To not want to see t*ts on the beach??!

[TittiesOutPutThemBack]

Just that really!

on holiday at the mo and I cant even count the number of times I have seen topless women sunbathing at the beach… next to kids!…on non-nudist beach!

I really don’t want to see titties out in the middle of the day

on top of that I don’t fancy my teenage boys or even my DH having a look at them either

its obvious they’re coming from certain European countries ! Do they have no sense of what’s right or wrong ?

AIBU?

The question has been answered several times!

Men openly being disgusting is a separate issue to topless sunbathing. Topless sunbathing isn't sexual. A teenager defying her mother and potentially causing disruption on a family holiday isn't topless sunbathing.

I understand - all I was asking is if you are worried/protective when men ogle your teenage daughter on the high street why are you not also worried/protective on the beach.
I mean if I was worried on the high street I would be encouraging her to keep her bikini top on for her own protection that's all.

If you are fine with your daughter going topless on the beach and knowing that men will be having a wee ogle from behind their glasses are you also okay with them ogling them on the high street?

I am fine with human beings thinking whatever they want as long as they act appropriately. We cannot censor thoughts. Horrible men's behaviour is a problem. Women's clothing choices are not.

That's been said several times.

but what about all the posters who were worried about their teen daughters getting ogled by men on the high street? Why are they not worried about their teen daughters getting ogled more on the beach.

Are you saying the men who ogle the teens on the high street will be perfect gents on the beach.

I mean it's like saying I hate it when people touch my dog in the park but if we are abroad at the beach where everybody touches dogs, then I don't mind it. I mean I might have to go along with it to fit in with the normal customs but presumably if I am a person who does not like my dog being touched I won't change my mind in a different location.

How would that protect her?

As if she would be in any way responsible for leering men.

No, I am not fine at men ogling my daughter whether on a beach or anywhere else.
My daughter was harassed on a train when she was wearing a school uniform and looking like a child. She was travelling to school by herself and some man decided it was ok to stare at her and take a photo of her. I was very much not ok with that and had I been there, he would have been picking up his genitals off the floor. Does that mean I should dress my daughter in a potato sack when she goes out?
Covering up does not stop the perverts as women/girls in Muslim countries are still raped and abused even though they cover up.
Sunglasses are not limited to the beach so plenty of men ogle discreetly on the high street and everywhere else.
And this is not ok. The men’s behaviour is not ok, not what women/girls decide to wear/not to wear.
With regards to being topless on the beach it is a personal choice of the women and the parents with regards to their teenage daughters.
Some people don’t want their teenage daughters to be topless but don’t mind when grown up women go topless.
My daughter has not sunbathed naked as we have never spent holidays in a country which allows ( we spend most holidays in my home country), but I don’t think she would be interested if she had the opportunity.
If a parent lets their daughter go topless in public, I am pretty sure they are not ok with her ogled, just like they wouldn’t be ok if it happened on the high street.

Okay I'm not going to say anymore. I just found it strange that mothers were upset with middle aged men looking at their teen daughters out and about but were okay with them looking at them on the beach with less clothes on.

Topless sunbathing might not be sexualised to you or women but worrying about the high street and not the beach does not make sense so we shall just have to agree to disagree.

If you don't like it, you can always fuck off home and let the rest of us be.
Simples!

FFS OP - are you still going on about the tits on the beach!! 😂

what about all the posters who were worried about their teen daughters getting ogled by men on the high street? Why are they not worried about their teen daughters getting ogled more on the beach.

I suppose you'd have to ask them. But you are conflating two issues. The one you're asking is "are you worried about ogling?" The other is "is topless sunbathing ok"?

As topless sunbathing is an accepted cultural norm in many places, it's not considered sexual in much the same way that men don't tend to get erect in nudist areas. Nudity isn't really sexy in the way clothing can be. It's just a body, not a body presented as tantalising. Some people might get turned on, that's their problem.

I just found it strange that mothers were upset with middle aged men looking at their teen daughters out and about but were okay with them looking at them on the beach with less clothes on.

Hopefully, after several answers from several people, you now understand the non-sexual nature of sunbathing, the concept of context and the difference between thinking thoughts and doing acts.

thank you for trying to give me an answer. I appreciate it

Pointless question, I know, but why aren't people RTFT?
OP @TittiesOutPutThemBack has been rumbled and won't be back.
Well, maybe under a different user name when he/she/they need more click-bait for their rag.

if its legal for women to be topless where you are then the problem is you

go home

How would it not protect her? She’d be more likely
to be ogled topless than not. That’s like asking how sunscreen would protect you from the sun as if you would be responsible for getting burnt. Be for real. In an ideal world, we could all be naked whenever we wanted, wherever we wanted if that is how we felt most comfortable. However, there will ALWAYS be perverts and predators walking this earth no matter what you do or say. This is why the whole ‘educate boys from a young age’ bullshit mindset I keep seeing is getting tiresome.

I'm confused. I never asked 'is topless sunbathing ok'

Are you getting me mixed up with the original poster?

My question arose because I read an interesting thread the other day where mothers were concerned about middle aged men looking at their teen daughters on the high street fully clothed. Obviously walking on the high street is not a sexualised activity and neither is sunbathing.

The only question I asked was would those worrying mums on the high street not try to stop their daughters being topless on the beach to protect themselves from mens (behind sunglasses) stares.

I am for real. As I mentioned up thread a heavy jumper and thick long skirt made no difference in my case. What women wear isn’t the problem. Men who behave like that will behave like that anyway. Not long ago the thread was talking about men ogling on the high street. What do you think women should wear there to protect themselves?

thank you

no I'm still quite stupid. God job you are here to explain it all.

It is actually very simple and I don't know why you can't understand it.

Parents don't want their teenage daughters to be ogled anywhere. Not when they're fully clothed on the high street, not when they're in a bikini at their local pool, not when they're topless on the beach.

That does not mean those same parents think the solution is for their daughters to change their behaviour. If that was the solution, parents would be insisting on their daughters dressing from head to toe in shapeless sheets so that their bodies couldn't be discerned at all.

You can support your daughter's freedom to wear whatever she likes and do what she likes with her own body and at the same time be critical of and disgusted by men who behave like perverts. There is no contradiction here. If you spent your life trying to protect your daughters from perverts by banning them from any activity which might result in her encountering a pervert, you would ruin her life by limiting it severely without actually solving the problem.

Let it be noted, every single time I was sexually harassed as a teenager, I was fully clothed. It happened to me when I was wearing my school uniform, when I was in black trousers and shirt while waitressing, and while I was in running gear. My parents were horrified and distressed by these incidents but they didn't try and resolve them by banning me from wearing the clothes or participating in the activities I had been in while it happened.

I also think it's important to say that normalising nudity in a non-sexual context is one of the ways we can challenge this perception that there's something inherently titillating or sexual about being topless in public. The more normal it is to see all different kinds of bodies just existing in public without any sexual context, the more we can challenge this pornified view that breasts exist for the arousal of men and need to be hidden away or it's fair game to ogle.

I don't do it personally as worry about sun damage (I am so fair) and would feel a bit uncomfortable but I really don't care if other people want to do it. What is the issue if kids see it? They're just boobs, they know what they are.

But why wouldn't you? Regardless of your age.

Many people are making the point that they're just breasts and we need to educate boys about them. If this is the case then everyone should bare their breasts.

Breasts belong to half the population. We shouldn't cover them up just because they don't conform to the other half's idea of beauty.

@KevinCostnersMyBodyguard NO-ONE said they would be happy for their 12-14 year old daughter to be topless on the beach. That isn't what this thread is about and you know it. You are pushing your own agenda here and trying to pursue a 'gotcha!' on some posters. It's not working. Your posts are ridiculous because no-one mentioned 12-14 year old girls going topless.

And that is the end

Of the thread!