Perhaps women aren't cut out to be on the front line?

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Footage of the female officers at the attempted assassination of Trump, and of the scenes at Manchester Airport makes me think that perhaps we're not best suited in those situations.

Would those four violent men have dared attack male officers in the same way?

Women can be on the frontline, just not in high-risk professions like policing and security, in my opinion

Well it’s lucky that your opinion counts for shit then seeing as women make up over a third of the police force.

You can't react like that, but men, at least biologically/traditionally, have a protector instinct when it comes to women, at least with friends/colleagues and family. Watching savages beat up on women like that, particularly ones they may have a close working relationship with, can unleash a visceral reaction. Police protect each other.

The thing is, almost all men are stronger than almost all women so presumably (apart from soft skills like negotiation etc as already discussed) we are at something of a disadvantage.

So come on then answer my this how many make up the front line of our military front line, marines, Infantry, SAS?

Also care to just answer this do you think male and female sports should be mixed? after all the frontline is no different, do you think boxing should have male and female mixed? 🤔 If not why not.

So all those women will have consented to the risk of being overpowered, beaten and having their faces smashed in by violent criminals over the course of their careers. There will be more incidents like the Manchester Airport if the police forces continue to acquiesce to things like this. That's what I'm saying.

Typing pool perhaps? Secretarial?
Jeez, this thread!

Yeah many men also seem to have a biological/traditional instinct to beat up women they are in relationships with rather than protecting them. So it might be that they just like violence. Also if you cannot control your reactions to the extent that you stamp on someone’s head when they are on the ground, you seriously do not belong in that job.

Not at a disadvantage intellectually, in terms of resilience, mental stability, stamina, communication skills, ability to use weapons/tools/data, ability to absorb training, transfer skills, command respect, leadership, comradeship.

Are these soft skills?

Dion't you worry your pretty little head about things like that. Now run along dear and make the big, strong policemen a cup of tea.🙄

So to be clear you’re saying that the Manchester Airport incident happened because there are female police officers? Not because ALL the police officers present seemed to be completely incompetent, going round spraying, kicking and shoving people who didn’t seem to be attacking them? There are tens of thousands of female police officers who do their jobs daily without any issues at all. And by “acquiesce to things like this” you mean to employ women?

True. The female police officers in the video are not acting unprofessionally as far as I can make out. Apart from the one trying to take the phones away from witnesses perhaps. Perhaps a more senior policewoman might have some control over those macho men?

Yes Trump did himself no favours at all.
However, if you look at the footage before the fist pump, he was clearly exposed where the female agent was positioned. (Very lucky there wasn’t a second shooter).

Though I guess if there was a 6ft 3 female agent, it would be a moot point.

Policing isn’t about having fist fights with suspects. There will also be plenty of suspects who are much physically stronger than many male police officers. There are techniques to overpower them and very often female officers manage to. Sometimes they are attacked but then again sometimes so are male officers.
Do you have these concerns about nursing where predominantly female staff often have to lift patients or deal with angry, drunk or violent patients (often the very same people the police deal with)? Or is it only in policing that women are too weak to do the job?

"And by “acquiesce to things like this” you mean to employ women?"

I mean continue to take the blame for the way the situation was handled. The officer that lashed out and kicked someone in the head has been suspended, the entire force has been branded racist and the Muslim communities in Manchester are demanding their brothers' release and have threatened to riot like what happened in Leeds recently.

GMP will absolutely apologise, sack the officer who lashed out and put all their officers through even more training. People won't rest until all that happens.

There’s plenty of men who aren’t 6ft 3 too.

Ive been nose to nose with very aggressive men threatening to bite my male colleagues' noses off, etc etc with no issue, de escalated the situation and was the only one able to deal with him. The two times ive been assaulted were by drunk women old enough to be my mother.

Errr how can they NOT sack him when he is on film kicking a man who is subdued, not advancing and lying prone on the ground in the head and then stamping on him? In what warped universe is that acceptable policing to you? I don’t know about racism but that video is a total embarrassment to the GMP.

By the way is there any footage of the three men beating the officers because I haven’t seen any and lots of people were filming? And people are trying to pass off pictures from a newspaper article last year as being of the female officer who apparently suffered a broken nose.

Yup, support staff in schools as well. That should be a male job.

Personally, I would feel a lot safer living in London if there were more female met police officers, not less!

Fewer police in general would be good and make most of them women please 🙏

Why would fewer police be good?

He was reacting to his female colleague getting her face smashed in. It was a violent kick to the head, yes, but it got the message across that attacking his colleague was not ever going to be tolerated again. That's what men do. If he'd held back and not done what he did, he will have felt like he failed in his duty to protect his colleague. But the force won't see it that way. The writing is on the wall for him, so I'd just quit right now if I were him.

And if you were trapped in same burning building and that big burly fireman couldn't get through the debris but a smaller female firefighter could. Would you change your mind then? Any team should be using each others strengths to get the end result.

Where do you get your ideas from?

Professionals don't react like that, the victim's lawyer has said he has a cyst on the brain. You can permanently disable or kill someone by kicking them in the head

The victim was not a threat and was lying defenceless in the ground. He was attacked maliciously in a fit if temper. He's a public servant not a law unto himself and is being paid to do a job.

That isn't what men do at all. The majority of men don't run around stamping on people's heads at work.