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Michael Jackson

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C4tintherug · 03/08/2024 12:00

Why has Michael Jackson not been cancelled?

I don’t understand why a musical has been made out of his music, and why his music is played at school discos and is still everywhere.

After I watched the documentary where the men described how he raped them, I won’t listen to his music at all, in fact, I feel a sense of disgust when it is played publicly.

I don’t understand why we seem to have cancelled everyone else except him. Is it because he died before he was officially found guilty?

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Hakunatomato · 03/08/2024 15:11

Jimmy Saville never faced Trial. Tapes of all the shows he was ever in are not published by the BBC etc. I was offered tickets free, for the MJ show. I did not go, out of principle.

Brexile · 03/08/2024 15:11

cupcaske123 · 03/08/2024 14:43

He was dating her after they met. How could a 24 year old find a child sexually attractive?

They were dating (and Priscilla was thus being "groomed" in modern parlance) but I think she claims that they didn't go all the way until they were married - or at least not long before, as IIRC Lisa-Marie was born nine months after the wedding! She may be telling the truth, as Elvis wouldn't have wanted to get her pregnant and thus reveal to the world that he had slept with her - he saw what happened to Jerry Lee Lewis, after all.

Priscilla was a great beauty at 14 and looked much older than she was. I think there's hardly a straight man in the world who wouldn't have wanted her. I agree that Elvis should have left her well alone when he found out her age, which I think he knew from the very beginning.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 03/08/2024 15:12

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Exactly. They're rabid. The hatred for Michael Jackson - who was not convicted or found guilty of ANYthing - is fierce. And quite bizarre. The anger coming from a few posters on here is palpable. In the words of Taylor Swift 'you need to calm DOWN. You're being too LOUD!'

ChishiyaBat · 03/08/2024 15:12

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Thanks for that, i've never seen that before, but seems accurate to me😂😂😂.

And no MJ thread is complete without this...

Lilysgoneshopping · 03/08/2024 15:13

HungryLittleCrocodile · 03/08/2024 14:20

MJ has never been convicted of anything.

HTH.

I will listen to his amazing music until the day I day. 😎

Neither has Jimmy Savile 😕

raspberryberet7 · 03/08/2024 15:13

C4tintherug · 03/08/2024 12:00

Why has Michael Jackson not been cancelled?

I don’t understand why a musical has been made out of his music, and why his music is played at school discos and is still everywhere.

After I watched the documentary where the men described how he raped them, I won’t listen to his music at all, in fact, I feel a sense of disgust when it is played publicly.

I don’t understand why we seem to have cancelled everyone else except him. Is it because he died before he was officially found guilty?

I 100% agree with you but unfortunately he died an innocent man

Getonwitit · 03/08/2024 15:14

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I don't why people think MJ could sing, he was mediocre at best but he was a great showman.

Brexile · 03/08/2024 15:14

HungryLittleCrocodile · 03/08/2024 15:12

Exactly. They're rabid. The hatred for Michael Jackson - who was not convicted or found guilty of ANYthing - is fierce. And quite bizarre. The anger coming from a few posters on here is palpable. In the words of Taylor Swift 'you need to calm DOWN. You're being too LOUD!'

His Voldemort plastic surgery face and creepy breathy little girl voice make me feel sick, and always have. It's not the "haters" who are bizarre!

ChishiyaBat · 03/08/2024 15:15

@HungryLittleCrocodile amazing? Average at best more like!

Noseybookworm · 03/08/2024 15:15

I only watched the documentary quite recently but I have to say that having seen it, I do feel differently about Michael Jackson's music. I used love it but when I hear it now, it gives me the ick 🤢

Iwasafool · 03/08/2024 15:15

Hadjab · 03/08/2024 13:50

This is key for me. MJ may or may not have assaulted those boys, I honestly don’t know, and I’ve watched the documentaries, but why, why would you send your child to stay in house of a man that you basically do not know? I don’t care how famous he is, it’s just wrong. And this also goes for the parents of Usher, who allowed their child to live with Diddy.

Exactly this and the parents should be held accountable for facilitating whatever happened.

raspberryberet7 · 03/08/2024 15:15

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Jimmy Saville

Tourmalines · 03/08/2024 15:16

Getonwitit · 03/08/2024 15:14

I don't why people think MJ could sing, he was mediocre at best but he was a great showman.

Too true . Weak voice .

cupcaske123 · 03/08/2024 15:16

Brexile · 03/08/2024 15:11

They were dating (and Priscilla was thus being "groomed" in modern parlance) but I think she claims that they didn't go all the way until they were married - or at least not long before, as IIRC Lisa-Marie was born nine months after the wedding! She may be telling the truth, as Elvis wouldn't have wanted to get her pregnant and thus reveal to the world that he had slept with her - he saw what happened to Jerry Lee Lewis, after all.

Priscilla was a great beauty at 14 and looked much older than she was. I think there's hardly a straight man in the world who wouldn't have wanted her. I agree that Elvis should have left her well alone when he found out her age, which I think he knew from the very beginning.

You're coming out with paedophilic excuses in an effort to protect a predator. Bill Wyman said the same thing about 13 year old Mandy Smith, that she had the face of a child but the body of a woman. You're tarring all men with the same brush, I doubt many would find a child alluring.

Rosscameasdoody · 03/08/2024 15:17

Tourmalines · 03/08/2024 15:08

Calm down yourself. You need to cool off .

That’s rich. You haven’t produced anything but conjecture and opinion, and you’re wading in with insults against anyone who disagrees with you, to the point of insults. I suggest a cool shower🚿 and a nice lie down🛌.

QueenMegan · 03/08/2024 15:19

If he were so innocent why did he settle out of court and pay hush money.
A pedophile sees nothing wrong with showing love to children and often vulnerable children who they deem in need of such attention.

Like many abusers they are extremely adept at hiding manipulating and presenting a different voice.

I won't be seeing the show and I can not listen to his music

Brexile · 03/08/2024 15:19

Getonwitit · 03/08/2024 15:14

I don't why people think MJ could sing, he was mediocre at best but he was a great showman.

A great dancer, though I can't stand to watch him because he was a creep. The popularity of his music is a mystery to me - it just sounds like a creepier falsetto-ier version of what every other mediocre pop star was doing at the time. Maybe Jackson's music is ephemeral after all, and will be forgotten when the last Gen Xer is gone. We were the ones who all seemed obsessed with the man in one way or another, whether we collected his albums or hid behind the sofa when he was on the telly!

ChishiyaBat · 03/08/2024 15:19

Nonce sympathisers gonna sympathise with nonces!

He might have died found innocent in a court of law, but he groomed children and nothing will ever convince me otherwise!

Totallywoah · 03/08/2024 15:19

And for all those saying he just liked being around children because of his childhood do you not find it strange that he seemed to have a type.. Never little girls??!
There's not another person on earth who could go on television and for any reason say that they enjoy sharing their beds with multiple children and think that was acceptable.
Along with all the other shit like dangling a baby by its neck from a window.. But then you know, Thriller was an amazing album so let's ignore it,

jen337 · 03/08/2024 15:20

Brexile · 03/08/2024 15:11

They were dating (and Priscilla was thus being "groomed" in modern parlance) but I think she claims that they didn't go all the way until they were married - or at least not long before, as IIRC Lisa-Marie was born nine months after the wedding! She may be telling the truth, as Elvis wouldn't have wanted to get her pregnant and thus reveal to the world that he had slept with her - he saw what happened to Jerry Lee Lewis, after all.

Priscilla was a great beauty at 14 and looked much older than she was. I think there's hardly a straight man in the world who wouldn't have wanted her. I agree that Elvis should have left her well alone when he found out her age, which I think he knew from the very beginning.

14 and looked much older than she was. I think there's hardly a straight man in the world who wouldn't have wanted her.

One of the most problematic things I’ve read on here in a while. So pedohilia’s ok because the poor men can’t help themselves if she ‘looks older’ and is very attractive?

Brexile · 03/08/2024 15:22

cupcaske123 · 03/08/2024 15:16

You're coming out with paedophilic excuses in an effort to protect a predator. Bill Wyman said the same thing about 13 year old Mandy Smith, that she had the face of a child but the body of a woman. You're tarring all men with the same brush, I doubt many would find a child alluring.

No, I don't want to protect those men. But you asked how Elvis could have found Priscilla attractive, and I said that she looked much older - and also that he should have left her alone when he found out that she wasn't older!

CantHoldMeDown · 03/08/2024 15:22

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Colinfromaccounts · 03/08/2024 15:24

He probably was a paedophile. That doesn’t mean that his music isn’t an inescapable part of pop culture history. What are you going to do? Loads of artists are absolute cunts and criminals.

CantHoldMeDown · 03/08/2024 15:24

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