Perhaps women aren't cut out to be on the front line?

[andsisters]

Footage of the female officers at the attempted assassination of Trump, and of the scenes at Manchester Airport makes me think that perhaps we're not best suited in those situations.

Would those four violent men have dared attack male officers in the same way?

By all means the security was a success surely since he came away with a tiny graze from an attempted assassination.
The larger fault lies with intelligence gathering before and on the day.

There was another thread about this a bit ago - maybe check that one out @andsisters

Shocking that you seem to think that a member of a highly skilled profession should go round behaving like a common thug or a secondary school pupil who gets revenge on someone for beating up his mate.“That’s what men do” is it? His “duty to protect his colleague”? You mean his peer and equal who just so happens to have a vagina and probably didn’t ask for him to commit GBH in her honour? What if his male colleague was assaulted? Is it also fine to go and stamp on someone’s head then or is it only female colleagues that these “men” so instinctively protect? If you can’t control your temper, do not join the police force, end of. And it doesn’t make you look big and hard when you go for someone who is literally incapacitated. Funny that he wasn’t brave enough to protect anyone when the guy was standing up.

@User135644 You can't react like that, but men, at least biologically/traditionally, have a protector instinct when it comes to women, at least with friends/colleagues and family.

Given the fact that most women and girls have experienced physical or sexual assault, and the majority of those cases are at the hands of someone close to them it would appear your claim is absolute bullshit in the majority of cases.

@VolvoFan That's what men do.

Boys will be boys.
Men will be men.

Fucking hell I hope you don’t raise children. Society really needs purged of these attitudes.

If it's an operational requirement that a role needs someone who us 6ft tall then that's fine - you can make that a requirement. Some women are 6ft tall and will meet that requirement. If a shorter woman isn't given the role it's because she's too short, not because she's a woman. But you'd better not then employ someone built like sylvester stallone (5'10") or bruce lee (5'7") or daniel craig (5'10") whose on-screen portrayals show someone more than adequately able to handle themselves.
Unless they are going to stop a bullet using their willy then the willy isn't needed.

It's true that the average man is stronger and faster than the average woman. But women in the top quartile of performance in strength and speed among women are stronger and faster than the average man. Saying that a job is open to women doesn't mean any woman can do it - they still have to prove themselves capable and if necessary the criteria can be things that are rarer and more difficult to achieve for women compared to men. But a woman who can meet the criteria is just as qualified as a man who can meet the criteria.

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The victim assaulted the officers. I guess next time they should just walk away and let them do what they're going to do. I hear this whole thing started after an officer asked someone to remove a head covering to search them. They didn't cooperate and punched the officer to the floor.

The police shouldn't bother anymore. Do away with the police as they can't do much of anything given how easy riots can start now. There's no point.

And I'm one of them. Thanks, sister.🙄

Not really up to you what I do, is it? And I'm currently pregnant with my first baby after years of trying and failed fertility treatments. Thanks a fucking lot.

Is there no middle ground between doing nothing and stamping on someone's head?

It depends where you hit people and how. Not brute strength, knowledge.

Err no they should de-escalate the situation and arrest anyone who assaults anyone. There is no justification for kicking someone in the head who is no longer any threat to you. That’s not what police officers or the vast majority of men do. It’s pretty damm disturbing behaviour.
I can’t comment on the violent assault against the officers because I don’t believe anyone has been charged with it. There is also no footage that shows anyone beating the police as is alleged, despite this taking place in a crowded place and there being multiple videos. It’s also possible to have your nose broken from someone eg elbowing you in the face while resisting. It doesn’t mean that the guy on the floor punched the woman in the face and lots of people on social media are speculating and showing pictures of an entirely different woman taken last year.

It was a kneejerk reaction to his colleague being attacked. He'll be sacked and his name and family probably smeared for the rest of his life.

A few months to buck up your ideas then and bring your thinking into the 21st century. Especially if your baby is a girl.

Yeah and he deserves it. There’s a reason the police do extensive training. They aren’t supposed to have knee jerk reactions that involve actions that could kill or paralyse people. Most normal people would not dream of kicking someone in the head like that but the fact that he’s been trained not to and still does it shows what a violent dangerous man he is.

Well if I miscarry yet again, you needn't worry.

Perhaps a key part of your antenatal research could be looking into what year your child will be born and how ridiculous never mind dangerous attitudes like, welp men beat people up what’re ya gonna do? are to men and women.

Is the OP a man?

The militaries of the following countries allow women to serve in combat on the frontline:

Australia, Canada, Denmark, Eritrea, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Republic of Ireland, Israel, Lithuania, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, North Korea, Poland, Romania, Singapore, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the US.

Take Israel as an example - Caracal Battalion is a female led unit which is 70% women to 30% men. They also have the first tank unit where the crew is 100% female. Caracal normally patrol the border between Israel and Egypt dealing with various threats from terrorism to smugglers, etc.

On 7th October 2023, Caracal Battalion killed 100 Hamas terrorists.

In December 2023, Caracal was called to go in on a special operation. These are highly dangerous military operations.

Caracal Battalion uses the American made M4 Carbine rifle which is a very accurate weapon. That weapon is still used by combat units in the Israel Defence Force whilst all other units have transitioned to the IWI Tavor.

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-769134

More recently, in the United States Airforce, a female pilot just became the first to achieve something.

First American female pilot to engage and kill in an air-to-air contact.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/22/middleeast/us-navy-first-air-to-air-kill-female-fighter-pilot-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

Male or female - they joined the armed forces, passed their selection tests and served in combat zones.

So I have nothing but respect for them all.

I read that the initial incident that the police was called out to was because another group of travellers started throwing racial slurs at some of the women in the group, and the men confronted them, which escalated into a fight. So, by your logic, the police shouldn't have confronted them because they were just defending their womenfolk? But instead (if that particular rumour is true) the police attacked the victims of racial abuse.

That might be a load of bollocks, nobody knows yet. It ultimately doesn't matter what happened beforehand - there is absolutely no excuse for police to use pepper spray, tasers, punches, kicks and headlocks on suspects who are either already restrained, or being compliant.

They're allowed to feel angry if a colleague's been hurt, but they're absolutely not allowed to act on that anger, and start whaling on people who aren't presenting a threat (and in at least one case, can't physically fight back).

What females can't kick and stamp on people's heads? Female security guards are known at night clubs to defuse the situation.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/24/female-army-recruits-failed-exercise-political-correctness/

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For all those that disagree with the OP, i'm still awaiting to see how many of them think there should be no mixed male and female sports, especially boxing ect. if so why is it any different.

After all they are all equally as good and capable.

OK, an article about the British Army there.

But it DOESN'T address a single thing I actually said, especially about the Caracal Battalion and the USAF pilot both of whom are actively serving in combat recently.

With confirmed kills as well. 🤷‍♂️