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To be embarrassed to be from Hull right now?

494 replies

Chester23 · 03/08/2024 16:09

These "protests" just look like a load of people out for a fight. People on live steams talking about going to get beer and seem to be having a great time.
Causes are lost because of reasons like this? Why would I support you when you are destroying my city? Setting fire to bins? Throwing all sorts at the police. I can't support this.

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dogdaysareover · 03/08/2024 18:14

I am local. I am disgusted. I have a burning desire to organise some kind of peace protest. I don’t know how you do this but I just feel so powerless right now.

RationalityIsHard · 03/08/2024 18:15

ssd · 03/08/2024 16:13

You'd need to be a total arsehole to support this.

I think this all part of the plan to be honest.

No-one with half a brain wants to be associated with what's going on at the moment, so it actually suits the pro-globalists in charge to let something like this kick off so that anyone with any kind of vague sympathy for what these rioters are supposedly protesting against (too much immigration, lack of integration, the failure of multi-culturalism) doesn't dare to stick their head above the parapet and express their own views for fear of being lumped in with the morons and the actual racists.

Pineappleprep · 03/08/2024 18:15

Protests are taking place in my city today, vehicles have been set on fire and many people arrested

Multiple videos online showing masked Muslim men calling themselves the Muslim defence league, apparently they've stabbed someone but I've not seen any reliable confirmation of where this is taking place or if reports of their actions are accurate however this will not help matters whether it's true or not

pointythings · 03/08/2024 18:16

Livelovebehappy · 03/08/2024 17:34

You are joking right? You seriously think the UK is a better place to live than it was 16 years ago? Our infrastructure is on its knees. Most public services are far far worse than they’ve ever been.

Well yeah, but there's a reason for that.

Tories.

pointythings · 03/08/2024 18:16

GoodieMcTwoshoes · 03/08/2024 17:37

They could come here by legal routes rather than illegally. They used to have to make applications but now they just take advantage of us just letting them in.

And we all know that in the seemingly rare event a claim fails, a lot of them just 'disappear' and carry on living here as they are.

But it's not just 'asylum seekers'- it's all of the different forms of immigration. Supposedly there were going to be limits on who was able to come, but that seems to have gone out the window.

But anyway. I just empathise with people that feel that way, seeing their cities stop feeling like home etc. I try not to feel that way myself.

For one thing, there's no point.

There. Are. No. Legal. Routes.

Hope that's simple enough for you.

WooleyMunky · 03/08/2024 18:19

PandoraSox · 03/08/2024 18:11

Take Britain back from what?

From now.
Take Britain back to the glorious days of the Empire, obviously.
Woolton pies, the nit lady, gin was tuppence a bag and everyone had rickets.
BUT IT WAS BETTER THEN!!!

And other lunatic nonsense from the embittered right...

ilovesooty · 03/08/2024 18:19

pointythings · 03/08/2024 18:16

There. Are. No. Legal. Routes.

Hope that's simple enough for you.

Exactly.

Bouledeneige · 03/08/2024 18:19

Things are much worse. Public services are on their knees but that's the consequence of austerity, neglect, Brexit and Covid. We also have huge skills gaps - particularly in health and social care caused by Brexit. The NHS couldn't function without ethnic minorities at every level - from care workers to porters to nurses to or consultants. Nor could the police or local government.

TattiePants · 03/08/2024 18:20

2dogsandabudgie · 03/08/2024 18:05

You're contradicting yourself. You're saying that your neighbours were involved in the riots but then saying that no one you know was involved. You must know who your neighbours are if you know they were involved.

I'm not contradicting myself at all. Sunderland is a former town and very small city. I live in a lovely area but I only have to walk a few minutes to be in a not so nice area where there's antisocial behaviour, generational poverty, low aspirations and many other social problems that are unfortunately a breeding ground for developing the views these 'protesters' have. They are therefore my neighbours or if you'd prefer, my community.

ArmFromUll · 03/08/2024 18:20

IntoTheMild · 03/08/2024 17:06

I just wish they wouldn’t drink. We do need to take Britain back, but we’ll never get it back with these men behind the protests. Their behaviour makes a mockery out of a very real problem!

You're so right about taking our country back. This picture is for you.

To be embarrassed to be from Hull right now?
AdviceNeeded2024 · 03/08/2024 18:21

Pineappleprep · 03/08/2024 18:15

Protests are taking place in my city today, vehicles have been set on fire and many people arrested

Multiple videos online showing masked Muslim men calling themselves the Muslim defence league, apparently they've stabbed someone but I've not seen any reliable confirmation of where this is taking place or if reports of their actions are accurate however this will not help matters whether it's true or not

I think that’s Stoke, I saw a video online two people were stabbed there, nothing on news sites so far though

Scarflife · 03/08/2024 18:22

There. Are. No. Legal. Routes.

Hope that's simple enough for you.

Exactly, this used to come up every week on BBC question time and the Tory MP on the panel always tried to weasel their way out of responding to that fact of there being a lack of legal routes for the vast majority of countries.

I wonder if/what Labour will do about this.

but let’s face it - the people who bleat about people should come by legal routes would complain still if refugees entered via that too. Too much wilful ignorance!

EasternStandard · 03/08/2024 18:24

Scarflife · 03/08/2024 18:22

There. Are. No. Legal. Routes.

Hope that's simple enough for you.

Exactly, this used to come up every week on BBC question time and the Tory MP on the panel always tried to weasel their way out of responding to that fact of there being a lack of legal routes for the vast majority of countries.

I wonder if/what Labour will do about this.

but let’s face it - the people who bleat about people should come by legal routes would complain still if refugees entered via that too. Too much wilful ignorance!

Labour could add more legal routes, there are some so it’s not none, about 60k on average per year for various schemes

Even if Labour tripled this number they’d still have the growing trafficking problem, with the accompanying deaths and disorder

2dogsandabudgie · 03/08/2024 18:24

pointythings · 03/08/2024 18:16

There. Are. No. Legal. Routes.

Hope that's simple enough for you.

Yes there are legal routes.

Ginmonkeyagain · 03/08/2024 18:26

Jeez what is it with some English towns over the last few days - did someone leave the revolving cunt door open?

RationalityIsHard · 03/08/2024 18:27

Scarflife · 03/08/2024 18:22

There. Are. No. Legal. Routes.

Hope that's simple enough for you.

Exactly, this used to come up every week on BBC question time and the Tory MP on the panel always tried to weasel their way out of responding to that fact of there being a lack of legal routes for the vast majority of countries.

I wonder if/what Labour will do about this.

but let’s face it - the people who bleat about people should come by legal routes would complain still if refugees entered via that too. Too much wilful ignorance!

So I presume you are in favour of legal routes then, yes? If so, how many would you like to be set up, where would you do it, and how many refugees should we invite into our country? Because there are millions of people who would qualify for refugee status and, with climate change doing its thing, that's only going to increase.

Unless you're in favour of there being no limit (which would be batshit), then actually you're closer to the position of the person saying they want no refugees than you might like to think.

TattiePants · 03/08/2024 18:28

@Demonhunter looks like things are kicking off again in Sunderland. The Empire Theatre has cancelled tonight's performance, some restaurants are closing early and there's a police build up around Keel Square. Seems to be a lot of kids causing low-level trouble.

Ponkpinkpink15 · 03/08/2024 18:28

We need to improve the processing. If we were processing much more quickly we wouldn't have large numbers of disenfranchised angry (mostly) young men in large numbers, bored out of their brains.

but I STILL have NO idea what this has to do with a 17 year old born in Cardiff, to parents who (from all I've read/heard) we decent people from Rwanda (which is largely Roman Catholic I believe)

I must have missed great chunks of updates OR it just makes no fucking sense.

the idiot who got bitten by the dog (hope the poor thing was given a good mouthwash). Should have been chucked in the back
of a van when he FIRST started shouting his mouth off.

Rosscameasdoody · 03/08/2024 18:29

SmokeBlackCat · 03/08/2024 16:24

I saw that on the news. What kind of person takes babies and young children (or even older children) to a riot! Even if I thought I was going to a peaceful protest I’d think twice and if I somehow ended up somewhere with my children I’d leave at the first hint of trouble.

She was interviewed on Sky News and said that she and her child were there’ to support the people of Southport’. I live quite close to where the tragedy took place and saw something of the trouble caused by these thugs as a consequence. I fail to see how it ‘supports’ anybody here, especially when the mother of one of the dead children was appealing for people not to engage in violence in the name of her child.

Ponkpinkpink15 · 03/08/2024 18:31

Ginmonkeyagain · 03/08/2024 18:26

Jeez what is it with some English towns over the last few days - did someone leave the revolving cunt door open?

@Ginmonkeyagain

apparently they did, yes.

bit don't ask what's wrong with these towns. It's nothing to do with the towns themselves. They're just bussed in thugs.

Bouliegirl · 03/08/2024 18:33

Apparently the illegal immigrants where I live are lazy bastards who get everything for free (rent, food, clothes, taxis, sky tv, mobile phones, electrical tin opener and matching luggage) on the taxpayers dime. But simultaneously work all the hours they can in security jobs for low wages so no one else can get a job

RationalityIsHard · 03/08/2024 18:37

Bouliegirl · 03/08/2024 18:33

Apparently the illegal immigrants where I live are lazy bastards who get everything for free (rent, food, clothes, taxis, sky tv, mobile phones, electrical tin opener and matching luggage) on the taxpayers dime. But simultaneously work all the hours they can in security jobs for low wages so no one else can get a job

You do realise that both could actually be true at the same time (if you don't lump them all into the same group). Just like it's true of the rest of the population.

Gilbertwasawuss · 03/08/2024 18:37

It's absolutely terrible.

The problem is "normal" people have been sitting at home getting more and more dissatisfied with the current state of things.

Bills are too high, NHS is a shambles, education is a desperate fumble to produce children that can barely cope with the adult world, mental health is at rock bottom, families once able to manage on their wages are now going into debt.

People are desperate and don't see anyone doing anything to help.

The UK is a pressure cooker right now and this was going to happen this year. It wasn't an "if" it was "when".
The events recently have just given those people who are inclined to do these things an excuse.

I do not in any way support these idiots... but I have been sat with very reasonable, educated people literally saying "what do we do"? "How can we get things to change"?

Voting for various political parties doesn't do much (if anything) anymore. It's basically to keep us quiet and make us thing we have some semblance of power.

If changes aren't made on all levels in the UK, then things are only going to get worse and riots like this are just the beginning.

Ginmonkeyagain · 03/08/2024 18:37

Imagine having all the benefits of being born in a decent, well ordered, democratic country with free health care and free education from 5 to 18 and being jealous of people fleeing a life of persecution or economic misery to living in a shit a temporary hotel and get £40 or so a week to live on.

LlynTegid · 03/08/2024 18:38

OP you are right and I agree with your condemnation of what has happened in Hull and other places.

Hull when I have visited seems to have had limited investment despite being City of Culture.

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