Junior doctors offered 22% pay rise

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How and where will the government get the money from I wonder?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjqe82lk5g5o

Good, I’m glad they’ve got this sorted.

Spending is often a matter of priorities - cut some infrastructure projects to pay doctors properly seems fair enough to me.

It's brilliant for them but I imagine it will leave a sour taste for many other public sector workers who will be getting very little but have also massively missed out due to pay freezes and inflation.

They've agreed the 5.5% for us too.
We had 5% last year and lump sum so I think we've done alright.
I'm happy with that pay rise and pleased for the doctors

They need to change the pay structure in the NHS. Porters, admin, caterers etc should not be on the same pay scale as nurses and health care assistants.

There was a reporter on Politics Live today saying this wasn’t the case.

They are currently being underpaid and the private sector has had big pay rises. They are just keeping U.K. and because of this it won’t affect inflation.

I run a farm shop type place and people working a 40+ hour week make close to that. We work hard and it’s a more complex business than you might think, but you don’t need 7 years training and nobody dies if you fuck up. It’s INSANE that doctors have been on that wage.

Well they need to join a union and get moving then.

Although I imagine other rises will be announced soon.

Absolutely. Pharmacists now prescribe a fair majority of chemotherapy for cancer patients and do not get the same kind of money that doctors do yet share a huge proportion of the responsibility. This is just one example of the workload that has migrated from the doctor's to the pharmacists. It is the same for nurses as well.

Great news, it's a good step towards pay restoration. And it proves we finally have a Government capable of achieving something useful for the Country!

I completely agree IF government is going to pay fees for med students to train..a payback. However whilst students are taking out £45k tuition fee loans and a further £45k in maintainence loans, I doing think the government can ask that of them. If I was getting £90k in debt to train in a speciality, I would follow the money, as I’m sure most would.

Does the 5.5% apply to all the NHS staff on agenda of change contracts?

It will leave a bad taste in the mouth of private sector workers who earn far less than doctors and could never dream of a 22% pay rise.

Didimum yes this will apply to all agenda for change staff and be back dated to April

What a weird thing to say – other than minimum wage, the government have no say or control in private sector salaries.

Pharmacist cannot prescribe chemotherapy only doctors can. In fact only specialist oncology pharmacists are allowed to dispense a doctor's prescription for chemotherapy.

Nothing I imagine given that an agreement was reached already with Consultants.

I don't think that report does disprove the idea that we can pay doctors more to improve the number of doctors we have? And it doesn't suggest anything about working part time really (although it does mention work life balance, which might be a proxy).

If you click through the report and look at table 5.1, 49% of all doctors surveyed (and 3/4 of the most discontented doctors) want to leave the UK so they can get a pay rise.

Good they deserve to be paid well

Junior doctors deserve better pay, so I’m glad to hear it’s starting to happen.
I’m afraid I don’t buy the line that pay needs to be improved further up the (senior practitioner) scale.
I’ve just seen two consultants at £350 per appointment (after refusing to pay £450 for another). They specialise as they become more senior.
I went to uni with many medics and they’re now all on great wages, great pensions and many are now only part time.

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I really can’t think of any employee public or private more important than a doctor. Private wages have increased whilst public have fallen behind.

What a nasty bitter comment. I mean they could alway move sectors if they want to. But the public sector has been screwed for 14 years. This is just catching up.

@SauviGone glad you think so highly of us admin staff in the NHS

Ffs people are so thick

They haven't had a 22% pay RISE - they've had pay cuts in real terms for years

Well, why not go and be a doctor then? Of course you'll need to sacrifice 5+ years of your life to study one of the hardest and most competitive courses out there, provided you already have excellent academic qualifications and an impressive extracurricular resume in order to get onto the course to begin with. Or maybe you think that everyone should just get paid the same just for showing up?

Are you talking about nhs workers?

Superworm24 yes nhs staff on agenda for change, and other sectors like teachers I believe.