I actually can’t stand chronically late people

[Cadela]

Time blindness is not a thing. I have adhd and uncontrolled epilepsy, I know how hard it is, but constantly being late is the most disrespectful thing I think people can do.

Having to tell someone something starts half an hour later so they may show up on time is ridiculous.

It actually isn’t hard. If you have an appointment or an event, PLAN. If you can’t make it on time, get up earlier.

Yes I’m snotty because I have a friend who has no disabilities and every single time we plan something has never made it at the right time. Drives me fucking potty.

That's a very one-eyed view on how to run a company. If someone has time blindness issues you wouldn't ever put them in a position whereby they need to be available for a specific time slot. That's just daft and makes no sense. They would have a role where they could function in accordance with their abilities. Much like any other job actually...

I believe we can't say it's not a thing unless we experience it, just like a lot of women's issues are still not considered a thing by the medical fraternity.

I DO think some people genuinely have it. I also believe it's watered down by the people who are just disorganised & disrespectful. I had a friend who claimed it. She would consistently be late, messaging to apologise (so she knew) & often leaving me sitting for an hour or more, with young DC, or arriving early (I turned up 30 min early for a lunch date & she was there, eating already). Yet, she could co-ordinate & make complex flight connections, massage appointments, fun things SHE wanted to do, as well as I can, and I'm super organised.

So yes, most people don't have it, but I'm sure some do. It's picking out which people deserve our understanding & accommodation & which are just disorganised/taking the piss.

@Barleysugar86 - I’m sure if the OP’s friends had mentioned that the issue is time blindness then she would be more understanding and make allowances. However it doesn’t seem like this is the case.

You appear to have completely misread my post

That's not the way reasonable adjustments work and I'm sure if you looked past the end of your nose you could see that. Of course it works in various ways and it depends on the circumstances. It's not just about saying oh don't worry about being late, it's about reasonable expectations, how you manage day to day roles and how you approach the role the colleague is doing to support them in being successful.

Time blindness is real. You just don't suffer from it.

Try not to be so ignorant in future.

@MermaidMummy06 - yes, totally agree.

My sister is chronically late. She's not "time blind", not neuro diverse, just always underestimates how long it will take to get somewhere. And she leaves it to the last minute before getting herself ready to leave. And she gets awful shirty when people try to hurry her up or point out that she was late. She drives me up the wall with it but I love her dearly so I have to tolerate it.

100% a lot of deliberate ignorance on this thread.

And again:

I work for an entertainment company where customers pay a lot of money for specific time slots.

'Sorry, your host isn't here as they have adjustments for being time blind. You can start when they decide to start work'

Would that be ok with you, as a customer?

I have multiple staff with disabilities that we easily and readily adjust for. Temperature controls and specialised seating for staff with POTS, picture representations of routines for an autistic staff member, a special desk set up and more regular breaks for a staff member with mobility issues. Time blindness is not one we are able to adjust for due to the nature of the business.

And what about their colleagues? Yes Jane, Betty's meant to be relieving you at 1230 for your break, but she's not good with time, so you'll need to see when she comes back...

But someone with this issue wouldn't choose that kind of work.

I work in legal for a company with flexible working (for all employees) and home working as much as you want. It means I have no fixed time to be in the office as long as I get my work done. I will often put in extra time on the evenings when I feel my most focused. When I do decide to go into the office I aim to be in for 9.30 but it's often after 10 once I get in, but it's fine, no one minds. If I schedule meetings I try to do it for the afternoon. I'm good at what I do. The flexibility was what drew me to the job and why I will stay a very long time, even when other companies contact me with offers of higher salaries. I'm sure lots of us self select for workplaces that suit who we are. Covid really helped with this!

I used to be late for everything. You would have absolutely hated me. I genuinely wasn't trying to be annoying, I was just shit at not underestimating how long it would take me to do the various stages (make up, finding stuff I needed to take, driving (I NEVER allowed for traffic), parking (I NEVER considered I might not get a convenient, nearby space)) of getting somewhere on time.

I've since realised how annoying people find this, and how disrespectful it is and I have made good progress. I'm not perfect at it, I suspect I never will be (only the other day I drove to a busy seaside town on a really sunny day to meet a group of friends and didn't even think about the fact that parking was obviously going to be really difficult... I mean, I'm genuinely an intelligent and fairly capable person, ffs!) but I really am trying.

Time blindness is not one we are able to adjust for due to the nature of the business

Fair enough if true. Your thing might be as unsuitable for me as a driving job would be for somebody with impaired vision. Doesn't mean I'm pretending my brain fails to compute time.

Noone wants to answer if they would be happy, as a customer, to accept staff being late.

The 'and again' was unnecessarily rude wasn't it? I was polite.

You can add in all of the caveats in terms of the other staff you employ, but it doesn't change the fundamental premise. If you make those adjustments 'easily and readily' then you can do the same for time blindness... also you're focused on one part of the business - you must have accounts people for example, where time blindness could be accommodated? Your business cannot possibly have every single role with a definitive time slot.

As someone else said... look beyond the end of your nose. And yes I am being rude saying that, but you were rude too, so phhhhhh really.

With you there, OP.

As someone once said 'people who are continually late value their own time more than yours'.

It's as simple as that. They very rarely miss flights, do they?

Not employing someone due solely to them claiming to be time blind would also be potentially discriminatory. So yes, they could choose to apply for a job with us and not disclose the issue until it suits them.

Right?! Why are people not getting this?! Sorry for all the interrobangs!

That explains why King Charles was annoyed when his Carriage arrived late at the Abbey for his coronation 😁

Because it's a non sequitur. And whataboutery. Not a real question - real questions invite a range of answers, you just want people to agree with you.

Why would someone deliberately apply for a job that they'd be shit at and which they'd find intensely stressful?

As I've got older, I've learned to just stop caring about what people like you think. You hate chronically late people, and I hate people who try to make me feel shit about a perceived character flaw and moralise something I really struggle with that impacts my life every day. To the extent that they can't value any of the other things that are good about me. Now I just stop socialising with people who do that. So it's a win-win. We each don't have to tolerate each other 🤷

Sure if you don't have a disability that causes you time blindness then it's not hard. Different story if you do. How about you agree to contemplate that not everyone experiences the world the way you do and others don't unnecessarily castigate you for your inability think beyond your own perception?

@Goldbar - I was just thinking the same. If you know you have an issue with timing, don’t apply for a job for which timing is important.