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SoreAndTired1 · 26/07/2024 14:36

LBFseBrom · 26/07/2024 13:53

A four year sentence is far too harsh.

@LBFseBrom Bull fucking shit!!! 😡It's far too light! It should be 15 years - minimum. They caused the DEATHS of at least 3 people! for those who feel sorry for these hateful, malignant little germs; Her group caused the death of a stroke victim (strokes is a particular situation where every minute counts) in an ambulance that was blocked! She/they should have been charged with murder! Or at the very least, manslaughter!!

Also someone fighting an aggressive form of cancer missed their appointment at a cancer clinic and had to wait two months for another appointment. That was as good as they were able to get for another appointment.

These people are murderers basically. Maggots. How would YOU feel, if it were your mother who died in that ambulance? Or YOUR mother or daughter or sister who had an aggressive form of cancer, stopped them from attending an important appointment, and then had to wait a further TWO....MONTHS for a new one? Because some middle class to upper class rich and bored ill brought up spoiled brat (and almost all of them are rich or at least middle class, the Cressida creature's father is a director of operas around the UK and she went to an elite private school) blocked your ambulance or cancer transport? Huh? How would you feel? What if it was your daughter who missed her chemo appointment?

I also read the blockade caused two cars to collide, one man had a heart attack in the blockade, and a mother needing to get her sick child to hospital begged and pleaded to be let through. They refused. The leader of this group proudly said he would refuse an ambulance to go through and "feel no guilt". As the daughter of someone who has MS and has a serious lung disease and has had to have CPR in the back of an ambulance and has been clinically dead 3 times, and as someone who is facing breast cancer treatment myself, I don't care how angry or violent I come across on this; these scum either need a bullet to the head or kept isolated from society permanently. She and this group are basically murderers! 4 years for this is not enough! Imo it should be a minimum of 15 years. And murder and manslaughter charges. FFS, 4 years is outrageously pitiful. The (LETHAL) flow on effects from their stunt should at least have them up on manslaughter charges. At the very least.

And Cressida's trashy mother who didn't do her job as a mother and raise her properly, is now whingeing that her daughter will miss her brothers wedding! Oh boo fucking hoo! As the below showed, many others missed funerals due to her stunt, a man missed his father's funeral and said he'd never forgive the group. Others missed weddings. Many are saying they should find the date and address and details of the wedding and stage an impromptu 'Just Stop Oil' blockade near the brother's wedding facility. I bet her family would be screaming if they couldn't make her brother's wedding!

That people feel sorry for these lifeforms from the sewer is maddening. That people actually believe any of them care about the environment, shows how gullible people are. These shallow narcissistic sociopaths don't even actually care about the environment, they never did, that's a cover; they are simply bored little rich kids who can't graffiti or anything lower class like that, so this is how they destroy and damage society without making daddy look too bad. And being part of something, being part of anything, is important to these kids. They don't particularly care what it is. These maggots have no use or worth to society. Removing them and isolating them permanently from civilised society is the safest thing for innocent civilised society and for the environment. Sentencing impact remarks:

Cressida Gething missing bro's wedding
Kai125 · 26/07/2024 14:37

I watched the mum's statement with my jaw on the floor.

What a fucking entitled piece of work.

Miss her brother's wedding? Good god, she didn't give a fuck about what other people missed did she?

And if it's true about the destination wedding I'm even more blown away!

And if the wedding is in this country and do hope that people make a peaceful protest that day too on the route to the wedding. In fact I'd really want to join them!!

What is wrong with these people?

I am not a fan of Katie Hopkins but her parody of the mum is spot on. It saw it on TikTok after watching the mum's statement.

IllMetByMoonlight · 26/07/2024 14:38

betterangels · 26/07/2024 14:17

She thought she'd get away with it. How sad.

Never mind.

She definitely did not think she would "get away" with anything. What a strange thing to suggest. She had previous experience of direct action so would have been fully aware of the likely impact of her decision, including arrest and a custodial sentence. These activists are not like little kids who kick a ball through a window pane and run away, hoping not to get caught. Getting caught, and facing the consequences, is an inevitable consequence of conscientious action like this.

We too have alarming consequences to face as a result of our over-reliance on fossil fuels. Let's hope we can accept them with unflinching stoicism, seeing as we're busy castigating those who would seek to avert harm now.

Comefromaway · 26/07/2024 14:39

Ironically my daughter who at the time was earning just above minimum wage but less than London living wage once had to travel to work by car paying the hefty congestion charge because Just Stop Oil were disrupting the public transport she usually travelled by.

ClickClack300 · 26/07/2024 14:39

I knew I was right as soon as the mother spoke…

I’ve just ‘googled’ her, Cambridge educated (no doubt went to a private school!) and lives in mansion.

Honestly, this boils my piss, she wouldn’t have time to carry on like that if she was poor and was on the NMW!

SoreAndTired1 · 26/07/2024 14:39

IllMetByMoonlight · 26/07/2024 13:53

Oh my days, this thread is rife with a kind of weird delighting in making shit up about someone nobody actually knows and extrapolating on details to get in a lather about.

@User8646382 for instance: "See, this is what happens when people don’t have any real worries in life. They get bored and have to invent them."

I'd argue that the climate emergency is about as real a worry as they come!? It is unfolding, in real time, in real places, to real people, as we speak and the real privilege is being able to ‐for now‐ not give a shit and carry on, business as usual, as many posters on the JSO related threads of the last few days. We, through no merit other than the luck of our birth, live in one of the places on the planet where the changes in the climate are yet to be experienced fully. Bully for us. Some, like Cressida, are able to hold hard and uncomfortable truths about how the lifestyle choices of citizens of Western growth economies impact the lives of those in other parts of the world whose carbon impact is negligible, and attempt to effect change.

Ditto lots of chat in the "her posh mates", "privately educated" inverted snobbery vein. What is wrong with people, when we're more irritated by a 22-year old making a life-changing decision and facing the consequences thereof, than the fact that the climate is changing with irrevocable impact on the natural world and all the beings who depend on it, and that fossil fuel giants are continuing to rake it in and dangerously and cynically impact government policy for their own gain, gambling with our children's futures. That's the real class (and race) issue to unpick, not Cressida's Herefordshire upbringing. Who's the bigger crook?

Edited

If you really think this rich privileged brat actually cares about the environment, I have a bridge to sell you in London. 150 pounds ONO.

She doesn't give a flying (apt pun, considering the germ was going to use a fossil fuelled plane to travel to her brother's wedding) fuck about the environment. None of them do. If you think they do, I no idea what to say to you.

magicmole · 26/07/2024 14:40

KreedKafer · 26/07/2024 11:23

I think four years was a very harsh sentence. I think prison was the right sentence but I don't think four years is especially proportionate.

However, she would have been aware at the time that she was committing an offence that could result in a lengthy sentence, so that was a risk she chose to take. And I couldn't give even the tiniest of shits that she's going to miss her brother's wedding. She made her bed and she can lie in it.

I care a lot about the environment and I have sympathy with the actual cause that organisations like JSO and Extinction Rebellion are fighting for. But I think they're probably doing more harm than good with their particular tactics at times - when they do things like this, they actually distract people from the core message.

The judge pointed out that last year the Court of Appeal looked at the sentencing of such cases both in the UK and across Europe and confirmed what would be considered proportionate and what would be excessive. We might think it's harsh but based on their review the sentences aren't disproportionate.

If a journalist hadn't passed their plans to the police and everything that they were planning had actually come about, there could have been gridlock on 10 motorways and disruption at 4 airports. The judge said that this would have had knock-on effects for food supplies in London and the South East and the sentences would have been closer to the statutory maximum of 10 years imprisonment! 😬

ZoeCM · 26/07/2024 14:40

If it's true that the wedding's taking place abroad, presumably Cressida would have been horrified and refused to attend on principle, anyway? So nothing's been lost.

Her mother made some bizarre comment about "wanting to bring Cressida to life for those of you who weren't in the courtroom". It was the sort of thing someone would normally say about a murder victim, not someone who'd just been convicted of harming people.

CassieMaddox · 26/07/2024 14:42

Kai125 · 26/07/2024 14:37

I watched the mum's statement with my jaw on the floor.

What a fucking entitled piece of work.

Miss her brother's wedding? Good god, she didn't give a fuck about what other people missed did she?

And if it's true about the destination wedding I'm even more blown away!

And if the wedding is in this country and do hope that people make a peaceful protest that day too on the route to the wedding. In fact I'd really want to join them!!

What is wrong with these people?

I am not a fan of Katie Hopkins but her parody of the mum is spot on. It saw it on TikTok after watching the mum's statement.

Good grief.
I thought KH had sunk into obscurity.

Gruttenberg · 26/07/2024 14:42

LBFseBrom · 26/07/2024 13:53

A four year sentence is far too harsh.

Oh no it's not, and we're all fully aware a four year sentence isn't four years served. She'll be out in 2 years max, probably a lot sooner. I'd have preferred it to be an eight year sentence so she could sit in her cell and think about what she'd done.

MenopauseSucks · 26/07/2024 14:42

@JudgeJ

If the bridal party eventually accesses the venue & the marriage takes place, we can use orange paint on the blushing couple instead of confetti!

(In all honesty, now we know of the forthcoming not-to-be-missed nuptials, if I were Cressida's sister-in-law-to-be I would be shitting myself that people would be turning up to 'peacefully protest')

SoreAndTired1 · 26/07/2024 14:43

Paterson8080 · 26/07/2024 14:03

What a bunch of horrible right wingers you are. She is 22 and she is going to prison for 4 years for carrying out a peaceful protest.

CAUSING DEATHS is not 'peaceful protest' ffs! I hope your post was sarcasm! In the fucked up world we live in today, no one can tell.

YummyPotatoBun · 26/07/2024 14:43

Self-centred and entitled family. Wondering how Cressida's future SIL feels about her wedding being politicised?

Cressida's private education failed her, as did her indulge parents.

Sad.

Lowerechelons · 26/07/2024 14:43

Does no one else feel the fact that a young woman has gone to prison for 4 years, and her mother's biggest concern is that she'll miss her brother's wedding is somewhat telling?

Not Cressida's own missed life?

I realise no one here cares about her life, but it just seems so symptomatic of a world where no matter what women do, their impact on the men in their life is what matters.

SpudleyLass · 26/07/2024 14:44

Destination wedding?

Mother lives in a mansion which presumably needs more to heat?

Hypocrisy, thy name is Gethin!

betterangels · 26/07/2024 14:44

IllMetByMoonlight · 26/07/2024 14:38

She definitely did not think she would "get away" with anything. What a strange thing to suggest. She had previous experience of direct action so would have been fully aware of the likely impact of her decision, including arrest and a custodial sentence. These activists are not like little kids who kick a ball through a window pane and run away, hoping not to get caught. Getting caught, and facing the consequences, is an inevitable consequence of conscientious action like this.

We too have alarming consequences to face as a result of our over-reliance on fossil fuels. Let's hope we can accept them with unflinching stoicism, seeing as we're busy castigating those who would seek to avert harm now.

I doubt she thought she was going to prison. Especially since her mum is bleating on about missing a wedding. People died. My sympathy is with their families.

The sentence was too light, and she'll probably not even serve it in full.

Mrsjayy · 26/07/2024 14:46

CassieMaddox · 26/07/2024 14:42

Good grief.
I thought KH had sunk into obscurity.

Oh no she's on the Internet drinking wine and talking her usual crap.

SoreAndTired1 · 26/07/2024 14:47

SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 26/07/2024 14:11

But it's more than rich that we're supposed to care about her missing her brother's wedding. What about all the people who missed important events because of her actions?

One man missed his father's funeral another a cancer appointment which couldn't be rescheduled for a few moths affecting their outcome.

However this is her Mum - who broke no laws and is probably devastated her child is now in prison and will have to face implications of that - first of which is missing her brother's wedding. It does come across as tone deaf though.

Edited

The mother failed in her duty as a mother, and raised her as a spoilt brat. And that's where we are now. The apple didn't fall far from the tree with her as a mother. The mother is as bad - if not worse - than the daughter.

Oldfatandfrumpy · 26/07/2024 14:48

To be honest her family bleating on about the unfairness of her missing her brothers destination wedding(!) just make me think they are entitled hypocritical privileged idiots

They are not helping her cause

IllMetByMoonlight · 26/07/2024 14:50

Thank you for the link.

I'm confused now: her mum doesn't sound like she's moaning or complaining at all ‐!? She comes across as pragmatically accepting her daughter's fate, not making any excuses nor pleading lighter sentencing.

Oh wait, the press love to stir things like this, don't they.

macaroniandcheeze · 26/07/2024 14:53

Zone2NorthLondon · 26/07/2024 14:36

Nailed it. Excellent post
Those by this disproportionately impacted by this are poorest
Unsalaried workers who if the don’t work don’t get paid, those who have no alternative to missed health appointments

Do you really think that JSO are wholly responsible for this, rather than the government and society that causes these sorts of lives in the first place??

Hoppinggreen · 26/07/2024 14:53

Well guess what Cressida - actions have consequences!!!

macaroniandcheeze · 26/07/2024 14:55

The rich and powerful love a distraction or a scapegoat don’t they.

Oil companies are rubbing their hands together with glee right now, so easy is it to pit the public against itself.

Kai125 · 26/07/2024 14:57

I also wonder why Louise Lancaster's husband isn't getting the (deserved) vitriol too?

He made a similar statement about her missing her daughter's wedding. (Boo hoo)

He reads out her statement and she is "proud to be part of it" no apologies for the people who missed life saving treatment or missed funerals.

vm.tiktok.com/ZGeWUm9CJ/

Selfish evil people.

Comefromaway · 26/07/2024 14:58

IllMetByMoonlight · 26/07/2024 14:50

Thank you for the link.

I'm confused now: her mum doesn't sound like she's moaning or complaining at all ‐!? She comes across as pragmatically accepting her daughter's fate, not making any excuses nor pleading lighter sentencing.

Oh wait, the press love to stir things like this, don't they.

It was set up by, filmed by and put on Just Stop Oil's Social Media I quote her "we have been told that justice has been done today but it doesn't look like that to us...... our politicians, our media and yes, our energy companies should be shocked and deeply embarrassed how the court has dispensed its version of justice today"