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Violated by MIL

260 replies

Workaholic99 · 27/07/2024 22:04

My MIL kissed the back of my neck.

Today i was hosting a birthday party for DD2 and had invited MIL because it's the right thing to do (not because I wanted her there).

When MIL arrived she completely ignored me - for the whole party barely more the 5 words were exchanged between us! (great, no complaints from me) however, as she was leaving I had my DD on my lap and so couldn't easily get up to say good bye, so she comes from my behind and plants a slobbery kiss on the back of my neck. There was nothing to stop her coming around to my front to say bye.

I was never felt more cringed or violated in my life. It doesn't help that I really detest the woman. My DH said he saw the whole exchange and thought it was very weird.

How should I handle that in future? I never want to be in that situation again

OP posts:
Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 20:00

TwigletsAndRadishes · 28/07/2024 19:18

I made the very first post on this thread, in response to the OP. I've just come back to find that I have 59, yes that's 59!!!! likes/thanks for that comment. That has to be some sort of record, surely?

You must feel so proud knowing me inside out and better than I know myself 👏

OP posts:
Yourdemonsyourproblem · 28/07/2024 20:03

Gross and weird

PixieLaLar · 28/07/2024 20:17

She sounds unhinged!

Why didn’t DH say something to her?

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 20:26

PixieLaLar · 28/07/2024 20:17

She sounds unhinged!

Why didn’t DH say something to her?

My DH will willingly cut his family off to protect me and our DD but confront his mother face to face... he doesn't have that confidence to take her on.

OP posts:
Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 20:31

Opalline · 28/07/2024 01:28

Is there a particular reason you feel in a better position than the OP to decide how they should have felt in that situation? What the fuck do you know about the OP, other than what is written here?

Violating someone is about trangressing their boundaries and issues of consent. It includes unwanted touching, kissing, etc.

Women telling other women to pipe down when they feel vulnerable, violated or whatever is just awful, notably the first several posters on this thread, all trying to minimise the OP's experience. Imagine saying those thing to your own daughter.

Ugh.

I am just as entitled to my opinion as you are. I would say the same to my own daughters too. I would have felt repulsed/disgusted/sick if my MIL had ever done that but violated is too strong a word for what happened. I don't care what you say. And I never told her to "pipe down". That's a figment of your own imagination. She absolutely should speak up and tell her MIL in no uncertain terms how gross she felt it to be, but please do not minimise violation!!

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 20:35

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 03:31

The OP didn’t ask for opinions on how she reacted, or how she felt, or how she should feel.

Her actual question was: How should I handle that in future? I never want to be in that situation again?

Imagine reading a post from a woman, sharing an experience where they felt uncomfortable and violated, and other women totally shut her down and undermine her. “Oh OP you’re so OTT. Poor MIL”.

Feeling violated, no matter if you received an unsolicited cat-call or peck on the neck, or if you’ve experienced extreme physical or sexual violence, should never be met with condescending and undermining comments.

Some of the comments on this thread just shows how truly fucked up society is. Sickening.

@Workaholic99 please NEVER ever, let anyone undermine your experiences or tell you how you should feel.

Edited

Literally nobody said "poor MIL". Stop projecting!

Jollylollylee · 28/07/2024 20:38

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 20:26

My DH will willingly cut his family off to protect me and our DD but confront his mother face to face... he doesn't have that confidence to take her on.

That’s a problem. He doesn’t necessarily have to cut her off but he should be saying something or backing you when you speak up. What is he saying about it to you privately?

SwordToFlamethrower · 28/07/2024 20:42

You what...? You are using the word "violated" and it doesn't mean what you think not means.

Which is kind of offensive to those of us who have actually been violated.

Please do grow the hell up.

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 20:45

Jollylollylee · 28/07/2024 20:38

That’s a problem. He doesn’t necessarily have to cut her off but he should be saying something or backing you when you speak up. What is he saying about it to you privately?

Other than the initial incident where he said it was weird, I haven't raised with him as I don't want it to look like I'm always complaining about his mother.

He did say later today though that he needs to travel home back to visit his ill grandfather and as its the same town as his mother lives in he said I and DD should stay home.

OP posts:
Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 20:47

SwordToFlamethrower · 28/07/2024 20:42

You what...? You are using the word "violated" and it doesn't mean what you think not means.

Which is kind of offensive to those of us who have actually been violated.

Please do grow the hell up.

You say I don't know what Violated means. I do and there is more than one definition. Please don't diminish my experiences when you don't know me. You only know what I've chosen to say.

Violated by MIL
OP posts:
Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 20:48

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 03:42

Ah I see it.

You think it’s totally acceptable for people to undermine the OP and call her OTT. That her own feelings and experiences are invalid?

She should just be a good woman shouldn’t she? Just sit back, put up and shut up, take the “opinions” on the chin?

But any comments that challenge these unkind and unhelpful comments are trying to “silence” and shouldn’t be shared?

Yeah, I’m glad to end our discussion here too. Goodnight.

That's utter rubbish. It was the hyperbole in the OP that attracted the responses it got. I think we can all agree that the MIL's action was repulsive, gross, unacceptable, unnerving, whatever, and the post would have garnered a very different response had it been couched differently.

Literally no-one is trying to silence her and the majority of posters are sympathetic to her discomfiture, but let's call a spade a spade!

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 20:55

Trinity65 · 28/07/2024 08:02

Oh do Get a Life!!
Pathetic

That's an overreaction. The OP was perfectly entitled to feel grossed out and repulsed!

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 20:57

Respectisnotoptional · 28/07/2024 08:10

Here we go again total overreaction to a mother in law, what a ridiculous post ‘violated’ what is the matter with the women on here!
Every single thing has to be analysed and complained about, stop whinging!

I don't think the OP is "whinging" actually! Would you accept this from your MIL?!

PixieLaLar · 28/07/2024 21:05

SwordToFlamethrower · 28/07/2024 20:42

You what...? You are using the word "violated" and it doesn't mean what you think not means.

Which is kind of offensive to those of us who have actually been violated.

Please do grow the hell up.

How rude. I would feel violated if someone I didn’t even like came up behind me and kissed me on the neck too!

Ivymom · 28/07/2024 21:06

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 20:26

My DH will willingly cut his family off to protect me and our DD but confront his mother face to face... he doesn't have that confidence to take her on.

Then you and DD shouldn’t see MIL until your DH is able to confront her. I don’t mean only about this. He needs to be able to protect you both in the moment. The future relationship is on him. He can read books, listen to podcasts, get therapy, etc… to learn how to stand up for you to MIL if he wants you and any children to have a relationship with her. If he chooses not to do that, he visits alone. If the situation arises again that you are in MIL’s company, he needs to accept that you will stand up for yourself and you won’t try to preserve the relationship while doing it.

OriginalUsername2 · 28/07/2024 21:29

OP never said she felt sexually violated. She said she felt violated.

Language matters. Stop gatekeeping.

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 21:37

@Workaholic99 I think your DH has to confront his mother and ask her what she was playing at. She needs to understand that her relationship with all of you and especially her granddaughter is at stake. There's no question it was a bizarre thing to do, especially as you don't have a good relationship.

If she persistently crosses boundaries, then there is no way to deal with it other than go LC. It sounds as if you would prefer that anyway, and that is fine.

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 21:55

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 20:35

Literally nobody said "poor MIL". Stop projecting!

Lol. Yes they did. Try reading the thread again before you quote me.

“combinationpadlock · Yesterday 22:37
O good grief, poor MIL, just gave her DIL a kiss on the way out! A non-lip kiss between two women is a completely normal non event, even if you don't like it.”

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 22:00

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 20:48

That's utter rubbish. It was the hyperbole in the OP that attracted the responses it got. I think we can all agree that the MIL's action was repulsive, gross, unacceptable, unnerving, whatever, and the post would have garnered a very different response had it been couched differently.

Literally no-one is trying to silence her and the majority of posters are sympathetic to her discomfiture, but let's call a spade a spade!

I didn’t say anyone was trying to silence the OP.

I was responding to a comment who was saying I was trying to silence another poster - by telling them they shouldn’t minimise the OP’s experience by calling her OTT. If she felt violated by her MIL she has every right to say she felt that way. Her feelings are 100% valid.

A lot of posters on here are not sympathetic or helpful. At all. You only need to read the first couple of replies.

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 22:03

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 22:00

I didn’t say anyone was trying to silence the OP.

I was responding to a comment who was saying I was trying to silence another poster - by telling them they shouldn’t minimise the OP’s experience by calling her OTT. If she felt violated by her MIL she has every right to say she felt that way. Her feelings are 100% valid.

A lot of posters on here are not sympathetic or helpful. At all. You only need to read the first couple of replies.

You did.

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 22:07

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 22:03

You did.

Please directly quote the post where I said that.

Workaholic99 · 28/07/2024 22:19

@HolyPeaches I appreciate your support - I never meant to create such a hostile page, when I originally posted I was still feeling quite repulsed. Thank you for defending me x

OP posts:
HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 23:00

@Workaholic99 You’re welcome😊& I hope
you’re okay. A lot of threads on AIBU turn hostile sadly, I think a lot of users just enjoy telling any thread starter that they’re OTT, dramatic, hormonal, etc etc. They get a kick out of being deliberately unhelpful and unkind to people who just want advice.

YellowDaffodilRedTulip · 28/07/2024 23:03

Cantrushart · 27/07/2024 22:27

It sounds as though she would have encountered too many prickles if she'd approached from the front. Same reason she avoided talking to you.

If you aren’t friendly enough to approach someone from the front, you certainly don’t kiss them from behind.

Runnerinthenight · 28/07/2024 23:05

HolyPeaches · 28/07/2024 22:07

Please directly quote the post where I said that.

Look it up for yourself.