To think the Khelif issue is now raising more big questions in sport

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Biological men should not be fighting women how is this even happening ?? Two 'women' failed eligibility tests by the IBA. Yet the IOC deem them suitable it's mind boggling

Dsd seems to be incredibly rare, what are the odds of so many athletes being affected?

The majority of posters are so entrenched in their feminist attitude...

To be fair, it was always a Poundshop mask, but it's nice to see it fall right off.

Quite high when you consider that these DSDs give a competitive advantage in women's sport.

As I said in my post, they could have challenged the IBA ruling, which would have given them access to the the evidence and tests that the IBA performed, they could also have found a fully independent body to have their own tests done.

Didn’t do either of those things, begs the question why not.

@vivainsomnia prove that I am wrong and I absolutely will apologise for being wrong, until then I will continue to believe the evidence I can see with my own eyes and read with my own eyes thank you very much.

"People being over 7' tall is incredibly rare, what are the odds of so many players in the National Basketball Association being over 7' tall?"

I just described one possible reason. Did you not read it?

It’s said that those who were observed female at birth with DSD are actively sought out for female based competition. Obviously that’s more hearsay than anything, but a country will send whoever they believe best suited to win a category for sure. Whatever loopholes they can take advantage of.

This is a ridiculous analogy

I think sex class can be ambiguous, which makes things difficult. I often see people on here claiming all people with DSD are clearly male or female but this may not be necessarily as clear cut as we want it to be. I knew someone who confessed to me she had a condition that made her genetically male body (XY) insensitive to male hormones, so she developed as a woman outwardly; she looked like a tiny squeaky-voiced girl and nobody would have doubted her femininity based on appearances. What would be this person's sports class? Female based on common sense, but genetically she is male.

It's as brutally simple and straightforward as that alas.

Some people who have no ovaries but a uterus and who don’t process the testosterone their bodies produce have been recorded as gestating a child.

This is incredibly rare and they have not produced the egg that was fertilised.

Still a male with a male only DSD that cannot impact a female person who has ovaries.

You have just leveraged people with Swyers to attempt score political points. People with swyers do not have virilisation so they are irrelevant to this discussion. Except for you trying for a ‘gotcha’ as you have just tried.

How so?

No, the evidence is in front of you. Just days ago this guy took loads of pics off. He is a man, xy chromosome. His legs, thighs and his hips especially don't lie. This is his instragram. He was born with anomaly, sexual development, but is a man and shouldn't box against women. Play darts maybe, but that's it. He punched a woman hard and is allowed to because people like you think she trained and just gave up after 46 fucking seconds by being punched hard by xy chromosome with balls showing through his shorts. Women are finished because collectively people like you make up shit, and that poor girl now has to aapologise to fucking bloke. If I wasn't a feminist before, I am now!

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/imane-khelifs-olympic-participation-decried-letter-opponents-boxing-112508936

'The Hungarian Boxing Association says it is sending letters of protest to both the IOC and Hungary’s Olympic committee over Anna Luca Hamori’s quarterfinal matchup with Imane Khelif '

The whole affair is not doing international sporting relations much good.

There needs to be more transparency if the Olympics don't want this to overshadow the whole event. It's not going away.

It's almost as if having a Y chromosome gives you a competitive advantage in sport the same way being 7ft tall does.

People who are 7ft tall are, of course, almost guaranteed to have a Y chromosome.

As has been noted several times now, if we all believe your xenophobia about Russia always being the enemy, surely the disqualification would have been appealed? This isn’t just a ‘well that’s rude but I’ll move on’ situation - this is a serious blight on someone’s career, their way of making money. To have titles taken away from you and being accused of basically being the ultimate type of cheat, no woman would walk away from that kind of accusation without serious complaint. Especially knowing it would be brought up again on a bigger stage like the Olympics.

Well done for explaining very clearly, Helle. But boring old facts won’t convince someone who’s sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting Lalala.

😂😂 Xenophobic against Russians. I hope Putin is at least paying you to be his shill.

allegedly just been unfairly disqualified by the Russian-led IBA for beating a Russian boxer

Apparently not so, Howard.

9. "The IBA only disqualified L & K because they beat Russian boxers at the 2023 championships!" No they did not. I started seeing this weird, completely false claim circulating over the last 24 hours. Khelif beat Thailand's Janjaem Suwannapheng and was set to compete against China's Yang Liu for gold in the Welterweight category. Lin beat Bulgaria's Svetlana Kamenova Staneva for bronze in the Featherweight category. They were scheduled to fight no Russian boxers in either one of their categories, and only one Russian boxer won a gold medal in the entire championship (Anastasiia Demurchian, Light Middleweight).

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Who are you suggesting has a Y chromosome and how do you know this?

Hold your horses there Shakira, what did I make up? She did say she was angry because 'her Olympics' had gone up in smoke and she has apologised. Not sure what I have made up.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/boxers-olympics-imane-khelif-lin-yu-ting-gender-eligibility-rcna164257

@LostTheMarble As has been noted several times now, if we all believe your xenophobia about Russia always being the enemy, surely the disqualification would have been appealed

As has been noted several times now, to whom would a boxer appeal their IBA disqualification to, other than to the IBA?

But I am greatly amused by your insinuation that my distrust of Russia's ethics regarding sports is due to "xenophobia". Can your memory be so short that you have forgotten that the IBA was banned because of ethics violations? Or that Russia as a whole was banned from the Olympics for systematic doping?

Do you generally believe what Russian-led organisations say, or is the IBA an exception?

Made to apologise. Was very vocal yesterday about WHY her olympic dream was lost. And it's not just that. The fucker knows full well he is cheating. His instragram alone shows you whom he really is, and always had been and definitely shouldn't be competing in any combat sport against real women. Like I said. Stick to playing darts🙄