To have allowed my dc watch the Olympic opening ceremony?

[Creepingivy]

I was shocked at the library scene leading to a threesome.

The mocking of Christians in the last supper scene.

The feminization of males & the sheer number of transvestites on parade. And a child thrown in the midst of them.

This is a sporting event, why the need to have it so highly sexulaised? My dc were thankfully howling with laughter at parts "the smurf man" singing (complete with his painted bulge) had us all in stitches.

I feel there was a social conditioning agenda to the opening ceremony & it was completely inappropriate given that it is for family viewing. Sexulaised behaviour should not be displayed to children.

Do you not understand the distinction between wanting to do something and actually doing it?

Actually, never mind. Neither Lia Thomas or any other trans women are relevant to this Olympics where none of them are competing. I hope you get help with your obsession - it’s weird to bring up trans people at every opportunity.

Have the day you deserve.

Why did Thomas feel the need to sue then? Why not try out for the male team as he is a biological male?
I'm having a great day already thank you, enjoying reading articles re the olympics pushback with my morning coffee 😁 Woke is dead, the world is pushing back & will not accept it!
Can you not read? @TheKeatingFive has pointed out there are two men competing in the women's boxing & another man in the women's football. Not good enough. Hopefully the world will unite & demand a stop to this rubbish & all the wokeness these people are trying to normalise & infiltrate into our society. As the pushback has shown, it's not wanted.

Oh please, with this 'wHaT aBoUt InTeRsEx' bs. Intersex are still either male OR female. That they are intersex, is irrelevant. A blood test will show they are either male....OR female. It's as simple as that. They are not two sexes in one. Intersex people have REPEATEDLY asked that they be left out of this debate and that they stop being weaponised.
Their statements regarding the trans/drag issue:

Are they “pretending to be women”?

Yes, they are. That is what drag is all about!

No, they’re performing drag, which has various roots and origins as theatre all over the world. Some people have said “dressed resembling a girl” started in the theatre when women weren’t allowed on stage, and men played female parts as well.

You've, without knowing it, answered the problem. That women weren't allowed on stage, that IS WHY men dressed as women. And now, even in an age where women ARE allowed to perform, men are still aping us, as if we are not there and are not allowed to perform. Drag has roots pre-suffrage, when women had zero rights. So WHY does it still....exist today? It's like they are FLAUNTING that era in our faces, rubbing our faces in it, when surely men dressed as women should have died the moment we were allowed out of the house and on a stage.

That is what makes drag queen existing today, all the more like pouring salt, bleach, acid into the wounds of women. Once we got the right to leave the house and to perform on stage, drag should have disappeared and ceased to exist.

As to the rapist volleyball player that people on here desperately resort to as whataboutery, the topic of the thread is the OPENING....CEREMONY. Can you read and comprehend English? If you want to discuss that rapist (and the outcry against him is very justified) then create a thread on that. T.H.I.S. .....T.H.R.E.A.D is about the opening ceremony. Let me spell it out for you since many seem very mentally slow.
O.P.E.N.I.NG.....C.E.R.E.M.O.N.Y. Opening Ceremony. The rapist didn't (to my knowledge, I didn't see watch it) peform at the opening ceremony. Do you need the dictionary definitions of those words 'opening' and 'ceremony'? Please just go away with your strawmen and whataboutery to derail the thread. Start a new thread if you want to discuss the horrible rapist.

Saying things like “men” “women” and “biological women” is actually more confusing because intersex people exist.

No it isn't, because all people with DSDs are either male or female. HTH.

I thought the 200 odd figures of a headless Marie anyoinette was unnecessary and gross

Just a note that my comment abut the rapist volleyball player was addressed to everyone on this thread that keeps going on about it, not just to HolyGround13. And my comment "Let me spell it out for you since many seem very mentally slow." is address to all who keep going on about it, it is not personally addressed to HolyGround13.

Just to pull you up right here @HolyGround13 , you don't seem to have any medical or even working knowledge of intersex people at all. Not even the basics. NO HUMAN BEING is ever born with "both" male and female chromosomes. They are born with EITHER male OR female chromosomes. Not both. The fact that a blood test will determine what sex intersex people are, proves this.

Oh ffs! How is there so much IGNORANCE on Intersex, even today.

you don’t by definition fit into either category of male or female

WRONG. Wrong, Wrong, WRONG. Intersex just have genitals that don't match their chromosomes. BUT, they DO fit into either male or female. A blood test will tell which. Intersex people are not both or neither. They are still EITHER male, OR female.

This is 2024. How are people still this devastatingly ignorant and ill-informed on Intersex/DSDs?

The posters in denial still won't point out where all the women dressed up as male transvestites were in the opening ceremony. These men wouldn't dare let women mock & ridicule them which is why we were only subjected to the males larking as females.

I'm surprised your kids didn't take themselves off to bed after the first three minutes. This one was boring as fuck!

They wanted to see who the masked parkour person was which was never unveiled 🤣
Thankfully they found the transvestites & Smurf guy hilarious. DH & I explained they were not to be taken seriously. Happy to say I have GC children who will never accept males moonlighting as females!

Happy to say I have GC children who will never accept males moonlighting as females!
How proud you are of your narrow-minded view and how you have facilitated this across generations
You should be ashamed

Don’t have the energy to argue all the finer points. Brought up the rapist because I think he deserves our attention and there was an implication the drag artists were being inappropriate as there was a child onstage.

I have known intersex people who explicitly said they felt outside the sex binary. I realise they don’t speak for all intersex people! But I’m trying to listen to people with lived experience.

People can have whatever opinions they want, but I’ve only tried to engage people positively on this thread and some posters are so filled with rage and bile. OP has been open to discussions. This whole thing has left me feeling pretty low, honestly. I can see how activists end up advocating for no platforming, which I think is largely counterproductive, out of sheer exhaustion. I have tried to “correct the internet” before, and that way madness lies.

Ah no! My daughters will never accept males infiltrating their girls only spaces & sports. Many young children can actually spot the emperor you know & will not accept it. My children know there are two sexes & this will never change regardless of how many men try to claim they are female. I am very proud to be raising GC children rather than sheep who are told what to think under the guise of "be kind" & "no debate"!

It concerns me that your job has you dealing with child safeguarding, yet you are ever so deeply ill-informed on what intersex and DSD is.

there is biology outside a gender binary

Gender isn't real. It's a man-made misogynistic social construct that relies on stereotypes. Only sex is real. Sex is immutable and it's binary. And actually, even setting aside the physical external differences - with chormosomal abnormalities, intersex or as is more favourable a term now - DSD (Differences of Sexual Development), prove and reinforce the binary nature of sex, as this graph below on DSD chromosomal abnormalities by a Biologist shows.

I also worry for trans people and the rates of violence and suicide in their community.

Trans people (particularly transwomen) have far more power and privilege than everyone else, especially women and girls. Statistical evidence shows they are the safest group out, and have the lowest level of violence, and that there suicide rates - despite suicide being pushed very heavily as a weapon to get parents to trans their children, are no higher than any other group. Unfortunately though if one don't push past all the hyperbole about trans and actually look for facts and evidence, one wouldn't be aware of this, as Suicide Ideation is pushed very heavily.

Trans people aren’t trying to hurt you.

Some aren't, that's true. There are some good, decent, grounded trans people that are aware of the reality of their situation. However, too many of them or the activists, go around threatening women with rape, with wire-covered baseball bats, with being knived and bashed, even burned to death (a plot to burn down a building with women meeting inside for a Let Women Speak rally was exposed on twitter, with police then being tagged in). At no stage in history have women been more at risk of violence and abuse. Just for speaking out about our basic human rights and needs.

and pee in peace

If all they want is to pee in peace (which is what WOMEN AND GIRLS WANT, too), they can pee in peace in their sex-based facilities that match their sex. It really is that simple.

She should be ashamed that she has children that defend womens basic fucking human rights, @TheRakesTale ?!?? No, misogynist narrow-minded bigots with hateful anti-women attitudes like yours, @TheRakesTale , are the ones who should be ashamed! What happened to you to make you hate women so much, and not even think we are human deserving of fairness and human rights?

It's obviously not a stretch at all, @JohnSt1 , since a massive, massive amount of people world-wide, even the majority, saw it as such. The intent was obvious. Saying it was Dionysus, now, seems to much like hasty post re-writing because of the flack they rightfully got. It's just an excuse. And so many when told "oh, the blue figure is really the Greek God Dionysus" are saying "bullshit!" on social media. They're not buying it. And even if - big massive if - it were, surely someone must have known how it would look?

Nah. I, like most on social media, don't buy this attempt and face-saving by the organisers.

*HE

It's a male with cock and balls.

Not a she.

I have known intersex people who explicitly said they felt outside the sex binary.

That's not the same as the sex binary not existing. People can feel a lot of things.

@Ereshkigalangcleg feeling & biological reality are two different things🤣
I feel 25 most of the time but the biologal reality is I'm 45, nothing will change that no matter what I say or do to convince people otherwise. Thankfully I'm not dilussional.

I fully agree that trans gender (if I have got the right term and I apologize if not) people should not compete in sports as their new sex. This is nothing to do with being anti-anything (which I am not), it is because a female who was born male has an unfair physical advantage. Whatever the most ardent feminist may say, pound for pound men are stronger than women and a sex change isn't going to change that. Particularly in a sport such as boxing it is likely that the sex-change athlete will have a longer reach and more powerful punch. Similarly in athletics men's times are faster than women's.

Instead of guidelines the IOC should have definite rules regarding anything of this sort. At the moment it is the decision of the individual sport's governing body.

Maybe there could be categories in the paralympics instead where people would compete against each other on a level playing field.

As for the child rapist there should be a limit on the amount of inclusiveness allowed in major (or minor) sporting events. Some people are given life bans for much less such as taking performance enhancing drugs where the only person affected is themselves. Cricketers have been given longer bans for ball-tampering than this man spent in prison for rape.

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My sentiments exact!

They said it was Dionysus during the event. His daughter is Sequana -the goddess of the Seine. Sequana is often depicted with a diadem or a crown. It wasn't mocking Christianity.

It fucking was mocking Christianity. They may have included Dionysus, but they represented him with attributes specific to the Roman version, Bacchus. While at the same time the supposed "Bacchanalia" was a clear mirror of Da Vinci's Last Supper. Only the wilfully ignorant or those lacking in knowledge of basic European art culture could deny it because it is clear as fucking day. And attempting to ridicule and gaslight those who see it (ie, almost everyone) will backfire enormously.

I can guarantee you that there are, for obvious example, people in the US who were on the fence about who to vote for that will tip to Trump because of this bullshit. This exact type of cultural shit led to fascism a century ago and if we don't cop the fuck on we'll go straight down the same road over the next couple of decades. (Not that I'm suggesting Trump is fascistic. But this shit will take us there if it doesn't stop.)