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A woman has to box a man today at the Olympics. AIBU to be scared for her?

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ilovemoney · 01/08/2024 10:28

Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif: Boxers cleared for Paris Olympics - BBC Sport

They are both biological males. Its to IOC, International Olympic committee. There will be a protest and i know another female Irish boxer has pulled out but surely this cant stand. The women could be seriously injured.

Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-ting

Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif: Boxers cleared for Paris Olympics

Two athletes are cleared to compete at the women's boxing at the Paris Olympics, having been disqualified from last year's World Championships for failing to meet eligibility criteria.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/articles/c4ngr93d9pgo

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Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 15:12

WickedSerious · 01/08/2024 15:10

What sort of 'women and girls'?

I hope she is referring to the only kind of women & girls those who are biologically born females
@JusteanBiscuits seems to have an aversion to using the word "female"

TheKeatingFive · 01/08/2024 15:12

NonPlayerCharacter · 01/08/2024 15:12

Meaning, the ones with penises.

newspeakdoubleplusungood

💯

hollyblueivy · 01/08/2024 15:12

A man? Like born with a penis and went through puberty? How can a man fight against a woman?

That is not right?!

Naunet · 01/08/2024 15:13

Tandora · 01/08/2024 15:11

ALL women and girls

Tundora, I’ve asked you this many times, are you scared of answering? What do you think about the transman being in the womens boxing?

Needanewname42 · 01/08/2024 15:14

TheKeatingFive · 01/08/2024 14:58

A simple saliva swab test is sufficient. The IOC should bring that back.

I can't believe they ever dropped it. How stupid.
And anyone who fails it should be stripped of all records and medals

Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 15:14

@JusteanBiscuits

"What is a woman"??
Can I answer for you?
A woman is a biological female ✔️

TheKeatingFive · 01/08/2024 15:14

hollyblueivy · 01/08/2024 15:12

A man? Like born with a penis and went through puberty? How can a man fight against a woman?

That is not right?!

Welcome to 2024 where you are a far right, transphobic bigot for saying this. What a time to be alive, hmm 😵‍💫

Saltedbutter · 01/08/2024 15:14

Apologies, I clicked YABU by accident. Anyone with at least half a brain cell who isn’t a complete and utter wrong’en knows YANBU.

Seriously, absolutely fuck anybody who has gaslighted themself into feeding into this anti-women agenda enough to think this is ok. Fuck them all.

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 15:15

Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 15:12

I hope she is referring to the only kind of women & girls those who are biologically born females
@JusteanBiscuits seems to have an aversion to using the word "female"

I'm not even in that quoted part so where do I come into this?!?! 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 15:15

Naunet · 01/08/2024 15:13

Tundora, I’ve asked you this many times, are you scared of answering? What do you think about the transman being in the womens boxing?

I think what @Tandora is trying to say is female but she can't quite find the word.
Tandora darling ALL women & girls would collectively be known as females.

Fetlocksblowininthewind · 01/08/2024 15:16

Saltedbutter · 01/08/2024 15:14

Apologies, I clicked YABU by accident. Anyone with at least half a brain cell who isn’t a complete and utter wrong’en knows YANBU.

Seriously, absolutely fuck anybody who has gaslighted themself into feeding into this anti-women agenda enough to think this is ok. Fuck them all.

FWIW you can change your vote

Saltedbutter · 01/08/2024 15:17

Fetlocksblowininthewind · 01/08/2024 15:16

FWIW you can change your vote

Ooooo how how how!?

Treo · 01/08/2024 15:18

Saltedbutter · 01/08/2024 15:17

Ooooo how how how!?

Just click the other option and it changes it

Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 15:18

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 15:15

I'm not even in that quoted part so where do I come into this?!?! 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Apologies @JusteanBiscuits 💐I meant to quote @Tandora she seems to have trouble finding the collective name for women & girls...
It would be female. All women & girls are collectively know as female.

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 15:18

Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 15:10

Fair for women??? @JusteanBiscuits I presume for the sake of clarity you mean females or are you being deliberately obtuse??

Fair for women. For girls. For females. Fair for those who haven't undergone male puberty. Fair for those assigned female at birth. Pick which ever of those you want. I'm sure which ever one I used originally you would have found fault.

Or are you being all antsy because someone has done more than sit in their chair posting on the internet??

ConstitutionHill · 01/08/2024 15:18

"I am here for gold. I will fight anybody. I will fight them all" - Khelif. Yeah, but you won't fight any other men though.

EsmaCannonball · 01/08/2024 15:19

Given that some of the 'aren't women just mean girls over this' and 'the debate is too toxic' people are on here, I think we need a reminder that a man calling himself Lauren Jerska tried to murder a UK sporting official over the issue of men in women's sports.

Tandora · 01/08/2024 15:20

NonPlayerCharacter · 01/08/2024 15:12

Meaning, the ones with penises.

newspeakdoubleplusungood

A) If you think all women have penises you are seriously deranged.

B) I rarely ask people about their genitalia in the course of my work-
it would be deeply intrusive and completely unnecessary. Of the two of us , you are the one who seeks to fixate on other people’s genitalia, and choses to discriminate against people simply for having a body that doesn’t conform to your particular ideas about how people should be/ look,

In any case personally attacking me might bring you some kind of psychological satisfaction , but it won’t really advance your cause, so it’s really neither here nor there.

BMW6 · 01/08/2024 15:21

teacher45646 · 01/08/2024 12:33

Do you believe someone born with a womb can be biologically male?

The presence or absence if a womb, testes, penis, vagina isn't what determines sex ultimately.

Women who have a hysterectomy do not stop being female.

A woman born without a womb is still female.
A man born without a penis is still male.

The CHROMOSOMES determine sex.

People born with DSD can have all kinds of genital differences from the "norm". They can certainly appear to be female at birth. He could have a rudimentary womb AND penis (but not much bigger than a clitoris).

But if a human has a Y chromosome that person is MALE. Whatever the state of their reproductive organs.

If a man has a complete surgery to appear female he is still a man. Nothing can change that. Nothing.

Maireanto1 · 01/08/2024 15:21

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 15:18

Fair for women. For girls. For females. Fair for those who haven't undergone male puberty. Fair for those assigned female at birth. Pick which ever of those you want. I'm sure which ever one I used originally you would have found fault.

Or are you being all antsy because someone has done more than sit in their chair posting on the internet??

Nope not at all, not a bit antsy. Collectively women & girls are female. That is their sex.
What exactly have you done to ensure fairness for all females young & old ? Because on here you appear to be extremely clueless & ill informed?

Naunet · 01/08/2024 15:22

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 15:18

Fair for women. For girls. For females. Fair for those who haven't undergone male puberty. Fair for those assigned female at birth. Pick which ever of those you want. I'm sure which ever one I used originally you would have found fault.

Or are you being all antsy because someone has done more than sit in their chair posting on the internet??

No one is assigned female at birth dear, how do you think people get the sex of the baby confirmed via a scan before birth?

OvaHere · 01/08/2024 15:22

Tandora · 01/08/2024 15:06

Pull the other one. 🙄
I am a vehement feminist, have been from the moment I could talk, and have a career in research, prevention , advocacy related to violence against women and girl.s.
So, no, you don’t “see” me at all, and please drop that creepy, threatening psychological bullying “I see you” crap.

Yet here you are running defence for a man who should never have been in that ring breaking a woman's nose in under a minute and destroying the Olympic dreams she will have worked many years towards.

We've had many spats across many threads on MN Tandora and you never express any empathy for women and girls.

NotBadConsidering · 01/08/2024 15:23
tumbleweed GIF

I’m still waiting for the scolders scolding us for criticising these men being in the women’s category while trans to post proof they’re trans.

And I’m still waiting for the scolders scolding us for criticising these men for being in the women’s category while having a DSD to post proof they’re DSD.

And I’m still waiting for the one scolder scolding us for criticising these men for being in the women’s category while having a DSD or being trans to post proof they’re DSD or trans.

Which is it? Who will prevail in the Scolding Olympics?

WickedSerious · 01/08/2024 15:23

ConstitutionHill · 01/08/2024 15:18

"I am here for gold. I will fight anybody. I will fight them all" - Khelif. Yeah, but you won't fight any other men though.

Now that's something I would watch.

Needanewname42 · 01/08/2024 15:23

JusteanBiscuits · 01/08/2024 15:06

You can get involved with the governing bodies in this country. You can stand to be on their committees. You can create a movement to create fair rules. You can attend meetings with facts and data and present it. You can encourage other women to join you in it.

This is what I did. And why the governing body of the sport I am part of now has very clear rules to keep it fair for women.

Are you missing the IBA has already banned these two as not qualifying as women?

The IOC has run this competition ignoring the IBA?

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