To be glad that #IStandWithAngelaCarini is trending no.1 in the UK on X (Twitter)

[AngeloMysterioso]

Angela Carini is the incredibly brave Italian boxer who had her Olympic dream shattered in less than a minute after being punched in the face by Imane Khelif, a male competitor who was disqualified from the women’s World Championships last year because his testosterone levels were too high.
Everyone should be saying her name. Over and over and over again.

Take that up with the IBA who has tested both men and declared that they are not female.

If they are not female and have XY chromosomes then they are male. Both of them.

I dunno. Not checked. Pondering this myself....

oh my goodness - she is not trans!!

SHE is female.
SHE has female reproductive organs.
SHE could carry a baby to term.

You must have seen evidence most other people haven't then. Link it, please.

So would Tom Daley have picked this boxer as a surrogate then? I think not.

Going to refer to this situation anytime anyone thinks biological sex is clear and obvious, male or female.

Sex is entirely clear cut.

Gender is a social construct designed to oppress the female sex. Hth.

SHE is female.
SHE has female reproductive organs.
SHE could carry a baby to term.

Link to this please? I have not heard this at all.

"Gender" is clear cut, because it's just a set of stereotypes for each sex. Sex is binary but members of both sexes can have disorders of sex development.

We will be waiting for it! That lot love to post statements as if it's factual evidence but never have the hard evidence to back it up!! Keep calling them out, every single time. Demand a credible, factual link!

I saw the edit re gender...if you did mean that sex is clear cut then fine.

If this is true then fine but I agree can you provide evidence? I also can't find this info

If you have female genitalia but XY chromosomes. That’s not clear cut.

'Plus this particular athlete has been beaten by women at least 9 times previously, its not like they are steamrolling the competition?'

This is a claim that is based on falsehoods. The falsehood being that you are using this male athlete's mediocrity as leverage to allow them to compete in a protected sports category that they should not be competing in.

It doesn't matter that this athlete has not been good enough to win. They are male. Their body has been tested and found to have advantage, as per the IBA's statement.

Using the logic that you have used here, as long as this person doesn't ever win, that should be fine. It doesn't matter how many female athletes they harm along way. Either through injury or through taking a female athletes opportunity when they are male.

The point is, this is a category boundary being ignored for the sake of a person's feelings or to uphold their perception about themselves when that perception does not reflect their material reality.

Would you feel the same way about an unfit 25 year old playing a contact sport with a female who is over 65 years old when it was a masters category event? Is that ok with you as long as that person did not win? What if them being there significantly injured the competing female athletes ? That is what the logic you are using results in.

Male people have, in general, more than 160% the punch power of a typical female. These athletes that the IOC have allowed have at least that much more power behind their punch. We know this because the IBA stated they were not female people and that they had been assessed to have advantage over female athletes. ie. these are male athletes.

There are many physical advantages that these male athletes have. I am happy to list more if you need.

However, the female athletes that they are punching have safety needs that are rather different than male people need. Female people have a greater risk of brain damage due to our more delicate brain fibres. This has been studied and is documented. So... that 160+% power difference is significant to the safety of female athletes.

Additionally, our bones are less dense. So not only are female people more prone to brain damage from a punch, but we are more prone to have our bones broken by that punch. Especially facial bones.

So, no. It doesn't matter one fucking bit that this male athlete might lose.

@Redgreenfroggy sorry quoted yours instead of @Ereshkigalangcleg post

No, she’s a male bodied boxer, boxing a female bodied boxer. Someone’s daughter.

for fucks sake be angry for the right reasons and stop calling her a man.

He has XY chromosomes which makes him a man, though?

And I'm angry that a man punched a woman for sport.

Why do you think that's not the right reason to be angry? Surely women can be angry about things that naturally make us angry? Like men being allowed to punch us for entertainment.

Going to refer to this situation anytime anyone thinks biological sex is clear and obvious, male or female.

You're going to refer to a situation where a woman got beaten up by a male?

They won't be fully developed, and you are male in this scenario. Possinly observed female at birth which is where I have a little sympathy for this boxer, but fundamentally, in every cell in your body, male.

I removed gender to not confuse! But I did mean sex is not always clear cut.

If you have female genitalia but XY chromosomes

It's a medical disorder. XY is male. Sometimes there are problems and a foetus develops down the wrong pathway for their sex.

Have a look at the Algerian boxers personal Instagram page & decide for yourself...

Still filtered photos show a very different picture to someone moving.....

Re-posting this photo that was posted by nolongersurprised on page 21, to debunk the claim this man has female genitalia

No, it's the same... It actually really does cement home the general belief on here. The tests results state XY & I believe the Algerian boxer belongs firmly in the XY species as tests proved.