Daily mail article, integration has failed in Germany. Aibu to agree with article?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13687565/Children-radicalised-mosques-11-knives-crime-verdict-German-child-refugee-charity-integration-failed-asylum-seekers.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=

Aibu to agree to an extent?

I think integration is important, if they live in their own areas, send their children to their own schools, don't mix with people outside of their group, then that must create a mindset that puts them at odds with most people in the UK.

I am of course, talking about the very rich.

Well it has failed. It's been a disaster.

Do you think multiculturalism is the only factor in making these things happen?

As I keep saying Google is your friend. This was huge news, if you don't know who or what caused the rights then I suggest educating yourself!

I referred these as I'm am stating that I condemn riots full stop. Both Southport & Leeds, these happened mere weeks apart.

What has failed and what has been the disaster?

This 💯

@Sparklingnorthernlights do you think all of those criteria are to do with multiculturalism and not, say, 14 years of Tory mismanagement and utter shitehawkery?

Can you point me to where I said drug use?

And it's all down to integration? Or multiculturalism as you put it

Ireland in the 80s was in recession, huge unemployment, huge heroin problem, high crime rates, massive emigration no immigration whatsoever. Guess what immigration is not the reason for all the issues you've listed

Way back at the beginning of your thread you didn't say it but you agreed with the poster that did

It's this kind of disingenuous bigotry which is destroying any trust that moderate people previously had in the left. I'm a lifelong left winger, but I'm now totally alienated by the way people like you treat me. It's shocking to me that you think it's normal to equate my concerns with a desire to throw bricks at mosques. What do you hope to achieve? You say that 'great many' on the left are prepared to enter these discussions, but that's absolutely not been my experience in recent years. I had to leave the Labour party due to verbal & physical intimidation. When you constantly jump to hyperbolic conclusions and deploy unwarranted insults against anyone with legitimate concerns, it's actually you who comes across as the small-minded bigot. Please point me to where & how the left is tackling the behaviour of Islamist fundamentalists and their enablers (who include the police, councillors, MPs and other public servants and sections of the MSM). What's happening is utterly insidious, I really hope you can overcome your prejudice and actually start investigating this properly.

From what I hear Ireland is no better now. Mass discontent with government & huge riots last year in the capital after multiple children were stabbed.

Well done Ivy

This poster is exactly right. The hypocrisy of the enabling left makes me sick. They scream racist to shut any discussion down, and the wheel keeps turning. The discussion is not being had. The elephant in the room is not addressed and then we turn on the news to hear another massacre has occurred.

Jesus wept. How many more children and people have to die at the expense of your hypocrisy before you wake up and say ENOUGH.

Island borders are not man made, though I agree about land borders. However, peoples rights are linked to the past. Our parents and grandparents who worked until retirement age to help fund the fabric of society (schools, healthcare, etc) paid into that system. When people only want to take out, it leads to a broken society. Tribalism is a whole different matter, but a lot of us feel safer and happier being among people whose ways and thought processes are not dissimilar to our own

Indeed, Scotland right now has a declining population and not enough immigration. It has massive problems with child poverty, deep divisions in society, a decline in education standards and the worst drug deaths in Europe. 'Welcome our to our Utopia'

Integration. Are you on the correct thread? It's in the OP's title and post. It's the topic of discussion on this thread.

This post was agreeing to the post about drug use than you added homelessness

Exactly I didn't say say it. This is the second time on this thread I've been incorrectly misquoted. Typical left tactic, really enjoy calling you lot out!

People's rights are linked to the past, correct.

People living in countries that Britain colonised (raped and pillaged for years) are far less able to access their human rights because of the past and curent actions of this 'great nation state'.

I think integration is key in any country. Learn the lingo, follow their laws, rules and customs.
I don’t think that’s much to ask for but it seems like it is for some.

In Germany? Righto.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/why-ireland-boiling-point-mass-immigration

Ireland sounds like a real beacon of hope @Dulra. The riots after the poor little children in Dublin were stabbed were horrific & the footage went global

Oh OK. You're talking about integration in Germany specifically. It wasn't 100% clear from your post as the thread has obviously moved on quite a lot.

The thread has been a wider debate than just integration in Germany
Edit to say wrong quote!

Yes think this kind of vote v comment situation on mn won’t make it go away.

Fine people might just click yanbu and not post due to backlash but that doesn’t stop the issue growing