wagon.

However, Starmer has to a point incited this situation. He is sat in his socialist bubble and doesnt seem to be able to read the country. You only have to look at the emerging Reform vote to see that the mood is changing. Starmer has no plans to deal with immigration and sadly I think we are going to see a lot more of this.

’Two tier Keir’ is not helping matters either.

His press conference showed he is out of his depth.