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Maddy70 · 26/07/2024 13:23

Peaceful protecting should not be illegal

The French wouldnt stand for .it Neither would the Spanish

Outrageous that the uk who prides itself (or did!) On free speach and democracy has made protesting illegal

CarrieHain · 26/07/2024 13:24

Rfthyhuj · 26/07/2024 13:07

Thank you. I read the judge said ‘if this had went ahead I’d have imposed the maximum sentence’ so I’m a bit confused.

I'm sure a judge would use English as we know it! 😆

Inastatus · 26/07/2024 13:30

Anewuser · 26/07/2024 11:21

It was her brother’s speech that was even worse.

The hypocrisy that she would have flown to be at his wedding.

Please could someone of the 15% give their opinion because I was sure this would be 100% agreeing with OP.

@Anewuser - OMG, she was going to fly to the wedding!!

The entitlement in that family is unreal!

whynotwhatknot · 26/07/2024 13:32

tone deaf and shwas flying to the wedding so also a hyporite

CautiousLurker · 26/07/2024 13:32

Rfthyhuj · 26/07/2024 13:07

It’s her brother’s wedding though, not hers.

So? If she is neither the bride nor groom, it’s hard lines. Am sure they all appreciate her sacrifice in the name of the cause…

Convicted criminals miss weddings, graduations, births/death and christenings all the time. It’s kind of the point of imprisonment - withholding of the normal every days rights and privileges conferred within a democratic society in exchange for observing its laws and protections.

DoIWantTo · 26/07/2024 13:33

I think the people that have been held up from getting to school, work, the hospital, their family members almost dying in the back of ambulances being prevented from moving will be exceptionally happy they’re getting a taste of their own medicine. I’ll certainly not shed a tear, self important gits the lot of them.

MrsSunshine2b · 26/07/2024 13:34

A bit of disruption on the M25 will pale in comparison to the disruption climate change will cause in the coming years.

Not that I think JSO is going to make any difference, but they're doing what they think to be necessary to try and draw attention to the issue. I'm not saying they shouldn't face the consequences of breaking the law though.

On a side not, does anyone else think that vegans are onto a loser trying to convince us it's a healthy diet when they all look as though they've been re-animated from a mortuary slab?

GiveMeSpanakopita · 26/07/2024 13:35

noblegiraffe · 26/07/2024 12:24

Remember that woman who avoided going to jail for stabbing her boyfriend because she was 'too bright for prison' as she was at Oxford?

There's certainly a precedent for letting bright white girls get away with crime so I can see why the mother might be confused as to why it doesn't apply here.

Now I would normally overlook the usual lazy racialising of crime issues but today in the name of poor Falaq Barbar I say to you: SUHAIL MOHAMMED

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13669619/Grown-brother-23-texted-girlfriend-saying-punched-killed-11-year-old-half-sister-stays-silent-inquest.html

Brother, 23, texted girlfriend he 'killed' his 11-year-old sister

Suhail Mohammed, 23, refused to be quizzed on the apparent admissions, as it emerged he will not face prosecution over the death of Falaq Babar from a bleed on the brain.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13669619/Grown-brother-23-texted-girlfriend-saying-punched-killed-11-year-old-half-sister-stays-silent-inquest.html

ComealongMartha · 26/07/2024 13:36

Excellent!

JudgeJ · 26/07/2024 13:37

TheBizzies · 26/07/2024 11:16

Oh the irony

Cressida dearest, arrange the words 'shit' and 'tough' into a well known phrase or saying.

MenopauseSucks · 26/07/2024 13:37

Being silly here so don't flame me...

How about we blockade the church or venue where the wedding is being held?

I'm sure both families & their guests will understand that they are unable to reach the ceremony due to our peaceful protest.

Toottooot · 26/07/2024 13:39

Wooptie fucking ping. Didnae care aboot fit other folk were missing during her protest did she?

Zone2NorthLondon · 26/07/2024 13:41

She wilfully impeded people with travel commitments, hospital appts,jobs,interviews,weddings to attend and now there is whining oh no! She’ll miss her brother wedding

the words tough and titty come to mind.

entitled horah

Inastatus · 26/07/2024 13:43

ThreeFeetTall · 26/07/2024 12:14

But it's her mum? Of course prisoners families are upset about them missing family events- I'm sure that applies to all prisoners? She's not responsible for her adult daughters actions

No she’s not responsible for her daughter’s actions but she appears to be fully supportive of them and states how very proud her and Daddy are of her. There is no acknowledgement of the chaos and upset caused to 1000’s of people it’s just all about poor darling Cressie who they apparently brought up to know right from wrong 🙄

WallaceinAnderland · 26/07/2024 13:46

Can see now how she turned out to be such a selfish spoiled brat. She was never taught that actions have consequences. Cry me a river.

LuckySantangelo35 · 26/07/2024 13:46

Diddums

BeavisMcTavish · 26/07/2024 13:47

She should have got a longer sentence to send a clear message. People undoubtedly died and undoubted missed countless life events because of her selfishness.

stupid bint won’t learn her lesson though and will be out in no time.

scalt · 26/07/2024 13:48

You can read the sentencing remarks here. Rex -v- Hallam and others - sentencing remarks.pdf (judiciary.uk)

Is what they did "peaceful" protesting? I don't call causing massive disruption to hundreds of thousands of people trying to earn their living "peaceful". A demonstration with a few planned road closures in central London is a "peaceful" protest, and I myself have taken part in various such marches, but I would not dream of disrupting the lives of hundreds of thousands of people trying to earn their living. That is not "peaceful" as far as I am concerned. Remember the Fathers for Justice "heroes" who dressed as Spiderman and tied themselves to cranes, and threw powder into the House of Commons; were they protesting "peacefully"? Or is their cause less sympathetic on Mumsnet?

Incidentally, Phoebe Plummer (the pink-haired tomato soup thrower) and her mate have only yesterday been found guilty of criminal damage, and will be sentenced in late September. They have been told to expect prison.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/R-v-Hallam-and-others.pdf

LuckySantangelo35 · 26/07/2024 13:49

Looking at the picture of her parents house she’s gonna find prison a bit of a shock

Couldyounot · 26/07/2024 13:50

Perhaps they should have considered all this before going criming, really

Easipeelerie · 26/07/2024 13:53

Like all radicalised people, she judged that any consequences of what she did could be written off because of the larger consequences the world faces.
I have mixed feelings. I believe the custodial sentence is commensurate with what she did, and she will have been well aware of its likelihood (or should have been).
That said, it’s usually only people that are willing to be radical that effect large change,m and change is really needed here. Just because most of us don’t feel the climate emergency as strongly as she does, doesn’t mean the climate emergency doesn't exist. It does.

LBFseBrom · 26/07/2024 13:53

A four year sentence is far too harsh.

IllMetByMoonlight · 26/07/2024 13:53

Oh my days, this thread is rife with a kind of weird delighting in making shit up about someone nobody actually knows and extrapolating on details to get in a lather about.

@User8646382 for instance: "See, this is what happens when people don’t have any real worries in life. They get bored and have to invent them."

I'd argue that the climate emergency is about as real a worry as they come!? It is unfolding, in real time, in real places, to real people, as we speak and the real privilege is being able to ‐for now‐ not give a shit and carry on, business as usual, as many posters on the JSO related threads of the last few days. We, through no merit other than the luck of our birth, live in one of the places on the planet where the changes in the climate are yet to be experienced fully. Bully for us. Some, like Cressida, are able to hold hard and uncomfortable truths about how the lifestyle choices of citizens of Western growth economies impact the lives of those in other parts of the world whose carbon impact is negligible, and attempt to effect change.

Ditto lots of chat in the "her posh mates", "privately educated" inverted snobbery vein. What is wrong with people, when we're more irritated by a 22-year old making a life-changing decision and facing the consequences thereof, than the fact that the climate is changing with irrevocable impact on the natural world and all the beings who depend on it, and that fossil fuel giants are continuing to rake it in and dangerously and cynically impact government policy for their own gain, gambling with our children's futures. That's the real class (and race) issue to unpick, not Cressida's Herefordshire upbringing. Who's the bigger crook?

Zone2NorthLondon · 26/07/2024 13:54

prison is a punitive punishment eg removal of liberty and detention that forces you to miss significant life events. Life events like weddings, graduation, significant appointments,reunions…in fact all the commitments and events she and her co-accused prevented people from attending

Easipeelerie · 26/07/2024 13:55

When will she actually be out?

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