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Violated by MIL

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Workaholic99 · 27/07/2024 22:04

My MIL kissed the back of my neck.

Today i was hosting a birthday party for DD2 and had invited MIL because it's the right thing to do (not because I wanted her there).

When MIL arrived she completely ignored me - for the whole party barely more the 5 words were exchanged between us! (great, no complaints from me) however, as she was leaving I had my DD on my lap and so couldn't easily get up to say good bye, so she comes from my behind and plants a slobbery kiss on the back of my neck. There was nothing to stop her coming around to my front to say bye.

I was never felt more cringed or violated in my life. It doesn't help that I really detest the woman. My DH said he saw the whole exchange and thought it was very weird.

How should I handle that in future? I never want to be in that situation again

OP posts:
InterIgnis · 30/07/2024 10:55

Rosscameasdoody · 30/07/2024 06:53

How about she just puts down her child for a minute and actually says goodbye properly to her MIL, instead of showing the woman her back as she was leaving. Then MIL wouldn’t have needed to do what she did.

She didn’t ‘need’ to do what she did. Not kissing her was an option.

Someone being rude isn’t generally considered to be an open initiation to kiss them.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 30/07/2024 11:07

InterIgnis · 30/07/2024 10:53

Plenty have been.

From side helping to second course. Yes, she felt violated so she used the word, and helpfully provided the definition for those who took issue. ‘Violated’ is not only used in context of sexual assault, and it’s usage to describe OP’s feelings in regards to unwanted physical contact isn’t something that anyone has the authority to withhold from her on the basis that they think she shouldn’t feel it.

What MIL is up against is someone that isn’t going to roll over and accept whatever she feels inclined to dish out. Good.

Have a look at the definitions she posted. Not one of them applies to what actually happened. And I don’t think posting those definitions was intended to be ‘helpful’,but that’s beside the point. I suppose we’ll all have our own opinions because we can’t know the actual situation. My own feeling is that it was less than wise, shall we say, to come on to MN and use a triggering word like ‘violated’ to create drama where there really is none. Reading through the OP’s posts, especially the latter ones, I get the strong impression that OP is determined to carry on this feud no matter what. Her own hostility towards her MIL will continue to blind her to any overtures the woman may make towards a resolution because the OP feels that everything is a slight.

Rosscameasdoody · 30/07/2024 11:10

InterIgnis · 30/07/2024 10:55

She didn’t ‘need’ to do what she did. Not kissing her was an option.

Someone being rude isn’t generally considered to be an open initiation to kiss them.

As has been said several times, she would have known MIL was leaving, and if MiL saw she had her hands full with DD on her lap and was making no effort to get up, it was probably no more than an impulse. And one that she probably deeply regrets given OP’s OTT reaction.

InterIgnis · 30/07/2024 11:23

Rosscameasdoody · 30/07/2024 11:10

As has been said several times, she would have known MIL was leaving, and if MiL saw she had her hands full with DD on her lap and was making no effort to get up, it was probably no more than an impulse. And one that she probably deeply regrets given OP’s OTT reaction.

‘Probably’ is doing a lot of heavy lifting when taking into account that this is someone you don’t even know, who historically has a very strained relationship with the OP.

InterIgnis · 30/07/2024 11:30

DotAndCarryOne2 · 30/07/2024 11:07

Have a look at the definitions she posted. Not one of them applies to what actually happened. And I don’t think posting those definitions was intended to be ‘helpful’,but that’s beside the point. I suppose we’ll all have our own opinions because we can’t know the actual situation. My own feeling is that it was less than wise, shall we say, to come on to MN and use a triggering word like ‘violated’ to create drama where there really is none. Reading through the OP’s posts, especially the latter ones, I get the strong impression that OP is determined to carry on this feud no matter what. Her own hostility towards her MIL will continue to blind her to any overtures the woman may make towards a resolution because the OP feels that everything is a slight.

Here’s another.

Apparently it is helpful to provide the definitions, given the amount of posters that seemingly haven’t encountered the word outside of one specific context.

If the MIL was in fact making overtures (clearly debatable), then she would be better served by instigating conversation with OP, rather do things that, considering the context, can be badly misinterpreted.

Violated by MIL
TrickyD · 30/07/2024 11:34

She is hardly a stranger is she?

You are being utterly ridiculous.

Tourmalines · 30/07/2024 11:38

Oh just fuck off .

InterIgnis · 30/07/2024 11:40

TrickyD · 30/07/2024 11:34

She is hardly a stranger is she?

You are being utterly ridiculous.

So? What does her not being a stranger have to do with it? She’s someone that OP doesn’t have a good relationship with, that she didn’t invite physical contact with.

AnnaL94 · 30/07/2024 11:44

Tourmalines · 30/07/2024 11:38

Oh just fuck off .

What a riveting, helpful input.

Cringing for you.

T1Dmama · 01/08/2024 04:44

I think you should have said something there and then… even just a ‘what was that?!!!!’or a blunt ‘eww, don’t do that!’

I think next time she’s over you need to just be prepared!

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