to say women don't have XY chromosomes?

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Seeing a lot of posts on social media with people admitting they were "wrong" to call Imane Khelif a man, and that they now understand "she's a woman with XY chromosomes."

Am I going insane? A person with XY chromosomes is male! (Regardless of how they identify, of course.) Why are people saying stuff that is obviously nonsensical? Are people really that ignorant of basic biological facts?

They are not dominating female sports.

Really, American female cyclists would disagree with you!

But one of those bodies did tests in two separate independent labs, and the other looked at a document which says what the owner chooses it to say. Why would you give their conclusions equal weight?

Sorry - your “point” (whatever it was) does not stand, this is not a complex issue. They are men. There are two sexes. They were fighting women. This was wrong.

But one of those bodies did tests in two separate independent labs, and the other looked at a document which says what the owner chooses it to say. Why would you give their conclusions equal weight?

Why would the IOC?

There is nuance to this that this person was born and raised as a woman and has female sex organs.

I haven't made up my mind yet.

Obviously but the man ranked 699 isn't getting anywhere near men's Wimbledon or the US Open is he?

Sure. And I do agree that there needs to be some stratification to allow women to be celebrated/
win medals in professional sports

So is this boxer a feminist? No hijab. Are you proud of this? Are you amplifying Muslim women who are promoting this boxers feminist stance against the hijab?

That's a ridiculous argument.

And I think you know it.

She was identified female at birth despite her abnormal external anatomy, in a country where homosexuality or abnormal sexual phenotypy are illegal. By the time she was 10/11 it would have been obvious that she was entering puberty without the features of a young woman; no pelvis change, no menstruation, no breasts, the unfortunate armpit smell of a developing boy , sudden jump in height and strength. And then once the Dr has her on file the sports coaches come around. Please do not for one moment think that her DSD was a surprise 2 years ago.
She has broken no rule. The question is; should XY DSD people with androgen sensitivity be allowed to compete against XX women ?

What? What has being Muslim and the hijab got to do with anything??

Worth remembering that people were rebuked and gaslighted for years by the media and the IOC about Caster Semenya being female. Until it all came out in a court case and now they have to admit Semenya has a DSD that only affects males.

Too late for all the women who lost out to Semenya (and the other 2 males on the 2016 podium). Women whom have never been apologised, compensated or had their rightful win recognised.

The IOC and the media will lie to us all until they can't anymore.

He was a mediocre weight lifter in the male category prior to transition and then magically won gold at the Pacific Games in the women's competition, which means a woman who had spent years training lost out.

The average age of female weight lifters at the last Olympics was 26, Hubbard was about 40.

A female Pacific Island (Samoan iirc) weight lifter missed out on her Olympic dream because an entitled man took her place.

www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-30/transgender-athletes-in-the-pacific-under-fire/11360854

The IOC only required boxers who wanted to box in the women's competition to have a passport which says they're female. That's all they checked. And a lot of countries allow self ID as male, female or neither in passports. So the IOCs definition of female is useless.

The IOC deliberately dropped fairness in women's sports in favour of 'inclusion' - meaning including males with DSDs and gender feelings. They sold women's sport out in favour of males getting what they wanted. This isn't an error, this is their policy.

A DNA test versus a letter on a passport.

Complex indeed.

So no modest clothing, no hijab? Muslim and yet no comment?

So your theory is she transitioned to rob a cis woman of a gold medal she was entitled to?

One example of a trans woman winning a gold medal in the pacific games, isn’t the end of female sports.

It's not a theory and we also know his father actually bought the competition.

All women?

Even the ones called Kenneth?

Not a 'cis woman'.

A woman.

There is only one kind of woman.

But when you say "women", you include men, so this is just dishonesty and doublethink masked in Newspeak. And earlier on, you asked what the point was in having female athletes if men could beat them, so why do you suddenly care now?

So this is a Muslim woman about to become very rich without any word about the French hijab ban?

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